Go Back  Bike Forums > Bike Forums > Bicycle Mechanics
Reload this Page >

Slightest tick/click/pop..when riding, I am going crazy!

Search
Notices
Bicycle Mechanics Broken bottom bracket? Tacoed wheel? If you're having problems with your bicycle, or just need help fixing a flat, drop in here for the latest on bicycle mechanics & bicycle maintenance.

Slightest tick/click/pop..when riding, I am going crazy!

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 04-27-20, 06:22 AM
  #1  
stampz
Newbie
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Apr 2020
Posts: 21
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 18 Post(s)
Liked 13 Times in 6 Posts
Slightest tick/click/pop..when riding, I am going crazy!

Seriously...I am going to throw the bike in the river! ;-)

So...I have a Specialized Allez Elite which is giving off the faintest clicl/pop/tick on my left when riding (its very quiet...but to me is unbearable). It's not even as loud as the tick of a watch, but it's deafening to me!

Now, please bear with me, I know I sound like a madman, but I am at a loss...I have taken apart the all the usual culprits...pedals, cleats,l tightened saddle, headset, cleaned everything...swapped the pedals completely, rode a test with different shoes and it is still there...I have checked the internal cabling to ensure it isn't rattling...all good...!

Now the thing is, it doesn't sound like any of these normal sounds you would expect...its no a mechanical click or creak...it is the faintest sound, and seems to occur when the left pedal crosses just about 12 o clock...even so, I have now convinced myself it isn't coming from the pedals...I even tried as I say changing the pedals completely, and have just been out in flip flops and its still there!

To my ear it 100% sounds like it is coming from left handlebar end or near the shifter or break...or "inside" the handlebars...I have removed the end caps and rode, still there, tried with brakes pulled on and off...still there...

You can't "feel" the click...the ride is silky smooth, but it is seriously driving me insane...my ear is very sensitive...I can't even have a watch in a drawer in the bedroom or it will keep me awake!.....this is now ruining my riding :-(

Has ANYONE got ANY ideas...? I beg you... :-)

So...the plot thickens

Just been out for a quick 30miles to try to get to the bottom of it...still no joy...however.

It only happens when I am seated AND holding the handlebars. Let go of the handlebars..stops..stand and pedal...stops. I stopped a couple of times and tweaked the saddle position, I even stopped and undid all the bolts and loosened and retightened the handlebars. No joy :-(

I appreciate everyones comments, but I really dont think it is anything rubbing, or BB or derailer, it just isn't that kind of sound. The only thing I can compare it too is that air bubble pop you get when you crack your fingers, but much fainter...this is ridiculous I know!

Last edited by stampz; 04-27-20 at 12:45 PM. Reason: Updated information
stampz is offline  
Old 04-27-20, 06:30 AM
  #2  
Papa Tom
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2008
Posts: 4,440
Mentioned: 23 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 863 Post(s)
Liked 234 Times in 136 Posts
I am not one of the more advanced mechanics on this forum, but I will get the ball rolling so others can build on my theory.

Assuming it is NOT your bottom bracket, which can create a "ticking" sound when it is going bad, the chances are it's something simple, like the components of your saddle (parts you can't tighten) creaking, or your foot catching something on the frame every time you reach a certain point in your pedal revolution.

Just about every time I've had mystery sounds like this (and I am as sensitive to annoying sounds as you are), it has turned out to be something very minor that, once identified, could be fixed in a minute or two.

Good luck!
Papa Tom is offline  
Old 04-27-20, 06:31 AM
  #3  
Rage
Space Ghost
 
Rage's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2017
Location: NYC
Posts: 1,762

Bikes: Bridgestone, Fuji, Iro, Jamis, Gary Fisher, GT, Scott, Specialized and more

Mentioned: 3 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 292 Post(s)
Liked 412 Times in 318 Posts
Jeeze, it sounds like you’ve gone over the bike pretty comprehensively, too.
Not being flip or anything but this reminds me of “The Tell Tale Heart” by Edgar Allen Poe...
Rage is offline  
Old 04-27-20, 07:30 AM
  #4  
Retro Grouch 
Senior Member
 
Retro Grouch's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: St Peters, Missouri
Posts: 30,225

Bikes: Catrike 559 I own some others but they don't get ridden very much.

