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carleton, good for you. the key word is my post is "cure".... not treatment. Cure means fixed forever! I know it's a pain to do for a month, but think of the YEARS of clear breathing you have ahead of you...statistically speaking that is, all people react differently but like I said, 80% effective.
Post your results in a few months and share what you've learned to help others.
Post your results in a few months and share what you've learned to help others.
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I am glad that you found some relief but sorry that you gave up on honey. As I've stated before, for the honey to become effective, you need to do it for about a month. It is a slow process that actually builds up immunity to the very things you are allergic too, since that is what the honey is made from, pollen.
I would recommend you continue the honey until that jar is empty and you will build up your body to be able to handle the pollen and not depend on anything else for m,any years to come. It certainly worked for me and it's been almost 15 years that I have been allergy free, and many people that have done this very thing are now also allergy free. Statistically, I am guessing, consuming local honey will be an effective cure for allergies to about 80% of the people that do it.
Four tablespoons a day, morning, noon, evening and night in hot water or tea for a month....... allergy free!
I would recommend you continue the honey until that jar is empty and you will build up your body to be able to handle the pollen and not depend on anything else for m,any years to come. It certainly worked for me and it's been almost 15 years that I have been allergy free, and many people that have done this very thing are now also allergy free. Statistically, I am guessing, consuming local honey will be an effective cure for allergies to about 80% of the people that do it.
Four tablespoons a day, morning, noon, evening and night in hot water or tea for a month....... allergy free!
a nutrion specialist had me start eating a good tablespoon of Raw Honey right before bed. Its great for athletes because it gives a steady stream of fuel to the liver to re-stock your glycogen levels while you sleep. This results in deeper sleep and better recovery, and it eliminates waking up in the middle of the night to go to the bathroom...
im also using the honey mixed with milk and yogurt as a post training Carb/Protein recovery shake..
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I'm trying this tonight. I've been sleeping like ass all week so it's worth a shot.
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carleton, I haven't tried the raw honey as allergy relief, but recently I have been hearing form several very different sources of the benefits of local raw honey because it contains the pollen that is causing us the problems. Basically, the honey activates a body response similar to the response to a vaccine.
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Unless that was written with tongue firmly in cheek
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honey is amazing!
a nutrion specialist had me start eating a good tablespoon of Raw Honey right before bed. Its great for athletes because it gives a steady stream of fuel to the liver to re-stock your glycogen levels while you sleep. This results in deeper sleep and better recovery, and it eliminates waking up in the middle of the night to go to the bathroom...
im also using the honey mixed with milk and yogurt as a post training Carb/Protein recovery shake..
a nutrion specialist had me start eating a good tablespoon of Raw Honey right before bed. Its great for athletes because it gives a steady stream of fuel to the liver to re-stock your glycogen levels while you sleep. This results in deeper sleep and better recovery, and it eliminates waking up in the middle of the night to go to the bathroom...
im also using the honey mixed with milk and yogurt as a post training Carb/Protein recovery shake..
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So for fun I took a tablespoon of raw honey and chugged two fairly tall glasses of water right before bed. Wasn't up until 5:30 and was fairly alert when I got up.
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Another good use of honey is to apply to a wound, esp if you are diabetic. It is very sterile and aids in healing, sort of like a Neosporin creme.
People talk about perfect foods, but it's hard to beat honey.
People talk about perfect foods, but it's hard to beat honey.
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I didn't have luck with honey, I had to eat the pollen to get any kind of effect. The first couple of granules I took made me flush, turn red, and generally feel like I was fire - now I eat a spoonful in the morning and am allergy free enough that going outside isn't a disaster. Maybe someone has some insight as to why (the reason I bring it up again) -
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My regimen is antihistamine (zyrtec) and flonase. Antihistamines are weird and work differently for everyone, I'd try a few gen 2s - basically anything but benadryl - before settling on one and then incorporate Flonase into the mix. It takes a few days for it to get into your system but it makes a huge difference for me vs just the zyrtec.
Netipots are also nice, if it's really bad I'll use one a few times a week.
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Netipots are also nice, if it's really bad I'll use one a few times a week.
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My regimen is antihistamine (zyrtec) and flonase. Antihistamines are weird and work differently for everyone, I'd try a few gen 2s - basically anything but benadryl - before settling on one and then incorporate Flonase into the mix. It takes a few days for it to get into your system but it makes a huge difference for me vs just the zyrtec.
Netipots are also nice, if it's really bad I'll use one a few times a week.
1st post? New bike day on the way... I just did my first track clinic and built up a cheapish bike.
Netipots are also nice, if it's really bad I'll use one a few times a week.
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I don't have allergies, but I'm a ****ty sleeper, so I've been trying this honey thing. It's purely anecdotal of course, but I seem to be sleeping longer, feeling more rested, and most noticeably, having a lot more dream activity at night. Of course this could all be placebo effect, but whatever, I'm liking it. Thanks for the tip, Quinn!
