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Old 02-02-21, 02:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Velo Vol
There's now thousands of sequences of people who have RA, for example. Fire up those supercomputers and ID the common traits!
You should assume this is happening as we speak. But it's not just thousands of people with RA that you need. You need thousands of controls without it. Even then, needle in a needle stack.
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Originally Posted by Velo Vol
There's now thousands of sequences of people who have RA, for example. Fire up those supercomputers and ID the common traits!
That's been done over and over, I assume. What one comes up with in such an effort is a bunch of genetic variations with varying degrees of statistical association with the disease. I don't know the RA genetics literature, but I assume some of these associations have yielded important mechanistic insights into the causation of the disease and provided leads for novel treatments, the most promising of which are in various stages of investigation or development. There are no silver bullets for so-called polygenic diseases.
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Originally Posted by MoAlpha
That's been done over and over, I assume. What one comes up with in such an effort is a bunch of genetic variations with varying degrees of statistical association with the disease. I don't know the RA genetics literature, but I assume some of these associations have yielded important mechanistic insights into the causation of the disease and provided leads for novel treatments, the most promising of which are in various stages of investigation or development. There are no silver bullets for so-called polygenic diseases.
And then there's the question of gene expression, which can't be answered by sequencing the genome, and epigenetics, which ALSO can't be answered by sequencing the genome.
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Originally Posted by genejockey
Also, I believe he was asking datlas about sequencing patient's genomes, not viral. But it was yesterday, and time keeps on slippin', slippin', slippin'....into the future.
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Nope.
A-ha, correct you are.
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Originally Posted by datlas
Quote shortened to save internets. But maybe it's just the wall switch??
if you can, just pour a small amount of gasoline directly into the carb. Then start as if everything is normal. It should fire up, run a second or 2 and die, If its a fuel issue.
If it won't start at all its likely an ignition issue.
Best case, when you prime it with fuel in the carb it will self prime after that and continue to run normally.

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I love it when you guys talk science!
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Originally Posted by genejockey
They're doing that. It's how we know when the new variants arrive, because they're serologically identical.
The US ranks 43rd in percentage of COVID cases sequenced. Sad.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world...heck-variants/

Interestingly enough, I think we're still ranked 43rd for infant mortality rate also.
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Originally Posted by genejockey
You should assume this is happening as we speak. But it's not just thousands of people with RA that you need. You need thousands of controls without it. Even then, needle in a needle stack.
Am I going to have to figure this out, once I get my handlebars wrapped?
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If you want a job done right, you got to do it yourself.
Correct.
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I don't know the RA genetics literature, but I assume some of these associations have yielded important mechanistic insights into the causation of the disease and provided leads for novel treatments, the most promising of which are in various stages of investigation or development. There are no silver bullets for so-called polygenic diseases.
Nope. Every once in a while a new drug gets released, which maybe offers marginal benefit for 20% of patients over existing ones. Until that drug stops working for them, too. Rinse, repeat.
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Originally Posted by LesterOfPuppets
The US ranks 43rd in percentage of COVID cases sequenced. Sad.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world...heck-variants/

Interestingly enough, I think we're still ranked 43rd for infant mortality rate also.
I cannot tell you how embarrassing it is to be in Biotech in the US, which SHOULD BE the best in the world, and to have lagged SO BADLY in testing, and now to learn we're so far behind in viral genome sequencing as well.
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Originally Posted by Velo Vol
Am I going to have to figure this out, once I get my handlebars wrapped?
Knock yourself out.
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Originally Posted by Velo Vol
Nope. Every once in a while a new drug gets released, which maybe offers marginal benefit for 20% of patients over existing ones. Until that drug stops working for them, too. Rinse, repeat.

You're welcome.
Based on what I've been learning the last year or so, the promise of individualized medicine is just that at the moment - a promise. You need to look at large sample sets, because responses are so variable, and you need to be looking in the right place. If you sample set is too small, you can get misled by apparent correlations that don't pan out in larger datasets, and if you're not looking in the right place, you won't see where the real correlates of response are.
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Dads out if surgery and in his room recovering. They were able to open up 2 of 3 stents. Thats all the info I could get from Mom. Good enough for now. Thanks for the prayers and positive vibes everyone.
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Originally Posted by Velo Vol
O.7 inches yesterday. One inch above schedule. #EndlessWinter
Brutal.

Did you stock up on essentials before the storm?
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Brutal.

Did you stock up on essentials before the storm?
I can give you a good deal on paper towels that don't fit a standard paper towel holder.
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I cannot tell you how embarrassing it is to be in Biotech in the US, which SHOULD BE the best in the world, and to have lagged SO BADLY in testing, and now to learn we're so far behind in viral genome sequencing as well.
We're also not nearly as good as we should be in terms of aggregate clinical outcomes. We get what our system is designed to provide.
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Originally Posted by rjones28
I did, however, get in a couple of hours of snow management today. Running a snow blower in deep snow is surprisingly physical. Some shoveling required. Also, snowshoed some trails for walks with Benson -- snow in the yard is up to her shoulders.
Every 3 hours I was out there yesterday to keep up with the storm, using an electric snowblower which I can push back up the hill. It works well on 2 - 5 inches of snow. Exhausted today, though.
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I can give you a good deal on paper towels that don't fit a standard paper towel holder.
Vol might need it, he's prolly socked in.
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Vol might need it, he's prolly socked in.
If he can't get out to get them, I don't imagine UPS can get in to get them to him.
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If he can't get out to get them, I don't imagine UPS can get in to get them to him.
Hard to imagine anyone getting out with 3/4 inch of snow.
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Hard to imagine anyone getting out with 3/4 inch of snow.
You laugh, but picture the bloodbath on LA or SF freeways with 3/4 of an inch of snow.
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Dads out if surgery and in his room recovering. They were able to open up 2 of 3 stents. Thats all the info I could get from Mom. Good enough for now. Thanks for the prayers and positive vibes everyone.
Great news! Hope he continues to do better!
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You laugh, but picture the bloodbath on LA or SF freeways with 3/4 of an inch of snow.
Or our nation’s capitol capital for that matter. My saving grace is my commute being at 5:30 am and 4:00 pm. Have I have to be on the roads during “regular” commute, I think I’d be suicidal after 5 minutes of sharing the road with everyone who think they’re out on the glaciers of Iceland, trying to drive a sports cars with slick tires.

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You laugh, but picture the bloodbath on LA or SF freeways with 3/4 of an inch of snow.
It's bad enough when ti rains.

On a different note, 3 of us got out for a nice ride today. It warmed back up to the 60s and there was just a little headwind on the return trip. We ride past Vasquez rocks, a tourist attraction where movies are shot. My dad took me and my sisters there when we were kids.

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Originally Posted by big john
It's bad enough when ti rains.

On a different note, 3 of us got out for a nice ride today. It warmed back up to the 60s and there was just a little headwind on the return trip. We ride past Vasquez rocks, a tourist attraction where movies are shot. My dad took me and my sisters there when we were kids.

I swear, I can see Jim Kirk trying to kill the Gorn from the top of those!
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I swear, I can see Jim Kirk trying to kill the Gorn from the top of those!
They did the Flintstones movie there.
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Dads out if surgery and in his room recovering. They were able to open up 2 of 3 stents. Thats all the info I could get from Mom. Good enough for now. Thanks for the prayers and positive vibes everyone.

Thats great!
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