More bad news involving cyclist/SUV encounter
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More bad news involving cyclist/SUV encounter
From the local paper:
An off-duty Louisville Metro Police officer — described by colleagues as a man devoted to his family — was killed Thursday while cycling near his home in Spencer County.
Officer Paul Pegram, 40, was an eight-year veteran of the department and served in the former Jefferson County Police before city-county merger, according to officers who knew him.
Pegram was struck about 9:45 a.m. by a vehicle on Briar Ridge Road roughly five miles east of Taylorsville and about a mile from the entrance to Taylorsville Lake State Park, said police spokesman Dwight Mitchell.
He had stopped and was off his bicycle when a westbound Hyundai SUV driven by Daryl M. Fogle, 37, of Mount Eden, struck him from behind, according to Mitchell and the Kentucky State Police.
The entire article may be found here: https://www.courier-journal.com/artic...+while+cycling
If I've identified the location correctly, this might have been on the course of this year's Masters Natz TTs.
Every time I got passed today I cringed, although no one came within five feet of me. It has gotten a lot of local attention, partly because he apparently was a very nice guy (even though I don't guess it should have made a difference if he were a jerk), and partly because it involved a policeman.
I suspect if the driver was impaired or negligent she will not get the usual slap on the wrist. One can always hope.
An off-duty Louisville Metro Police officer — described by colleagues as a man devoted to his family — was killed Thursday while cycling near his home in Spencer County.
Officer Paul Pegram, 40, was an eight-year veteran of the department and served in the former Jefferson County Police before city-county merger, according to officers who knew him.
Pegram was struck about 9:45 a.m. by a vehicle on Briar Ridge Road roughly five miles east of Taylorsville and about a mile from the entrance to Taylorsville Lake State Park, said police spokesman Dwight Mitchell.
He had stopped and was off his bicycle when a westbound Hyundai SUV driven by Daryl M. Fogle, 37, of Mount Eden, struck him from behind, according to Mitchell and the Kentucky State Police.
The entire article may be found here: https://www.courier-journal.com/artic...+while+cycling
If I've identified the location correctly, this might have been on the course of this year's Masters Natz TTs.
Every time I got passed today I cringed, although no one came within five feet of me. It has gotten a lot of local attention, partly because he apparently was a very nice guy (even though I don't guess it should have made a difference if he were a jerk), and partly because it involved a policeman.
I suspect if the driver was impaired or negligent she will not get the usual slap on the wrist. One can always hope.
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... It has gotten a lot of local attention, partly because he apparently was a very nice guy (even though I don't guess it should have made a difference if he were a jerk), and partly because it involved a policeman.
I suspect if the driver was impaired or negligent she will not get the usual slap on the wrist. One can always hope.
I suspect if the driver was impaired or negligent she will not get the usual slap on the wrist. One can always hope.
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Sadly to say, there is no end in sight. Unless, and that is a big unless too, the police start STRICT ENFORCEMENT of safety rules towards bicycles, and dishing out TOUGH SENTENCES for drivers that break bike safety rules.
Until they start those two, the end is nowhere in sight. We will have to live with it, or stop riding. The latter is not an option for me.
Again, RIP to a brave young officer.
Until they start those two, the end is nowhere in sight. We will have to live with it, or stop riding. The latter is not an option for me.
Again, RIP to a brave young officer.
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Sadly to say, there is no end in sight. Unless, and that is a big unless too, the police start STRICT ENFORCEMENT of safety rules towards bicycles, and dishing out TOUGH SENTENCES for drivers that break bike safety rules.
Until they start those two, the end is nowhere in sight. We will have to live with it, or stop riding. The latter is not an option for me.
Again, RIP to a brave young officer.
Until they start those two, the end is nowhere in sight. We will have to live with it, or stop riding. The latter is not an option for me.
Again, RIP to a brave young officer.
Accomplishing the above is an almost impossible task.
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I have stopped riding some of the routes that I was riding from close calls with people on cell phones and some just will not move over.here we have a 3 foot law but that is a joke.I have never heard of any one getting ticked for not obeying it.
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How sad. The officer was not cycling when he was hit - he was off his bike and a pedestrian.
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Highway deaths are a bigger problem than cycling. I wanted to approach it as a cycling problem, but if you take a look at the number of deaths each year on the highways you will find that cycling injuries/deaths are hardly noticeable.
In our small rural state we have 600 highway deaths per year. SIX HUNDRED. Each Monday morning I check the newspaper to find 3 or 4 or 5 or more persons were killed in auto accidents. It seems to never end and these deaths are written up in a small section of the paper and never heard of again.
We can try to make changes concerning cycling deaths, but we are fighting a whole army with a pea shooter.
