Go Back  Bike Forums > Bike Forums > Road Cycling
Reload this Page >

Dare I Say it ... n-1? Anyone looking for a Venturi?

Notices
Road Cycling “It is by riding a bicycle that you learn the contours of a country best, since you have to sweat up the hills and coast down them. Thus you remember them as they actually are, while in a motor car only a high hill impresses you, and you have no such accurate remembrance of country you have driven through as you gain by riding a bicycle.” -- Ernest Hemingway

Dare I Say it ... n-1? Anyone looking for a Venturi?

Old 10-21-19, 07:17 PM
  #1  
UsedToBeFaster
Member
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Aug 2019
Posts: 38
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 23 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 3 Times in 3 Posts
Dare I Say it ... n-1? Anyone looking for a Venturi?

So I picked up an unusual steel racing bike for a song. It's called a Breezer Venturi and I got one built up with 5800, Campy wheelset i.e. nicely put together for $500 as the previous owner was deceased and his wife just wanted it gone.

It's an aggresive geometry but the previous owner put in a shorter stem so it geometry is more like an endurance bike but the short chain stays make handling blindingly quick. It's a beautiful bike in all aspects: i) build quality, ii) paint, iii) handling (nice and stiff due to hydroforming but compliant due to the steel) etc.

The only thing negative about it, is that is almost identical to my CF endurance bike except the endurace bike is a little bit more upright and the handling isn't as quick.

So should I keep both or sell the Venturi? I just can't seem to think of a reason so please give me one as its a great bike.
UsedToBeFaster is offline  
Old 10-21-19, 07:32 PM
  #2  
Wileyrat
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2013
Location: Tucson Az
Posts: 1,383

Bikes: 2015 Ridley Fenix, 1983 Team Fuji, 1985 Novara Strada, 2013 BD Motobecane 650ht, 90 Trek 850

Mentioned: 3 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 258 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 37 Times in 25 Posts
Will you ride it? If yes, keep it.

It sounds like a fun bike to me.
Wileyrat is offline  
Old 10-21-19, 07:52 PM
  #3  
chainwhip
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2017
Posts: 378
Mentioned: 10 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 132 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 37 Times in 30 Posts
Poidh

POIDH = " PicsOrItDidntHappen"
chainwhip is offline  
Old 10-21-19, 08:20 PM
  #4  
UsedToBeFaster
Member
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Aug 2019
Posts: 38
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 23 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 3 Times in 3 Posts
Of what?

Handing over the money! The widower looking ashen face?

Its an odd bike the Venturi the TT is 57.5cm and the ST 54cm. Very short 405mm stays.

If I raced crits I would keep it, but alas I do not.

Originally Posted by chainwhip View Post
POIDH = " PicsOrItDidntHappen"
UsedToBeFaster is offline  
Old 10-21-19, 08:27 PM
  #5  
chainwhip
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2017
Posts: 378
Mentioned: 10 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 132 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 37 Times in 30 Posts
Originally Posted by UsedToBeFaster View Post
Handing over the money! The widower looking ashen face?
The widow?
The money?


Ahem...the BIKE.
Perhaps?
chainwhip is offline  
Old 10-22-19, 04:47 AM
  #6  
shelbyfv
Senior Member
 
shelbyfv's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Posts: 5,683
Mentioned: 24 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1246 Post(s)
Liked 268 Times in 176 Posts
IIRC there were some fun threads about these bikes a few years ago. The geometry was so bizarre they were almost giving them away. Folks would come here to brag about the deal they got, then realize they couldn't ride the bike w/o a clown stack of spacers.
shelbyfv is online now  
Likes For shelbyfv:
Old 10-22-19, 05:08 AM
  #7  
PepeM
Senior Member
 
PepeM's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2015
Posts: 6,833
Mentioned: 180 Post(s)
Tagged: 1 Thread(s)
Quoted: 2720 Post(s)
Liked 91 Times in 43 Posts
Originally Posted by UsedToBeFaster View Post
So I picked up an unusual steel racing bike for a song. It's called a Breezer Venturi and I got one built up with 5800, Campy wheelset i.e. nicely put together for $500 as the previous owner was deceased and his wife just wanted it gone.
This couldn't be the bike from a quite excellent former BF poster whose name escapes me right now, could it? @Dan333SP, help me out here.
PepeM is offline  
Old 10-22-19, 05:11 AM
  #8  
PepeM
Senior Member
 
PepeM's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2015
Posts: 6,833
Mentioned: 180 Post(s)
Tagged: 1 Thread(s)
Quoted: 2720 Post(s)
Liked 91 Times in 43 Posts
Found it:

https://www.bikeforums.net/road-cycl...ck-stroke.html
PepeM is offline  
Old 10-22-19, 05:17 AM
  #9  
PepeM
Senior Member
 
PepeM's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2015
Posts: 6,833
Mentioned: 180 Post(s)
Tagged: 1 Thread(s)
Quoted: 2720 Post(s)
Liked 91 Times in 43 Posts
I think it is his bike. This somehow makes me feel happy.

