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Sleeping bag suggestions?
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My sleeping bag finally bit the dust after 6 years of touring/camping so looking for opinions on a new sleeping bag before my tour this year.
Looking for one around 30*F that packs pretty small.
I do have an underquilt for my hammock so one around 40*F would work as well. I don't get cold very easily.
Weight and price aren't factors really.
The smaller the better. I found a Marmot one that packs pretty small but it's rated for 55*F and not sure with my underquilt that would be warm enough.
My sleeping bag finally bit the dust after 6 years of touring/camping so looking for opinions on a new sleeping bag before my tour this year.
Looking for one around 30*F that packs pretty small.
I do have an underquilt for my hammock so one around 40*F would work as well. I don't get cold very easily.
Weight and price aren't factors really.
The smaller the better. I found a Marmot one that packs pretty small but it's rated for 55*F and not sure with my underquilt that would be warm enough.
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I thought that I didn't really care if my bag was down or not. I got a Cat's Meow by North Face----synthetic. But it just barely stuffs into a 20l dry bag. In a 20l compression bag it shrinks to about volleyball size. A down bag would be save some space as the specs on most show them to stuff quite smaller.
I would really like to try a down sleeping blanket:
Enlightened Equipment Revelation
I would really like to try a down sleeping blanket:
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I second the recommendation for down. Bought a NF Blue Kazoo in the early '70s and it has been used on multiple trips every year since then. Weighs 2 pounds total (one pound of down fill) and fits in a stuff sack 6" in diameter and 12" long. It's rated for temperatures down to 20F, but I've been comfortable sleeping on nights which went down to low single digits. Yes, you do have to keep it dry, but I haven't found that to be a problem on any of my trips over all these years and the only times it has gotten wet has been for periodic cleaning. Loft still measures almost as much as when it was new so I expect to keep using it for many more years.
Haven't looked at specific models available currently since I'm not in the market for a replacement. But I've been very happy with choice of a down-filled bag.
Haven't looked at specific models available currently since I'm not in the market for a replacement. But I've been very happy with choice of a down-filled bag.
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I bought the marmot atom for bike trips. I like it a lot. it's rated to 40 degrees.
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A marmot 25 F rated bag is in the green compression sack. It actually compresses to about the same size or smaller than our tent in the blue compression sack. It is called a "Pounder Plus and weighs less than 2 lb. Best of all, it is synthetic!
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A few more questions:
It gives you the option of a right zip or left zip? Is it just your dominant hand? Never seen this before.
What's the difference between the "bag temperature" and "EN rating?"
What's "bag loft" mean?
Haven't bought a new bag in awhile obviously!
I really like the 55*F one and wondering if I can get away with it in my underquilt. I know I'll be running into some snow and that's my only concern. Or a 45*F one.
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I thought that I didn't really care if my bag was down or not. I got a Cat's Meow by North Face----synthetic. But it just barely stuffs into a 20l dry bag. In a 20l compression bag it shrinks to about volleyball size. A down bag would be save some space as the specs on most show them to stuff quite smaller.
I would really like to try a down sleeping blanket:
Enlightened Equipment Revelation
I would really like to try a down sleeping blanket:
Enlightened Equipment Revelation
On a side note, my youngest sister said I should buy the North Face Cat's Meow for no other reason than the name
I second the recommendation for down. Bought a NF Blue Kazoo in the early '70s and it has been used on multiple trips every year since then. Weighs 2 pounds total (one pound of down fill) and fits in a stuff sack 6" in diameter and 12" long. It's rated for temperatures down to 20F, but I've been comfortable sleeping on nights which went down to low single digits. Yes, you do have to keep it dry, but I haven't found that to be a problem on any of my trips over all these years and the only times it has gotten wet has been for periodic cleaning. Loft still measures almost as much as when it was new so I expect to keep using it for many more years.
Haven't looked at specific models available currently since I'm not in the market for a replacement. But I've been very happy with choice of a down-filled bag.
Haven't looked at specific models available currently since I'm not in the market for a replacement. But I've been very happy with choice of a down-filled bag.
