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Old 08-26-19, 05:34 PM
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1984 Peugeot PH10L Makeover

I just completed a restoration/makeover on a vintage 1984 Peugeot PH10L.
It's a mid-level bike with decent components and a really great ride. Here is the screenshot from the catalog:



Photo from original (US) catalog
https://www.bikeboompeugeot.com/Broc...20Brochure.htm


And here's a picture of my bike before the makeover:


My bike - Before
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The original decals were in bad shape and wouldn't come off... even with alcohol and acetone!
I ended up having to sand them off.



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The concept was a very un-ambitious touch up...so I just taped up the headset and bottom bracket.
(Very amateurish I know but the bottom bracket seemed ok and trying to extract a stuck bottom bracket ruins my day
- this is supposed to be a relaxing hobby!):



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...Then I applied the decals. This was fun:





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... And then re-assembly:
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And then finally... a finished bike:















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I like the matte black look the finished product looks sharp - how does it ride? I may have to deduct points for lack of BB or Head Set removal/maintenance its not all that hard and there are plenty of helpful tips on the web and on this forum. With time patience and some beer you too can over come your BB phobia.
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Thanks for the input ryansu.
The matte black was done by de-glossing the paint with 0000 steel wool.

The bike rides great!
Gear alignment, shifting smoothness and accuracy are unusually precise - especially for a bike that is 35 years old!
(Of course I did a full service on the derailleurs and shifters - including new cables and cable housing)

I did actually improve my skill a bit along the way.
While working on my more cherished 1988 Peugeot Versailles, I did remove bottom bracket and headset (although admittedly the bottom bracket was a cartridge type)
Also, instead of rattle can - this one was sent to powder coating


1988 Peugeot Versailles


Dis-assembly


Removal of headset


Original Cartridge Bottom Bracket 118.5 / Replacement Cartridge Bottom Bracket 118


Re-installation of headset / DIY headset cup press


Re-installation of bottom bracket


Ready for final graphics / components
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Cool! I like how it turned out.
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I had a carbolite103 Peugeot PH10LE 58cm.
I was about 210 lbs at the time and thought the frame was a bit whippy for hard efforts. I would agree that the bike handled acceptably well, and made for a good all-round performer while not excelling in any 1 category. Not sure of the weight reduction achieved thru the ‘internal brazing’ process but the bike felt lightweight given it’s mid-range tubeset.

Nice job on the refurb.
Enjoy.
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Really nice job on the paint. But get ya some Park cable cutters and take about three feet off the brake cables/housing. The bit leading to the rear brake should be a perfect, simple arc to the rear caliper. Sheldon can tell you more...
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Subscribed. Nice work!

I also have a 1988 Peugeot Versailles and am going to be doing a little light cleanup and changing out the cartridge. Did you need any special tools to get the original cartridge out? I noticed you have the Bike Hands YC-26BB for the re-installation...can I ask what brand cartridge you chose to replace the original?

Thanks for any replies and input, its not often you come across someone working on the exact same Peugeot. Its been difficult finding detailed tech specs on some Peugeot's and am glad I found this thread. I appreciate any advice.

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I ride an '84 PH10LE that I bought new. The ride and handling are second to none. You're gonna' like it.
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Please note that even with their most basic bikes like the PH10, Peugeot was nice and wise enough to clearcoat over their frame decals in the 80's. So no, the will not come off unless you sand them off with the clearcoat.
I don't remember though, if they clearcoated over the Carbolite 103 decals too.....
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Rebuilt this one to be the yard sale bike last spring (sorry about the non-drive side photo). It's now back with my nephew for college as he was a little upset my brother had given it to me. It was a great riding bike.

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@scozim, nice looking bike, shame you no longer have it. Wondering if you can identify the white splotch directly behind the bottom bracket. Is that a decal, if so what does it say? I ask because the same area on my 1985 PH10LS has been scrapped off and I would like to replace with what was once there. Thanks!
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@scozim, nice looking bike, shame you no longer have it. Wondering if you can identify the white splotch directly behind the bottom bracket. Is that a decal, if so what does it say? I ask because the same area on my 1985 PH10LS has been scrapped off and I would like to replace with what was once there. Thanks!
That was the model info for the bike from what I remember including the frame size
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Originally Posted by m3tal070
Subscribed. Nice work!

I also have a 1988 Peugeot Versailles and am going to be doing a little light cleanup and changing out the cartridge. Did you need any special tools to get the original cartridge out? I noticed you have the Bike Hands YC-26BB for the re-installation...can I ask what brand cartridge you chose to replace the original?

Thanks for any replies and input, its not often you come across someone working on the exact same Peugeot. Its been difficult finding detailed tech specs on some Peugeot's and am glad I found this thread. I appreciate any advice.

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I'm quite attached to the Versailles. It was just a few hours away from a scrap heap grave when I rescued it.
The rear triangle had been fractured and the entire bike was left out on the street for trash pick up. I took it in, found a frame welder in Brooklyn and then serviced it to riding condition.

The tool used to remove the original bottom bracket is the Park BBT-4
I measured the original BB spindle to be 118.5mm
The closest I could find in a decent replacement square taper is the Shimano UN55 at 68 x 118mm
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Here's mine from years ago
'84 PH10LE
Liked the ride, handled well.
Again, at 210# (years ago) = I flexed the 58cm frame a bunch under power.



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Looks great!

Hi, just curious if you used any particular brand/type of paint?

Do you recall the source for your decals?

I'm planning a similar remodel on a PH10L

Thanks!
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Hi
For my bike I painted with Rustoleum professional black enamel gloss.
I then de-glossed using superfine steel wool grade #0000
There are plenty of decal sets at the bay auction site. You can simply search for
Peugeot decals
I might have ended up using decals from two different sources. Have fun!

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I now recall I also used a matte clear spray enamel to top everything off... after the painting, the steel wool, and the decals.
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Pps
Note that you can still get a replica original decal set on the bay site. There's a guy in the UK that does fabulous work with decal replicas.
I wasn't a big fan of the original dark blue against the black however.
( it's a strange color scheme that never quite made aesthetic sense to me )
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Peugeot saved a lot of weight with their lugless brazing, and had what I consider a very good recipe for their frame's geometry.

The result was higher-performing bikes at lower cost. Even their lower mid-level bikes were a sprightly hoot to ride in sporting fashion if the rider wasn't too big and aggressive.
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Originally Posted by djordan
Thanks for the input ryansu.
The matte black was done by de-glossing the paint with 0000 steel wool.

The bike rides great!
Gear alignment, shifting smoothness and accuracy are unusually precise - especially for a bike that is 35 years old!
(Of course I did a full service on the derailleurs and shifters - including new cables and cable housing)

I did actually improve my skill a bit along the way.
While working on my more cherished 1988 Peugeot Versailles, I did remove bottom bracket and headset (although admittedly the bottom bracket was a cartridge type)
Also, instead of rattle can - this one was sent to powder coating

1988 Peugeot Versailles
djordan — I recently picked up a Peugeot Versailles identical to the one you pictured in post #8 above for very cheap. But…not even restored…it’s in pretty much immaculate condition. No chips or scratches in the paint. No rust. And the components are working really well. It was rideable. I think it had just been sitting in the seller’s storeroom for years. I got it to keep at my Florida vacation home so that I have a bike when I’m there. Eventually, I want to upgrade from six gears (freewheel), to a seven or more cassette (shifters/wheel too). But I also want to replace the old-school bottom bracket with a cartridge. Can you give me info on what you used with regard to thread standards, French/Italian??? And perhaps the part/serial number of the actual one you installed? Thanks. — Dan
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