Mentioned: 16 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1572 Post(s)
Liked 643 Times in 364 Posts
How is your front shift cable routed? I had that once and it turned out to be the shift cable brushing the crank arm.
__________________
My greatest fear is all of my kids standing around my coffin and talking about "how sensible" dad was.
Retro Grouch is offline  
Old 04-27-20, 09:38 AM
  #5  
dsbrantjr
Senior Member
 
dsbrantjr's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: Roswell, GA
Posts: 8,319

Bikes: '93 Trek 750, '92 Schwinn Crisscross, '93 Mongoose Alta

Mentioned: 30 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1438 Post(s)
Liked 1,092 Times in 723 Posts
Originally Posted by Retro Grouch
How is your front shift cable routed? I had that once and it turned out to be the shift cable brushing the crank arm.
This is a subtle one, and it may change/disappear with front derailleur position.
dsbrantjr is offline  
Old 04-27-20, 09:42 AM
  #6  
mprince
Dont fix whats not broken
 
Join Date: Sep 2019
Location: Mooresville, NC
Posts: 302

Bikes: Steelman Stage Race, Dura-Ace 9s

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 95 Post(s)
Liked 166 Times in 93 Posts
Other places to look - sometimes presta valves can tick against the rim, you can try remounting the tire or try applying the small nut that no one uses to the valve stem.

I once had a click that drove me crazy - ended up being my Flite saddle. A drop of chain lube where the front of the rails went into the shell every couple months kept that one quiet, but it took forever to find.
mprince is offline  
Old 04-27-20, 10:03 AM
  #7  
Chuckles1
Full Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2019
Location: Foothills of West Central Maine
Posts: 410

Bikes: 2007 Motobecane Fantom Cross Expert, 2020 Motobecane Omni Strada Pro Disc (700c gravel bike), 2021 Motobecane Elite Adventure with Bafang 500W rear hub drive

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 174 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 143 Times in 94 Posts
Originally Posted by stampz
To my ear it 100% sounds like it is coming from left handlebar end or near the shifter or break...or "inside" the handlebars...I have removed the end caps and rode, still there, tried with brakes pulled on and off...still there...
Both of my bikes with Shimano Tiagra levers and drop bars started making a rattling sound that matches the quote above. One is 13 years old and never did this before, the other is less than a year old. I tore into the old one and removed a plastic nut locker that seemed loose, but still the noise persisted. And bizarrely, it seems to get worse at higher speed or if the wind is strong, as if air speed causes it.

Then we finally got a couple warm days, about sixty degrees, and voila, the rattling is gone. Too soon to be sure, but I think it's temperature dependent. I don't usually ride much below 55 degrees F, but this spring have been riding if it's high 40s or above. Could your noise be related to cooler temperature?
Chuckles1 is offline  
Old 04-27-20, 10:06 AM
  #8  
woodcraft
Senior Member
 
woodcraft's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: Nor Cal
Posts: 6,016
Mentioned: 17 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1814 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 923 Times in 569 Posts
Have you tried swapping knees?
woodcraft is offline  
Likes For woodcraft:
Old 04-27-20, 10:16 AM
  #9  
tyrion
Senior Member
 
tyrion's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2015
Location: San Diego, California
Posts: 4,077

Bikes: Velo Orange Piolet

Mentioned: 28 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 2228 Post(s)
Liked 2,011 Times in 972 Posts
Originally Posted by stampz
...it is the faintest sound, and seems to occur when the left pedal crosses just about 12 o clock...even so, I have now convinced myself it isn't coming from the pedals...I even tried as I say changing the pedals completely, and have just been out in flip flops and its still there!