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Try magnesium and zinc before you go to bed. Magnesium Citrate 150mg, Zinc Citrate 25mg. Stay away from oxide versions of minerals. Less bioavailability. The amounts required for Mag Oxide tends to work as a mild laxative as well. The Magnesium relaxes muscles, the mag/zinc combo helps with testosterone production. Both will help you sleep better. You should be able to notice a difference within a week. I'm a horrible sleeper, as well as sharing a bed with someone who "runs marathons" in her sleep. Occasionally I'll take melatonin after a really bad week of sleep deprivation, but the mag/zinc combo works really well for me.
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The Neti pots are good to keep sinus infections at bay. Antihistamines basically get your body to stop certain inflammatory responses that are associated with allergic reactions. A runny nose is one of them. The problem with being on an antihistamine for any length of time is that it will stop the runny nose, and dry it out. Any matter that is left in there doesn't get cleared out. This stays behind and can end up going bad on you. The neti pot/sinus rinse helps to keep things moving and clean. Use only sterile water or saline. The other alternative is to lay off the meds for a day or two once a week and let your body's natural reactions help clean out your nose.
I've heard of the honey routine, but have never tried it. I would give it a go. I LOVE honey. My grandpa had an apiary and whenever we would visit I would always get busted with a spoon in my hand while dipping into a 5 Gallon bucket of honey. I think I was about 5 when it last happened.
I also suffer from pollen allergies, specifically grass. Desloratidine worked wonders for me. I found a double dose worked best, but it lasts about 24 hours, so no biggie there. It's a lower dose med as well. Much more "efficient" as far as how much you are taking. Costco sells it in bulk under the Kirkland brand. Really cheap. And don't worry, the bottle isn't huge. It's non-drowsy without any added stimulants as well. Desloratidine doesn't enter the nervous system like many antihistamines do. This is what causes the drowsiness.
Antihistamine tip: If you are male, and suffer from sinus headaches that are related to stress or lack of sleep try taking a Benadryl. Unless it's migraines, most males tend not to suffer from headaches the way females do. When the headaches do come, it's usually related to a lack of sleep. In situations of chronic fatigue/stress, the body will release histamines to counter the low level inflammatory response that sets in. The headache feels like it's right between and behind your eyes. Benadryl will make you drowsy and knock you out (solving the root problem), and take care of those pesky histamines that are giving you your headache. Two birds with one pill (or maybe 2 if you want to sleep for a longer time). You will wake up foggy, but your headache will be gone and you can get yourself back on a proper sleep routine.
I've heard of the honey routine, but have never tried it. I would give it a go. I LOVE honey. My grandpa had an apiary and whenever we would visit I would always get busted with a spoon in my hand while dipping into a 5 Gallon bucket of honey. I think I was about 5 when it last happened.
I also suffer from pollen allergies, specifically grass. Desloratidine worked wonders for me. I found a double dose worked best, but it lasts about 24 hours, so no biggie there. It's a lower dose med as well. Much more "efficient" as far as how much you are taking. Costco sells it in bulk under the Kirkland brand. Really cheap. And don't worry, the bottle isn't huge. It's non-drowsy without any added stimulants as well. Desloratidine doesn't enter the nervous system like many antihistamines do. This is what causes the drowsiness.
Antihistamine tip: If you are male, and suffer from sinus headaches that are related to stress or lack of sleep try taking a Benadryl. Unless it's migraines, most males tend not to suffer from headaches the way females do. When the headaches do come, it's usually related to a lack of sleep. In situations of chronic fatigue/stress, the body will release histamines to counter the low level inflammatory response that sets in. The headache feels like it's right between and behind your eyes. Benadryl will make you drowsy and knock you out (solving the root problem), and take care of those pesky histamines that are giving you your headache. Two birds with one pill (or maybe 2 if you want to sleep for a longer time). You will wake up foggy, but your headache will be gone and you can get yourself back on a proper sleep routine.
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I'm not concerned about the Benadryl as I don't take it all that often. The same small bottle has lasted me over three years. When the allergies hit I stick with Desloratidine. I've only come to use Benadryl to counteract histamine headaches, or 1 pill in conjunction with a Desloratidine pill when I first need to take antihistamines at the beginning of allergy season. Since I moved from the east of the continent to the west, I find I rarely suffer from my allergies anymore. They only bug me when I go visit my parents during the season that affects me.
As far as something increasing your risk for developing conditions in the future, I don't really worry about that. I don't take much of anything when it comes to meds, preferring to avoid them when I can. In the end something will get to me or kill me, so I'm just going to live life as I see fit now.
As far as something increasing your risk for developing conditions in the future, I don't really worry about that. I don't take much of anything when it comes to meds, preferring to avoid them when I can. In the end something will get to me or kill me, so I'm just going to live life as I see fit now.