In our small rural state we have 600 highway deaths per year. SIX HUNDRED. Each Monday morning I check the newspaper to find 3 or 4 or 5 or more persons were killed in auto accidents. It seems to never end and these deaths are written up in a small section of the paper and never heard of again.
We can try to make changes concerning cycling deaths, but we are fighting a whole army with a pea shooter.
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We don't need special laws just for cyclists, we need laws enforced that hold people accountable across the board, no matter what the form of transportation. There are people hit and killed while in motor vehicles that brings no charges.
The article does not say whether the rider was on the roadway or a shoulder. When you stop, get off the road. I see cyclists do this a lot. Drivers need to pay attention, but let's reduce our chances.
The article does not say whether the rider was on the roadway or a shoulder. When you stop, get off the road. I see cyclists do this a lot. Drivers need to pay attention, but let's reduce our chances.
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Highway deaths are a bigger problem than cycling. I wanted to approach it as a cycling problem, but if you take a look at the number of deaths each year on the highways you will find that cycling injuries/deaths are hardly noticeable.
In our small rural state we have 600 highway deaths per year. SIX HUNDRED. Each Monday morning I check the newspaper to find 3 or 4 or 5 or more persons were killed in auto accidents. It seems to never end and these deaths are written up in a small section of the paper and never heard of again.
We can try to make changes concerning cycling deaths, but we are fighting a whole army with a pea shooter.
In our small rural state we have 600 highway deaths per year. SIX HUNDRED. Each Monday morning I check the newspaper to find 3 or 4 or 5 or more persons were killed in auto accidents. It seems to never end and these deaths are written up in a small section of the paper and never heard of again.
We can try to make changes concerning cycling deaths, but we are fighting a whole army with a pea shooter.
Interestingly enough, every year we have massive campaigns about lightning safety in Colorado - TV, newspaper, etc., etc. Yet, there are only a few folks killed by lightning each year (both in CO and the US of A) - far, far less than the number of bicyclists killed by cars, the number of pedestrians killed by cars, or the number of motorists killed by cars. Why is that? Why does lightning get so much attention from the press, but right hooks are never mentioned, nor tail gaiting, hardly even drunken driving?
Summer is the peak season for severe weather. In the United States, on average, approximately 60 people are killed each year by lightning.
https://cbs4denver.com/weatherupdates...2.1056281.html
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This is an entertainment program and no source was mentioned as I recall. May be incorrect but it sounds about right.
I met a guy at a neighborhood party and I had seen this individual riding his bike past my house on several occasions. Always helmet-less.
I asked him why he didn't wear one. His reply (which I found to miss the point) was that he felt all safety equipment did was promote riskier behavior.
When I asked for an example he cited air bags in cars as a prime example. He thought that if you really wanted to make people drive cautiously there would be a spike that came out of the steering wheel rather than an air pillow.
No this was not chipcom.
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We recently passed a three-foot passing/no-harassment of cyclists law here in Louisiana. I'm willing to bet that most motorists don't know about the law, so I wonder what good does it really do? Shortly after passage of the law a motorist driving an SUV struck a cyclist from behind on River Road and left him unconscious in a water-filled ditch. The cyclist was a PhD student and member of the LSU Cycling Team. Thankfully, he was discovered (by other cyclists) and the motorist (a local sports bar/restaurant manager who was driving with a suspended license) was eventually arrested. The cyclist will recover - that's the most important part. I don't know if the motorist is free on bail or not. If he's free, he may still be driving - and menacing other cyclists.
Until motorists take laws seriously and stop driving while texting, drunk or otherwise impaired/distracted, I don't expect the situation to improve. The cops and the courts can only do so much.
Until motorists take laws seriously and stop driving while texting, drunk or otherwise impaired/distracted, I don't expect the situation to improve. The cops and the courts can only do so much.
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UIntil the country as a whole gets serious about outlawing cell phones etc while driving deaths cause by negligent drivers will keep increasing. The reason there is no out cry is simple. Everyone does it and thinks it doesn't effect their driving. Wrong same as drinking while driving . Next time you are on the road just watch and see the number of jerks using a cell phone while driving. Epademic to say the least.
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I don't think the cell phone and texting laws are going to do much to solve the problem. It is a problem caused by misuse of technology and I think it will require a technological solution. Make the phones incapable of being operated by someone driving a car.
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We recently passed a three-foot passing/no-harassment of cyclists law here in Louisiana. I'm willing to bet that most motorists don't know about the law, so I wonder what good does it really do? Shortly after passage of the law a motorist driving an SUV struck a cyclist from behind on River Road and left him unconscious in a water-filled ditch. The cyclist was a PhD student and member of the LSU Cycling Team. Thankfully, he was discovered (by other cyclists) and the motorist (a local sports bar/restaurant manager who was driving with a suspended license) was eventually arrested. The cyclist will recover - that's the most important part. I don't know if the motorist is free on bail or not. If he's free, he may still be driving - and menacing other cyclists.