To my ear it 100% sounds like it is coming from left handlebar end or near the shifter or break...or "inside" the handlebars...
I had a tick when the NDS pedal hit 1 o'clock on a new bike and the mechanic took the crank off and regreased/retorqued the chainring bolts and the crank and maybe the external BB as well and that fixed it. In my case it sounded like it was coming from the crank area, but it was very faint and very consistently coming when the left crank hit 1 o'clock.
tyrion is offline  
Old 04-27-20, 12:41 PM
  #10  
stampz
Newbie
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Apr 2020
Posts: 21
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 18 Post(s)
Liked 13 Times in 6 Posts
So...the plot thickens

Just been out for a quick 30miles to try to get to the bottom of it...still no joy...however.

It only happens when I am seated AND holding the handlebars. Let go of the handlebars..stops..stand and pedal...stops. I stopped a couple of times and tweaked the saddle position, I even stopped and undid all the bolts and loosened and retightened the handlebars. No joy :-(

I appreciate everyones comments, but I really dont think it is anything rubbing, or BB or derailer, it just isn't that kind of sound. The only thing I can compare it too is that air bubble pop you get when you crack your fingers, but much fainter...this is ridiculous I know!
stampz is offline  
Old 04-27-20, 12:47 PM
  #11  
Barry2 
LR÷P=HR
 
Join Date: Sep 2019
Location: SF Bay Area
Posts: 2,161

Bikes: 1981 Holdsworth Special, 1993 C-dale MT3000 & 1996 F700CAD3, 2018 Cervelo R3 & 2022 R5, JustGo Runt, Ridley Oval, Kickr Bike 8-)

Mentioned: 1 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 862 Post(s)
Liked 1,195 Times in 687 Posts
Originally Posted by Retro Grouch
How is your front shift cable routed? I had that once and it turned out to be the shift cable brushing the crank arm.
THIS....

The free end of the Front Derailleur cable was brushing the crank arm as it passed.

I bent the crank arm to miss it ! 8-)

Are you sure the click is in time with the crank position.
Is the timing of the click effected by gear selection?
Can you single leg pedal and attempt to see it it is a pedal?

Last edited by Barry2; 04-27-20 at 12:50 PM. Reason: Getting serious
Barry2 is offline  
Old 04-27-20, 12:50 PM
  #12  
tyrion
Senior Member
 
tyrion's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2015
Location: San Diego, California
Posts: 4,077

Bikes: Velo Orange Piolet

Mentioned: 28 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 2228 Post(s)
Liked 2,011 Times in 972 Posts
Originally Posted by stampz
So...the plot thickens

Just been out for a quick 30miles to try to get to the bottom of it...still no joy...however.

It only happens when I am seated AND holding the handlebars. Let go of the handlebars..stops..stand and pedal...stops. I stopped a couple of times and tweaked the saddle position, I even stopped and undid all the bolts and loosened and retightened the handlebars. No joy :-(

I appreciate everyones comments, but I really dont think it is anything rubbing, or BB or derailer, it just isn't that kind of sound. The only thing I can compare it too is that air bubble pop you get when you crack your fingers, but much fainter...this is ridiculous I know!
Could be the saddle itself.
tyrion is offline  
Likes For tyrion:
Old 04-27-20, 02:18 PM
  #13  
freeranger
Senior Member
 
freeranger's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: Kentucky
Posts: 2,599

Bikes: 06 Lemond Reno, 98 GT Timberline mtn.bike

Mentioned: 8 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 426 Post(s)
Liked 697 Times in 435 Posts
You might try putting a thin coating of grease on the handlebar clamp area and on the bolts, as well as the saddle rails to see if it stops. I'd do one at a time, so if it does work, you'll know whether it was the saddle or bars. I know grease in those areas might not sound right, but neither does a "click".
freeranger is offline  
Old 04-27-20, 02:33 PM
  #14  
Berg417448
Troublemaker
 
Berg417448's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Earth
Posts: 460

Bikes: Yes. The more the better.

