Best Self Sealing Tubes
02-25-20, 09:53 PM
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No worries, happy to help. Though I would avoid the Cheng Shin tires unless free or better yet they pay you to take them. Not a quality tire in the least. However yes quality tire, proper inflation will help greatly.
I am curious where you are riding that you have no way of stopping? Not so much exact location but general conditions. I haven't ridden anywhere yet where I couldn't pull over or at least be able to walk the bike. I have seen places where it is tough to stop but with some warning to people behind you can generally get off and at least walk to a safer spot.
I am curious where you are riding that you have no way of stopping? Not so much exact location but general conditions. I haven't ridden anywhere yet where I couldn't pull over or at least be able to walk the bike. I have seen places where it is tough to stop but with some warning to people behind you can generally get off and at least walk to a safer spot.
Not dangerous as in a hazardous situation. Dangerous as in potential Crime and confrontations. Best to avoid.
02-25-20, 11:20 PM
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I spend a lot of time in S E Asia. Much of it in rural areas. I often cycle on dirt tracks to villages. When it rains, there is often a lot of mud. I ride a fat bike, as it is the best for the situation.
We can all get off and walk. But if you are 20 km from where you are staying, you might not get back before night.
I could carry a fat bike tube, and the tools needed to change it, or even a puncture repair kit. A fat bike tube is larger than a regular tube, so it would mean are adding weight for something I might use on rare occasions. In addition, in some of the places where I go, tools may be stolen when you are not looking. So I would give myself another task, to watch my bike all of the time. Then of course, it is inconvenient to repair a tire when it is covered with mud.
Almost all of the punctures I have are from sharp spikes on plants and seeds. These small holes seal easily with tire sealant. I believe, if I use tire sealant, some tires will not need to be patched for the entire life of the tire. So I plan to try it out and see what happens.
Even in Australia, most of the punctures I get are small enough to seal with tire sealant.
Some people want light weight, so they can be competitive. Some of us just want the bike to be as reliable as possible, and have the least inconvenience.
02-26-20, 10:52 AM
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Are there that many self sealing tubes to make "best" a real issue? Slime, Bell, Schwinn. Who else is there? All inexpensive so not so big a deal if you get a flat in-spite of them. I'd be hesitant for tubeless tire sealants unless they state that they are also for use in tubes.
Your question really goes against what most of us want-- less rolling resistance and lightweight with good ride quality, that's probably why so much push back. As well no one committing to a recommendation from experience with them.
A self sealing tube just seems to be more weight. Also, like sealant in a tubeless tire, might not like sitting for long periods of time. And might need to be changed entirely on a regular basis.
Your question really goes against what most of us want-- less rolling resistance and lightweight with good ride quality, that's probably why so much push back. As well no one committing to a recommendation from experience with them.
A self sealing tube just seems to be more weight. Also, like sealant in a tubeless tire, might not like sitting for long periods of time. And might need to be changed entirely on a regular basis.
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02-26-20, 11:08 AM
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No worries, happy to help. Though I would avoid the Cheng Shin tires unless free or better yet they pay you to take them. Not a quality tire in the least. However yes quality tire, proper inflation will help greatly.
I am curious where you are riding that you have no way of stopping? Not so much exact location but general conditions. I haven't ridden anywhere yet where I couldn't pull over or at least be able to walk the bike. I have seen places where it is tough to stop but with some warning to people behind you can generally get off and at least walk to a safer spot.
I am curious where you are riding that you have no way of stopping? Not so much exact location but general conditions. I haven't ridden anywhere yet where I couldn't pull over or at least be able to walk the bike. I have seen places where it is tough to stop but with some warning to people behind you can generally get off and at least walk to a safer spot.
02-26-20, 12:02 PM
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No worries, happy to help. Though I would avoid the Cheng Shin tires unless free or better yet they pay you to take them. Not a quality tire in the least. However yes quality tire, proper inflation will help greatly.
I am curious where you are riding that you have no way of stopping? Not so much exact location but general conditions. I haven't ridden anywhere yet where I couldn't pull over or at least be able to walk the bike. I have seen places where it is tough to stop but with some warning to people behind you can generally get off and at least walk to a safer spot.
I am curious where you are riding that you have no way of stopping? Not so much exact location but general conditions. I haven't ridden anywhere yet where I couldn't pull over or at least be able to walk the bike. I have seen places where it is tough to stop but with some warning to people behind you can generally get off and at least walk to a safer spot.