Originally Posted by Inpd View Post
Hi,

I've seen quite a few times people mention that if you build up a bike component-wise its a labor of love and will be more expensive than what the manufacturers sell. But I just want to point out it is possible IF you buy your components from the UK.

The details are below, but essentially for $850 I got a steel bike with complete 5800 drive train and other entry level components. If your wondering why I bought other entry level components, I'm going to ride the bike with these components and then upgrade in 6 months.

For $895 I could have bought a Gran Premio Elite (a steel bike) from BD which contains most of the 5800 drive train but compromises on the cranks, brakes and BB. Also, according to reviews the BD bike weights 21.8 pounds and mine should come in at under 20 pounds.

Now of course the big difference is my bike is lying around in parts and I have to put it together, but so far so good. Putting together the steering assembly took 40 minutes including cutting down the steering tube. I estimate it will take me about 10 hours to assemble.

Details
=====

The gran premio elite specs are here Save Up To 60% Off Pro Level Steel Road Bikes Commuting Commuter Bikes Motobecane Gran Premio PRO

My cost break down is:

Frameset: Breezer Venturi $300 (BikeWagon)
Entire 5800 Groupset: $350 (Wiggle or Merlins)
Wheels: Camparelo Khashims Assymetric 2016 $118 (Merlin)
Tires, bottle cages, pedals, seat, handlebars, tape etc $80 (Ribble)

I think my bike is better speced than the BD offering. The Gran Premio frame appears to have a regular Chromly rear triangle (not 520) and BD uses a non-Shimano brakes, cranks and BB. The Campy Khashims and the RS11 wheelset the BD bike has are comparable.
PepeM is offline  
Old 10-22-19, 06:46 AM
  #10  
Dan333SP
Serious Cyclist
 
Dan333SP's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: RVA
Posts: 9,099

Bikes: 2013 Madone 3.1

Mentioned: 97 Post(s)
Tagged: 1 Thread(s)
Quoted: 5528 Post(s)
Liked 54 Times in 30 Posts
Originally Posted by PepeM View Post
This couldn't be the bike from a quite excellent former BF poster whose name escapes me right now, could it? @Dan333SP, help me out here.
Oh man that was so sad to read that post again

I'd imagine this has to be the same bike. Small world, and I hope OP enjoys it for many thousands of miles.
Dan333SP is offline  
Old 10-22-19, 07:17 AM
  #11  
noodle soup
Senior Member
 
noodle soup's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2015
Posts: 6,604
Mentioned: 18 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 3163 Post(s)
Liked 263 Times in 178 Posts
Originally Posted by PepeM View Post
I think it is his bike. This somehow makes me feel happy.
IIRC, we suspected it was his bike, but it turned out that it wasn’t.
noodle soup is offline  
Old 10-22-19, 07:27 AM
  #12  
big john
Senior Member
 
big john's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: In the foothills of Los Angeles County
Posts: 12,426
Mentioned: 3 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 387 Post(s)
Liked 103 Times in 79 Posts
Originally Posted by PepeM View Post
The 3rd poster in that thread, PhotoJoe, is gone, too.
big john is offline  
Old 10-22-19, 08:39 AM
  #13  
TrojanHorse
SuperGimp
 
TrojanHorse's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: Whittier, CA
Posts: 13,252

Bikes: Specialized Roubaix

Mentioned: 145 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1066 Post(s)
Liked 41 Times in 29 Posts
Originally Posted by big john View Post
The 3rd poster in that thread, PhotoJoe, is gone, too.
Cancer, in his case... third time is *not* a charm.

We were just reminiscing about a century we did with PhotoJoe (TdPS) back in 2016. Good times.
TrojanHorse is offline  
Old 10-22-19, 01:03 PM
  #14  
wheelreason
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Posts: 700
Mentioned: 3 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 91 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 4 Times in 3 Posts
You know that movie, where the newlywed young couple buy an old house, and the man needs to leave on a business trip, and the woman is left alone, and the creepy handyman/neighbor old man tells her to stay out of the basement, but if she does go down there to never ever open the sealed fireplace/furnace thing, and she does?
Well, this is how this frame works. I still own mine, and will until a full moon spans 2 days in September...
wheelreason is offline  
Old 10-22-19, 02:24 PM
  #15  
big john
Senior Member
 
big john's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: In the foothills of Los Angeles County
Posts: 12,426
Mentioned: 3 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 387 Post(s)
Liked 103 Times in 79 Posts
Originally Posted by TrojanHorse View Post
Cancer, in his case... third time is *not* a charm.