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 46 Post(s)
Liked 44 Times in 23 Posts
Every time I have had a noise that went away when I was out of the saddle it turned out to be either the saddle or the seat post.
Berg417448 is offline  
Old 04-27-20, 02:49 PM
  #15  
noglider 
aka Tom Reingold
 
noglider's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: New York, NY, and High Falls, NY, USA
Posts: 40,498

Bikes: 1962 Rudge Sports, 1971 Raleigh Super Course, 1971 Raleigh Pro Track, 1974 Raleigh International, 1975 Viscount Fixie, 1982 McLean, 1996 Lemond (Ti), 2002 Burley Zydeco tandem

Mentioned: 511 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 7345 Post(s)
Liked 2,452 Times in 1,430 Posts
1. Remove all bolts from the stem. 2. Grease them. 3. Grease the surface between the stem and fork. 4. Grease the surface between the handlebar and stem.

5. Remove and grease chainring bolts.

Remove saddle from seatpost and seatpost from bike. 6. Grease the surface between seatpost and frame. 7. Grease the seat's rails. 8. Grease the bolts in the seatpost.

Remove cleats from shoes, if any. 9. Grease surface between cleat and shoe. 10. Grease bolts fixing cleats to shoe.

I know you've done pedals, but do it again. Remove pedals. 11. Grease threads, and install pedals tightly. This is the most common source of this sort of noise.
__________________
Tom Reingold, tom@noglider.com
New York City and High Falls, NY
Blogs: The Experienced Cyclist; noglider's ride blog

“When man invented the bicycle he reached the peak of his attainments.” — Elizabeth West, US author

Please email me rather than PM'ing me. Thanks.
noglider is offline  
Old 04-27-20, 02:50 PM
  #16  
noglider 
aka Tom Reingold
 
noglider's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: New York, NY, and High Falls, NY, USA
Posts: 40,498

Bikes: 1962 Rudge Sports, 1971 Raleigh Super Course, 1971 Raleigh Pro Track, 1974 Raleigh International, 1975 Viscount Fixie, 1982 McLean, 1996 Lemond (Ti), 2002 Burley Zydeco tandem

Mentioned: 511 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 7345 Post(s)
Liked 2,452 Times in 1,430 Posts
Also, could it be the place where the seat rails hits the platform of the seat? I had a seat that squeaked there. I oiled it but the problem never went away. My spouse rides that saddle now, and she loves it. Neither of us notices the noise with the seat on her bike.
__________________
Tom Reingold, tom@noglider.com
New York City and High Falls, NY
Blogs: The Experienced Cyclist; noglider's ride blog

“When man invented the bicycle he reached the peak of his attainments.” — Elizabeth West, US author

Please email me rather than PM'ing me. Thanks.
noglider is offline  
Old 04-27-20, 05:12 PM
  #17  
Ferrouscious 
Some Weirdo
 
Ferrouscious's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2017
Location: Rexburg, ID
Posts: 502

Bikes: '86 Schwinn Prelude, '91 Scott Sawtooth, '73 Raleigh "Grand 3"

Mentioned: 3 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 223 Post(s)
Liked 141 Times in 92 Posts
Tighten the brake levers on the bars.
Tighten the expander plug in the steerer.
Ferrouscious is offline  
Old 04-27-20, 05:24 PM
  #18  
AndreyT
Full Member
 
AndreyT's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: CA
Posts: 495
Mentioned: 1 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 244 Post(s)
Liked 55 Times in 30 Posts
Originally Posted by Ferrouscious
Tighten the expander plug in the steerer.
Loosen the expander plug in the steerer. Even better: remove the top cap entirely to completely unload the expander plug. Ride it and see whether it clicks.
AndreyT is offline  
Old 04-27-20, 05:36 PM
  #19  
grizzly59
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2016
Posts: 712
Mentioned: 2 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 283 Post(s)
Liked 262 Times in 164 Posts
Is the noise there on all chainrings? Look at each tooth of your chainrings for any nicks the chain could click on.
grizzly59 is offline  
Old 04-27-20, 05:38 PM
  #20  
Ferrouscious 
Some Weirdo
 
Ferrouscious's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2017
Location: Rexburg, ID
Posts: 502

