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Old 02-11-21, 10:16 AM
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Originally Posted by Velo Vol
Duh.
There are a lot of roads where I grew up in rural PA that have no center line, and everyone seems to manage not to run into oncoming cars.

Well, ALMOST everyone.
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Old 02-11-21, 10:18 AM
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Here is one more road without lines or cars. They do clean the rocks off of it eventually. It tees into an open highway at the top.
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Originally Posted by Velo Vol
They don't use regular tyres.
I'm thinking that your conditions will be a smidge less severe.

FWIW, though, some "all season" tires are pretty lackluster on slippery stuff. I don't know what they were, but the stock tires on the Jetta were pretty bad on snow/ice. We once got caught in a storm, with them on the car, while traversing IN. It was very slippery and I could occasionally feel the strong side winds push the car towards the shoulder. That leg of the journey was a stressful crawl and we've since made a point of having the snow tires on the car for any VA trips between ~November and April
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Originally Posted by genejockey
There are a lot of roads where I grew up in rural PA that have no center line, and everyone seems to manage not to run into oncoming cars.

Well, ALMOST everyone.
That's because the horses know not to run into each other.
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Originally Posted by genejockey
There are a lot of roads where I grew up in rural PA that have no center line, and everyone seems to manage not to run into oncoming cars.

Well, ALMOST everyone.
It's been said that intersections without traffic controls are one of the better ways to cut down on accidents. I'm pretty open-minded, but man, that would be an interesting transition period.
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Old 02-11-21, 10:31 AM
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Ugh. Currently -7°A. Out of pure stubbornness, I'm still thinking that I'll walk to the grocery store and bakery.

Should prolly bring an insulated bag so that the food doesn't freeze, though.
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Originally Posted by WhyFi
FWIW, though, some "all season" tires are pretty lackluster on slippery stuff.
Anything with a smooth surface (or even claws) is going to slide on ice. It's physics.

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I don’t think I have ever have wanted winter to end, as I do this year. I think I have mentioned it before, by house is at the bottom of a hill and my yard slopes to the rear. My back yard has been solid mud this whole winter, so my daughter hasn’t been to use her play ground. Keeping her entertained is hard, and there is not that many options that don’t cost money for things to do.

Plan was to higher a landscaper in the spring to fix the yard, but we didn’t get back what we expected on our taxes so now that’s not going to happen either.
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Originally Posted by Velo Vol
Anything with a smooth surface (or even claws) is going to slide on ice. It's physics.
And you call yourself a quasi-northerner. SMH
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Old 02-11-21, 10:46 AM
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Originally Posted by WhyFi
Sorry, but I've never experienced anything like that happening - there's always warning/cause for concern. The conditions necessary don't just spring in to being - there needs to be enough icy precip to overcome the ground warmth and accumulate (certainly enough time to adjust) or the ground needs to be very, very cold, which means long stretches of freezing temps and little-to-no sun... and then a freak rain storm moves in. I can't fathom what that would have to look like, meteorologically, but it can't be completely without warning.
Yep. And even considering your second case, there's the infrastructure here to easily preemptively salt the roads. I bet after the last few weeks the ground is cold enough now that if we got rain there would be some risk of icing, if the roads weren't already white with salt.

I'm so looking forward to a nice rain to wash off the roads and get the SLT off of the trainer.
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If I understand correctly the hip bursa acts up when you have leg muscles rubbing the point of the hip.

But the stretches that are supposed to help require you to (painfully) stretch those same muscles across the hip.
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Old 02-11-21, 11:08 AM
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I can barely make it to the starting position.

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Old 02-11-21, 11:09 AM
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Originally Posted by MoAlpha
Lengthening days are helping me some, too.
My CBT class recommended doing something for someone to perk up your mood so I shoveled two of my neighbor's drives. One is an old couple that are housebound and the other is a young couple who work long hours, one on third shift. I also did about a thousand feet of sidewalk for the dog walkers because they pick their poop up.
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This has been a rough winter for both cold and nuisance snows.

Things that have paid for themselves and/or showed their worth this winter are:

Wahoo Kickr
Snow blower
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I'm sure that I've forgotten some but I've used all of them almost daily the last month or so.
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Originally Posted by WhyFi
Step 1) slow down

This is most often ignored, though.
Preferably slowing down without using your brakes very much.

Man, that's some carnage! Wonder if that's a 75mph speed limit road, 80mph cruising speed.
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Originally Posted by Velo Vol
I can barely make it to the starting position.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eKp2f5-jRbI
Only my right leg can comfortably get into the starting position. MY left knee disagrees with the whole idea for some reason.
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Originally Posted by WhyFi
It's been said that intersections without traffic controls are one of the better ways to cut down on accidents. I'm pretty open-minded, but man, that would be an interesting transition period.
In the early '90s when I moved to the 'hood in NE Portland there were many intersections with no stop signs. Totally insane 'til you learned to look for stop signs on the crossing road.

We called them 4-way No Stops.

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Originally Posted by abshipp
I'm so looking forward to a nice rain to wash off the roads and get the SLT off of the trainer.
Ugh. I so miss riding on the Cervelo. It's currently residing in the basement and I carry it up for trainer sessions - it's a reminder that it's so light and lovely compared to the studded tank that I've been riding.
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Originally Posted by LesterOfPuppets
In the early '90s when I moved to the 'hood in NE Portland there were many intersections with no stop signs. Totally insane 'til you learned to look for stop signs on the crossing road.

We called them 4-way No Stops.

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I do like the idea, but would be afraid of the carnage until everyone got the memo. Hell, I'm living in a area where, despite their presence for a handful of years, many still don't know how to navigate a traffic circle.
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I do like the idea, but would be afraid of the carnage until everyone got the memo. Hell, I'm living in a area where, despite their presence for a handful of years, many still don't know how to navigate a traffic circle.
The Square in Gettysburg is really a traffic circle, and I can tell you, most people don't know how to handle it, and a lot of them freeze.
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Originally Posted by LesterOfPuppets
Only my right leg can comfortably get into the starting position. MY left knee disagrees with the whole idea for some reason.
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The wife and I remarked on the ever earlier sunrise the other day. It helps some, but I'm still looking at topping out in the single digits for the next five days or so.
We've been having midday sunshine lately. Still cold, but, sun.
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Originally Posted by genejockey
The Square in Gettysburg is really a traffic circle, and I can tell you, most people don't know how to handle it, and a lot of them freeze.
Yeah, it's silly. I've seen people stop before entering, when there's no other traffic in the circle, I've seen people in the circle stop and yield to people waiting to enter, and I've seen people go the wrong way around.
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Originally Posted by Velo Vol
Does anyone know how to drive on ice?
Yes, slowly.
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Originally Posted by rjones28
I recall that it was super hot that day. Stopped in the shade to avoid heat stroke.
This is a rare post from you that sounds inviting.
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