02-26-20, 12:28 PM
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https://www.wiggle.co.uk/lifeline-pr...our-road-tyre/
There are many others but I have no personal experience. If you dont mind a higher price tyre take a look at the Pirelli Cintorato.
Or ...
https://s.wiggle.co.uk/images/lifeli...yre-review.pdf
02-26-20, 05:09 PM
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As far as the riding path it looks like there is some possibility but not great at least a little bit of shoulder and a grassy embankment that you might be able to work on. But yeah not great.
02-26-20, 06:07 PM
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02-26-20, 10:09 PM
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I have tried using sealant in high pressure road tires with tubes (think corsa g+ and Conti GP5000) 28 mm at 110-115 psi, in general it has not worked well, but is has spewed out making a mess of every thing 
. I do think it helped once. My assement is that it depends on what is causing the flat. if it is a thorn that is causing a slow leak good chances the sealant will work, but if you run over some thing sharp and it does not stay in the tire, the pressure is going to push the sealant out to fast to work....that is my theory base on observation.
I always carry a pump, spare tire and a patch kit......
it is pretty much always a balance between weight and puncture resistance. So far I have been really happy with GP5000, 28 mm with conti racelite tubes. 400 plus miles of commuting and no flats......on a road bike and i am 238. I pump them up to max 115Psi
. I do think it helped once. My assement is that it depends on what is causing the flat. if it is a thorn that is causing a slow leak good chances the sealant will work, but if you run over some thing sharp and it does not stay in the tire, the pressure is going to push the sealant out to fast to work....that is my theory base on observation.I always carry a pump, spare tire and a patch kit......
it is pretty much always a balance between weight and puncture resistance. So far I have been really happy with GP5000, 28 mm with conti racelite tubes. 400 plus miles of commuting and no flats......on a road bike and i am 238. I pump them up to max 115Psi
I can only share my experience...... but gator skins seem to be well regarded, I have them on one my bikes and have had good results, but it is not a high mileage bike,
While I have not had consistent success with adding sealant to a tube in a high pressure situation, I have had what i think was one save by sealant....where the tire was super low after a ride, i pumped it and it has head since,
Just don't depend on sealant 100% carry tube, pump and patch kit
FWIW I used caffeetex sealant for the one that seemed to work (orange seal on the ones that didn't) I will continue to use the 1 oz per tube as a preventative
While I have not had consistent success with adding sealant to a tube in a high pressure situation, I have had what i think was one save by sealant....where the tire was super low after a ride, i pumped it and it has head since,
Just don't depend on sealant 100% carry tube, pump and patch kit
FWIW I used caffeetex sealant for the one that seemed to work (orange seal on the ones that didn't) I will continue to use the 1 oz per tube as a preventative
bottom line fact of life is you will get flats, nothing can prevent it 100%, so you should be prepared for a flat. everything you need (irons, tube (1 or 2) patch kit fit in a small under seat pack, pump is on frame or waterbottle mount I have these on all my bikes. No big Deal
you can minimize risk of flats with heavy duty tubes, heavy duty tires, sealant, etc but you cannot prevent flats
you can minimize risk of flats with heavy duty tubes, heavy duty tires, sealant, etc but you cannot prevent flats
dude you can approach it that way, but you are not dealing with reality, simple fact is you will get a flat sometime. take the stuff with you that you can change/fix a flat, especially if it is as dangerous as you are making out. practice so you can fix a flat fast.
how about explaining what is so dangerous if you get a flat on your twice daily rec rides?
over and out
how about explaining what is so dangerous if you get a flat on your twice daily rec rides?
over and out
02-27-20, 08:55 AM
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02-27-20, 09:19 AM
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I wasn't. I can't stand cluttering up the bike. But all the poking by all of the posters I quoted above made me think,yeah, it is best to do everything possible to avoid flats in the first place but if I do get a flat on the far reaches of my rec ride or the occasional urban ride and I can't fix it I would be in a lot more trouble then I would be spending 20 minutes repairing the flat. I thought I might be being a little hard headed trying to be a purist. So I mozied on down to Walsmarts and picked up a nice compact Zeifal under seat bag (really nice), a Bell Co2 kit and stuffed a cheap small 15mm wrench,new Bontreger tube and irons into it along with the Co2. Debating whether to put some Rema glue and 15mm patches and some sand paper in there too. This is if I don't look at this thing in a week and think it looks sissy and take it off.