Bikes: '86 Schwinn Prelude, '91 Scott Sawtooth, '73 Raleigh "Grand 3"

Mentioned: 3 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 223 Post(s)
Liked 141 Times in 92 Posts
Originally Posted by AndreyT
Loosen the expander plug in the steerer. Even better: remove the top cap entirely to completely unload the expander plug. Ride it and see whether it clicks.
It's a carbon steerer. Bad idea.
__________________
Somewhere, a village is missing its idiot.
Ferrouscious is offline  
Old 04-27-20, 06:05 PM
  #21  
Mad Honk 
Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 2019
Location: Bloomington, IN
Posts: 2,940

Bikes: Paramount, Faggin, Ochsner, Ciocc, Basso

Mentioned: 115 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1301 Post(s)
Liked 1,902 Times in 1,137 Posts
If there are multiple spacers in the head set they may be giving you a slight noise because they are loose. Remove the top cap and the spacers, lubricate them with grease and reassemble. Loosen the clamp on the steerer and reset the headset pre-load, and reassemble. This should fix any clicking noises from the stem/fork juncture. HTH, MH
Mad Honk is offline  
Old 04-28-20, 01:53 AM
  #22  
stampz
Newbie
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Apr 2020
Posts: 21
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 18 Post(s)
Liked 13 Times in 6 Posts
Originally Posted by noglider
Also, could it be the place where the seat rails hits the platform of the seat? I had a seat that squeaked there. I oiled it but the problem never went away. My spouse rides that saddle now, and she loves it. Neither of us notices the noise with the seat on her bike.
Great thanks!

I do have another bike (naturally), its a Boardmam, so I might take the saddle from that and swap and see what happens
stampz is offline  
Old 04-28-20, 02:33 AM
  #23  
Bike Gremlin
Mostly harmless ™
 
Bike Gremlin's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: Novi Sad
Posts: 4,430

Bikes: Heavy, with friction shifters

Mentioned: 22 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1107 Post(s)
Liked 216 Times in 130 Posts
Throwing some random ideas:
Shoelace could be hitting the crank (not very likely, but have had that happen - hollow frame tubes are extraordinarily good at transferring sound).
Bolts on the rear side of the frame might be producing the sound. Loosening those, putting some grease (or, better, some anti-seize), then re-tightening them could do the trick. This is more likely if the bike has a rear rack mounted, otherwise not so much.
Finally - as some have mentioned, saddle clamp (if it can be removed), and seatpost, as well as saddle to seatpost interface and bolts could all do with some paste (for carbon frames use the carbon mounting paste, for metals use anti seize, or grease).

My method of finding and eliminating strange bicycle sounds. More general (generic), but tried to put it as methodically and systematically as possible.
Bike Gremlin is offline  
Old 04-28-20, 03:57 AM
  #24  
Lazyass
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: Minas Ithil
Posts: 9,173
Mentioned: 66 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 2432 Post(s)
Liked 638 Times in 395 Posts
A loose spoke will tick. Might be one on the front wheel that ticks when you put your hands on the bars and add weight to the front. A loose wheel skewer will tick as well, especially on the rear wheel.
Lazyass is offline  
Old 04-28-20, 05:21 AM
  #25  
stampz
Newbie
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Apr 2020
Posts: 21
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 18 Post(s)
Liked 13 Times in 6 Posts
I think I am going to pull out what little hair I have left...I think I have found the problem!

Have got the bike on the trubo trainer and stripped everything off one by one, whilst making my wife crouch on the floor listening at each stage.

Would you believe it...I think its the left pedal!!!!! However, it only seems to happen when I tighten the pedal...have undone it a few turns and it seems to be ok.

Each time I have removed, cleaned and greased, I have always done back up tight...seriously I am fuming!

Now to resemble piece by piece and see what happens
stampz is offline  


Contact Us - Archive - Advertising - Cookie Policy - Privacy Statement - Terms of Service -

Copyright © 2024 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Use of this site indicates your consent to the Terms of Use.