2Rodies

I was at my LBS, 360 Cyclesport (great shop BTW), and they have just built up a TIME VXRS and minus pedals they have got it down to 13.6#. They are waiting for the new LOOK Keo pedals, the ti version is only 95g per pedal! This thing is still waiting to be sized so most likely the seat post and fork will be cut down shaving off more grams. All of this wonderfull lightness can be had for about $9,500.00.

PeaceGrabber

UCI ruled that a road bike can NOT be weight less than 6.8Kg. That is, 15 lbs. Uh, oh. The expensive bike cannot be use in racing. What a waste.

sorebutt

so lets do some math just for fun:
a 19lb Giant with Ultegra can be gotten for for about $1100.. so, for the 5.4lb savings you pay $8,400.. this comes out to around $1,555 a pound.
I can go on a diet and lose 5.5lb in 4 weeks.. Wow! Id make a ton of money..

lucien2

Legalize his diet plan!!!

bhitour

Why you haters always hating. Remember for some people $9,500.00 is not a lot of money.

bhitour

You should go out and earn it.

2Rodies

Trust me if you lost 5.5# that Giant still wont feel like that TIME. I'm not saying I'd pay it (allthough if I had it.....) but my Orbea Orca at 15.10# would feel much better than that Giant. Besides if I lost 5.5# I'd start to look a little sick!

Feltup

I love them.

sorebutt

I know what you are saying.. My Custom Eisentraut is much a better bike then my Giant, but it is also 3 pound heavier.. so it is not all about weight.. And thats the point I was trying (my attempt at humor) to make..

daratbastid

RACING? If I had that bike it wouldnt leave the house...no no Matter of fact I would build a plexiglass box around it and hire 2 armed guards

OneTinSloth

then what the **** is the point? bikes are made to be ridden.

ericmorin

Ha! I lost 30lbs over the course of a year just commuting to work via bike.. who wants to start coughing up the money? I'll take paypal..

Rippin

How can you make a post like this and not show any pictures??...tisk, tisk...

Grendel

Not all weight reduction is equal in effect -- for example, there's a lot of difference between taking a pound off of the rider and reducing rotating mass by taking a pound off of the wheelset of the bike. I'm not trying to argue that it's worth spending thousands to rid the bike of that last pound or two, just saying that there isn't a direct correlation between weight off the rider and weight off the bike.

Hitchy

g'day,

it's largely a mute point anyway, seeing as the UCI won't legalise anything under 6.8kg for racing. The other issue is, of course they can make 'em light, but the manufacturers aren't gunna guarantee them, therefore no-ones gunna buy them. Scott had a proto type bike out last year, I think they called it the CR1 superlight that came in at 4.6kg (10.1lbs)......I bet you can't get a lifetime warranty on technology that 'pushes the envelope' that much!........

cheers,

Hitchy

sorebutt

big deal! Since 2001 I lost over 100lb... Does PayPal handle such money?

Ajay213

You can get a bike just as or almost as light for less money.


Not everybody rides UCI sanctioned events.


There are a number of manufactures who make bikes below the UCI weight limit and offer up to lifetime warranties on them.

Even the bike built to start this thread has a lifetime warranty on the frame. The frame isn't even that light, wrench science puts the weight at 2.3lbs (plus you need to add a fork).


I wish people would get a bit better grasp on this concept, a pound removed from the wheels is different than a pound off the frame, a pound off the frame is different than a pound off the rider.

Nobody is going to argue which is better in the long run, being at a "healthier" weight or having an ultra-light bike, but there are reasons why people want these bikes, and a lot of times it isn't just snob appeal.

Andrew

2Rodies

Geez I just posted this because this was a really *****en bike (yes I used the word *****en...I'm old). Yeah you could probably build a bike just as light for less $$$ but it wouldn't be much less. I believe TIME warrantee's the VXRS so that's not an issue either. The LBS didn't build this bike to race it in UCI events. It was and exersize in "how light can I get". I would love to own this thing, it's light, stiff and beautiful.

ChipRGW

I always whip this baby out when the light bike topic comes up...

Light Bike @ M2 Racer

Ajay213

Bah, that thing is heavy!

https://weightweenies.starbike.com/articles.php?ID=21

noisebeam

I think a lot of folks understand it (and also grams off the cranks/pedals provide more benefit than off of the frame for similar reasons as loosing weight from wheels is better than frame (and from tires better than hubs))

But my question for my understanding is how is weight off of frame/non moving parts different than off of body. I don't doubt it as it makes sense (i.e frame moves independenly from body, body moves to change balance, etc.) but is there more detail on this?

Al - who up until yesterday rode a 33.5lbs no shocks mt. bike

2Rodies

Here is an exaple that might help.

Take two cars with identical hp and weight. Now car A wheels weigh 100#'s while car B's weigh 75#. It takes less energy to get the wheels on car B to move. The same is with the wheels on your bike.

Yes it is true that a lighter rider generally has an advantage while climbing (fitness being equal) having to move a lighter machine is also an advantage. If you need to expend less energy to propel the wheels/cranks/pedals you have an advantage over the rider that doesn't.

breggurns

My 60 cm Orbea Altec Carbon Ultegra equiped Mavic Ksyriam Elite bike weighs 19 pound with pedals and I'm happy with it.

Hitchy

[QUOTE=Ajay213]You can get a bike just as or almost as light for less money.




Not everybody rides UCI sanctioned events.




There are a number of manufactures who make bikes below the UCI weight limit and offer up to lifetime warranties on them.

Even the bike built to start this thread has a lifetime warranty on the frame. The frame isn't even that light, wrench science puts the weight at 2.3lbs (plus you need to add a fork).




I wish people would get a bit better grasp on this concept, a pound removed from the wheels is different than a pound off the frame, a pound off the frame is different than a pound off the rider.

Nobody is going to argue which is better in the long run, being at a "healthier" weight or having an ultra-light bike, but there are reasons why people want these bikes, and a lot of times it isn't just snob appeal.


G'day,

it's easy to mix & match parts from different manufacturers & get a bike that comes under 6.8kg,.....my LBS did it with a 6-13, as an exercise in how low can they go.....this isn't the point. The problem that has made minimum weight requirements a 'mute' point is that there doesn't appear to be,(& i know that you guys will correct me if I'm wrong!), a minimum weight requirement for each component. This leads to the farcical situation of Cannondale making delivering saeco 'bikes' that are well below 6.8kg, & simply adding 'sinkers' to the frame to reach the legal limit.....If this doesn't make a farce of the rule i don't know what does!. The UCI have started 'approving' components for use in racing, but whether that means, in future, that any combination of this 'approved' components is legal, (regardless of the weight), remains to be seen. But that might be to 'clever' a solution for the UCI to cope with. You mentioned, non UCI sanctioned races?.....why would you bother, the UCI is far from perfect, but they are at least consistant & provide a framework for racing as a level playing field. Any road racing outside the UCI umbrella is likely to be 'anything goes'.....didn't they make a movie about that....Rollerball?

Hitchy

2Rodies

2.3# is light for a frame. My Orca is 2.2# and it's on the lighter side of the spectrum. There are a few frames out there that are lighter.

Hitchy please note that that weight includes the seat post as it is intergrated. Adding about 4 ounces to the weight of the frame. That would give you frame weight of only 1.15# that's light!