I have the North Face website open. Will look further tomorrow.
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If you use a hammock, the combination of top quilt and underquilt is very nice. A 30F top quilt can weigh about 16 to 19oz and will pack very small. A few examples
Burrow 40 - Hammock Gear
(request 2oz of down overstuff for 30F)
UGQ 30*F FLIGHTJACKET
Sierra Sniveller
Ultralight Sleeping Bag | Down Quilt | Revelation
Look around hammock forums for ideas.
Even better, have a look at Shug's videos. Entertaining and educational. Here's his Youtube page - so much hammock information that is fun to watch.
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC27...zD9YHK1IFwG7qA
Here is one where he shows how he uses a sleeping bag as a top quilt
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yFWs6UH7C74
Here is one where he discusses top quilt (about minute 3 in video)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XjL4ric6JZc&ebc
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I really love my Western Mountaineering Caribou. It packs down to practically nothing compared to a synthetic bag or even a lower grade down bag. They make one with a thinner shell that packs even smaller. Rated 35 but I've used it down to 30 and been fine, albeit with long underwear. Price isn't cheap but you do get what you pay for.
Any of the high grade 800+ down bags will generally pack very small. That's why they are expensive.
Synthetic bags have the advantage of sort of staying warm when they are wet, but they don't pack very small. I'm sure that then newer ones are better than the old ones though. (the Marmot pictured above looks impressively small for synthetic!) The best approach IMO is to not let your bag get wet.
Any of the high grade 800+ down bags will generally pack very small. That's why they are expensive.
Synthetic bags have the advantage of sort of staying warm when they are wet, but they don't pack very small. I'm sure that then newer ones are better than the old ones though. (the Marmot pictured above looks impressively small for synthetic!) The best approach IMO is to not let your bag get wet.
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If this thread has already been covered please link it! I couldn't find anything similar on the search.
My sleeping bag finally bit the dust after 6 years of touring/camping so looking for opinions on a new sleeping bag before my tour this year.
Looking for one around 30*F that packs pretty small.
I do have an underquilt for my hammock so one around 40*F would work as well. I don't get cold very easily.
Weight and price aren't factors really.
The smaller the better. I found a Marmot one that packs pretty small but it's rated for 55*F and not sure with my underquilt that would be warm enough.
My sleeping bag finally bit the dust after 6 years of touring/camping so looking for opinions on a new sleeping bag before my tour this year.
Looking for one around 30*F that packs pretty small.
I do have an underquilt for my hammock so one around 40*F would work as well. I don't get cold very easily.
Weight and price aren't factors really.
The smaller the better. I found a Marmot one that packs pretty small but it's rated for 55*F and not sure with my underquilt that would be warm enough.
look at Big Agnes Gunn Creek 30degs
both bags have a sleeping pad sleeve
and have use them
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The OP stated he had a hammock. When I was touring Australia with my "Hennessy Hammock", I used a pad of mylar bubble pad insulation under my sleeping bag. The insulation value of the mylar bubble pad was not to be cast aside - it was good to be warm on the bottom. Also, the bubble pad kept mossies from biting thru - into a bare arm resting on the hammock bottom.
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The finest sleeping bags are made by Western Mountaineering and Feathered Friends.
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I bought North Face. Although it is little bit expensive, it is really good for you to have a dry area to sleep. That is the best one which I used.
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The smaller the better... I guess you are talking a tight Mummy bag with a Down filling..
REI in Seattle, PDX & Eugene, will offer you a vast assortment and have people to ask about the relative merits of each.
REI in Seattle, PDX & Eugene, will offer you a vast assortment and have people to ask about the relative merits of each.
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I second the down route. I avoided using down for many years until finally broke down and bought one. It insulates better with less weight and bulk that a synthetic bag.
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the underquilt (line 4 of OP) is like a sleeping bag under the hammock, so as to not be compressed
by the body's weight on the bottom of the bag, in the hammock.
there are synthetic fillings trying to be Almost as good as Down ... almost .
the underquilt (line 4 of OP) is like a sleeping bag under the hammock, so as to not be compressed
by the body's weight on the bottom of the bag, in the hammock.
there are synthetic fillings trying to be Almost as good as Down ... almost .