Until motorists take laws seriously and stop driving while texting, drunk or otherwise impaired/distracted, I don't expect the situation to improve. The cops and the courts can only do so much.
Until motorists take laws seriously and stop driving while texting, drunk or otherwise impaired/distracted, I don't expect the situation to improve. The cops and the courts can only do so much.
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No, it's a problem of an uncaring attitude toward the damage a car can cause. There are still plenty of drivers out there distracted by food, shaving, etc.
What we need is a much tougher driving test, and a court system that's willing to actually take the license away and require that the entire test be retaken at the end of the suspension period. If people had to demonstrate such skills as panic stopping on wet pavement, skid control, and dealing with unexpected obstacles at highway speeds, a lot of them wouldn't pass at all, and most would be terrified of doing anything that might result in them having to do it again.
What we need is a much tougher driving test, and a court system that's willing to actually take the license away and require that the entire test be retaken at the end of the suspension period. If people had to demonstrate such skills as panic stopping on wet pavement, skid control, and dealing with unexpected obstacles at highway speeds, a lot of them wouldn't pass at all, and most would be terrified of doing anything that might result in them having to do it again.
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No, it's a problem of an uncaring attitude toward the damage a car can cause. There are still plenty of drivers out there distracted by food, shaving, etc.
What we need is a much tougher driving test, and a court system that's willing to actually take the license away and require that the entire test be retaken at the end of the suspension period. If people had to demonstrate such skills as panic stopping on wet pavement, skid control, and dealing with unexpected obstacles at highway speeds, a lot of them wouldn't pass at all, and most would be terrified of doing anything that might result in them having to do it again.
What we need is a much tougher driving test, and a court system that's willing to actually take the license away and require that the entire test be retaken at the end of the suspension period. If people had to demonstrate such skills as panic stopping on wet pavement, skid control, and dealing with unexpected obstacles at highway speeds, a lot of them wouldn't pass at all, and most would be terrified of doing anything that might result in them having to do it again.
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I do believe the number of highway deaths per year in the USA were hgiher a few decades ago when there were no cell phones. It is just the excuse of the day for poor driving.
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From the local paper:
An off-duty Louisville Metro Police officer — described by colleagues as a man devoted to his family — was killed Thursday while cycling near his home in Spencer County.
Officer Paul Pegram, 40, was an eight-year veteran of the department and served in the former Jefferson County Police before city-county merger, according to officers who knew him.
Pegram was struck about 9:45 a.m. by a vehicle on Briar Ridge Road roughly five miles east of Taylorsville and about a mile from the entrance to Taylorsville Lake State Park, said police spokesman Dwight Mitchell.
He had stopped and was off his bicycle when a westbound Hyundai SUV driven by Daryl M. Fogle, 37, of Mount Eden, struck him from behind, according to Mitchell and the Kentucky State Police.
The entire article may be found here: https://www.courier-journal.com/artic...+while+cycling
If I've identified the location correctly, this might have been on the course of this year's Masters Natz TTs.
Every time I got passed today I cringed, although no one came within five feet of me. It has gotten a lot of local attention, partly because he apparently was a very nice guy (even though I don't guess it should have made a difference if he were a jerk), and partly because it involved a policeman.
I suspect if the driver was impaired or negligent she will not get the usual slap on the wrist. One can always hope.
An off-duty Louisville Metro Police officer — described by colleagues as a man devoted to his family — was killed Thursday while cycling near his home in Spencer County.
Officer Paul Pegram, 40, was an eight-year veteran of the department and served in the former Jefferson County Police before city-county merger, according to officers who knew him.
Pegram was struck about 9:45 a.m. by a vehicle on Briar Ridge Road roughly five miles east of Taylorsville and about a mile from the entrance to Taylorsville Lake State Park, said police spokesman Dwight Mitchell.
He had stopped and was off his bicycle when a westbound Hyundai SUV driven by Daryl M. Fogle, 37, of Mount Eden, struck him from behind, according to Mitchell and the Kentucky State Police.
The entire article may be found here: https://www.courier-journal.com/artic...+while+cycling
If I've identified the location correctly, this might have been on the course of this year's Masters Natz TTs.
Every time I got passed today I cringed, although no one came within five feet of me. It has gotten a lot of local attention, partly because he apparently was a very nice guy (even though I don't guess it should have made a difference if he were a jerk), and partly because it involved a policeman.
I suspect if the driver was impaired or negligent she will not get the usual slap on the wrist. One can always hope.
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