We were just reminiscing about a century we did with PhotoJoe (TdPS) back in 2016. Good times.
I never met him but I chatted with him a bit on here. I remember he was excited about riding and improving to do longer rides. Seemed like a nice guy.
big john is offline  
Old 10-22-19, 02:59 PM
  #16  
firebird854
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2017
Location: Wisconsin
Posts: 420

Bikes: 2016 Specialized Tarmac Expert

Mentioned: 5 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 186 Post(s)
Liked 32 Times in 24 Posts
I'd make this a poll, IMO, keep it
firebird854 is offline  
Old 10-22-19, 06:39 PM
  #17  
downhillmaster
Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 2018
Posts: 823
Mentioned: 5 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 489 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 172 Times in 93 Posts
Originally Posted by shelbyfv View Post
IIRC there were some fun threads about these bikes a few years ago. The geometry was so bizarre they were almost giving them away. Folks would come here to brag about the deal they got, then realize they couldn't ride the bike w/o a clown stack of spacers.
Frames were clearanced down to $300 back then I believe.
downhillmaster is offline  
Old 10-23-19, 07:39 AM
  #18  
UsedToBeFaster
Member
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Aug 2019
Posts: 38
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 23 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 3 Times in 3 Posts
Originally Posted by wheelreason View Post
. I still own mine, and will until a full moon spans 2 days in September...
Because ...
UsedToBeFaster is offline  
Old 10-25-19, 09:27 AM
  #19  
UsedToBeFaster
Member
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Aug 2019
Posts: 38
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 23 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 3 Times in 3 Posts
That could be it!

Definitely has Campy wheels not sure the model. Definitely has the entire 5800 groupset. Is there a picture of the bike that was built up.

But I'm feeling a bit jaded because it only cost the guy 850 bucks and I bought if a 500 used.

Originally Posted by PepeM View Post
I think it is his bike. This somehow makes me feel happy.
UsedToBeFaster is offline  
Old 10-25-19, 09:51 AM
  #20  
mstateglfr 
Sunshine
 
mstateglfr's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2014
Location: Des Moines, IA
Posts: 9,094

Bikes: '18 class built steel roadbike, '19 Fairlight Secan, '87 Schwinn Prelude, Black Mountain Cycles Monstercross V4, '89 Novara Trionfo, '18 Diamondback Syncr

Mentioned: 84 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 3393 Post(s)
Liked 410 Times in 282 Posts
Originally Posted by UsedToBeFaster View Post
But I'm feeling a bit jaded because it only cost the guy 850 bucks and I bought if a 500 used.
Way to have a healthy perspective.*** <--- sarcasterisks
mstateglfr is offline  
Old 10-25-19, 11:06 AM
  #21  
PepeM
Senior Member
 
PepeM's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2015
Posts: 6,833
Mentioned: 180 Post(s)
Tagged: 1 Thread(s)
Quoted: 2720 Post(s)
Liked 91 Times in 43 Posts
You cannot find that bike for that kind of money anywhere, so it is still quite a good deal.
PepeM is offline  
Old 10-25-19, 11:24 AM
  #22  
noodle soup
Senior Member
 
noodle soup's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2015
Posts: 6,604
Mentioned: 18 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 3163 Post(s)
Liked 263 Times in 178 Posts
Originally Posted by UsedToBeFaster View Post
Definitely has Campy wheels not sure the model. Definitely has the entire 5800 groupset. Is there a picture of the bike that was built up.

But I'm feeling a bit jaded because it only cost the guy 850 bucks and I bought if a 500 used.
this is the one Inpd built up.


Last edited by noodle soup; 10-25-19 at 11:31 AM.
noodle soup is offline  
Old 10-27-19, 08:29 PM
  #23  
wheelreason
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Posts: 700
Mentioned: 3 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 91 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 4 Times in 3 Posts
Originally Posted by UsedToBeFaster View Post
Because ...
Because it cost me $666 for the whole build...
wheelreason is offline  
Old 10-27-19, 10:39 PM
  #24  
UsedToBeFaster
Member
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Aug 2019
Posts: 38
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 23 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 3 Times in 3 Posts
Blue I like ...

The black less so, it just looks odd. Blue tires are nice.

Originally Posted by wheelreason View Post
Because it cost me $666 for the whole build...
Blue
UsedToBeFaster is offline  
Old 10-28-19, 06:47 AM
  #25  
chainwhip
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2017
Posts: 378
Mentioned: 10 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 132 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 37 Times in 30 Posts
That's a pretty long stem....(110mm?120mm?)

...on a bike with an already long top tube.
And not much seatpost showing either!

Congrats on the core muhscles!


Originally Posted by wheelreason View Post
Because it cost me $666 for the whole build...
chainwhip is offline  

Thread Tools
Search this Thread

Contact Us - Archive - Advertising - Cookie Policy - Privacy Statement - Terms of Service

Copyright © 2018 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Use of this site indicates your consent to the Terms of Use.