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Although I like, and use, Big Agnes bags, I wouldn't suggest it for a hammock. The Big Agnes bag and pad is a system and is meant to be used that way. The bags have more insulation on the top and none on the bottom. The pad insulates the camper from the ground. I suppose that you could use the pad in a hammock but I suspect that would be problematic.
I second the down route. I avoided using down for many years until finally broke down and bought one. It insulates better with less weight and bulk that a synthetic bag.
I second the down route. I avoided using down for many years until finally broke down and bought one. It insulates better with less weight and bulk that a synthetic bag.
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I really love my Western Mountaineering Caribou. It packs down to practically nothing compared to a synthetic bag or even a lower grade down bag. They make one with a thinner shell that packs even smaller. Rated 35 but I've used it down to 30 and been fine, albeit with long underwear. Price isn't cheap but you do get what you pay for.
Any of the high grade 800+ down bags will generally pack very small. That's why they are expensive.
Synthetic bags have the advantage of sort of staying warm when they are wet, but they don't pack very small. I'm sure that then newer ones are better than the old ones though. (the Marmot pictured above looks impressively small for synthetic!) The best approach IMO is to not let your bag get wet.
Any of the high grade 800+ down bags will generally pack very small. That's why they are expensive.
Synthetic bags have the advantage of sort of staying warm when they are wet, but they don't pack very small. I'm sure that then newer ones are better than the old ones though. (the Marmot pictured above looks impressively small for synthetic!) The best approach IMO is to not let your bag get wet.
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I thought that I didn't really care if my bag was down or not. I got a Cat's Meow by North Face----synthetic. But it just barely stuffs into a 20l dry bag. In a 20l compression bag it shrinks to about volleyball size. A down bag would be save some space as the specs on most show them to stuff quite smaller....
The down one is a Marmot, but I suspect that Marmot, TNF and all the other top makers are about the same. So, look for a sale price.
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Before I moved to underquilts, I used Big Agnes bags (Fish Hawk and Moon Hill) in my hammocks. They work very well. I preferred to use closed cell foam rather than inflatable pads in the sleeve when in my hammock. One problem hammock users have with pads is keeping the pad under one's body. The Big Agnes system helped solve that problem in the hammock. For colder weather, I would supplement the system with an extra foam pad that was about 40" wide and 40" long under my torso. Tested down to 18F (hard to test colder than that in south Georgia).
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Good deal?
The underquilt I have is an Ember 2 (+50*F) but thinking it'll be fine in combination with the +15*F bag I now own.
Although I like, and use, Big Agnes bags, I wouldn't suggest it for a hammock. The Big Agnes bag and pad is a system and is meant to be used that way. The bags have more insulation on the top and none on the bottom. The pad insulates the camper from the ground. I suppose that you could use the pad in a hammock but I suspect that would be problematic.
I second the down route. I avoided using down for many years until finally broke down and bought one. It insulates better with less weight and bulk that a synthetic bag.
I second the down route. I avoided using down for many years until finally broke down and bought one. It insulates better with less weight and bulk that a synthetic bag.
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A few things. First, if a little more expense is not an issue I recommend down over synthetic for comfort as well as weight and compactibility. I know some have concerns about down and moisture, but over three decades of camping, all using down, I've had no issue whatsoever. That's even with thousands of miles canoeing in the rainy north. Now that I am using a hammock exclusively I have no concerns at all. I still use the same Marmot bag, a Nighthawk, purchased in 1983.
I wonder how your bag lasted only six years. The Nighthawk referenced above has seen me through several hundred nights and it is still in excellent condition. Likewise, my winter bag, also a Marmot, is going strong after 70-80 nights of use over the last three decades. In what way has your bag "bitten the dust"?
I wonder how your bag lasted only six years. The Nighthawk referenced above has seen me through several hundred nights and it is still in excellent condition. Likewise, my winter bag, also a Marmot, is going strong after 70-80 nights of use over the last three decades. In what way has your bag "bitten the dust"?
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