New Ultegra 6800 or used (800 miles) 6700...Big Difference?
10-16-14, 09:49 AM
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New Ultegra 6800 or used (800 miles) 6700...Big Difference?
Looking to upgrade my current drivetrain and need to find a good deal as I am not swimming in cash. My options are a slightly used Ultegra 6700 10spd groupset for $550 or a brand new 6800 11spd groupset for $750. Is there a big difference between the 2? Really worth the extra money for being brand new and 1 extra gear?
10-16-14, 09:52 AM
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6800 shifting is quite a bit better, especially the front. I'd definitely go new. Check your wheels are compatible though.
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Shimano's first go at internal cable routing had issues. I'd skip Ultegra 6700, and Dura Ace 7900.
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You can get 6800 for less than that. Is your current group starting to fail? And what are you coming from? If you have 5700 already, paying $550 for 6700 is pointless.
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You can get full 6800 set up with everything for less than that? I am coming from 105 levers that need replacement from a wreck, 105 rd, tiagra fd and stock Bianchi reparto corse brakes as well as an fsa crankset that feels like its made of iron
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Check out Ribble. In your shoes, I'd consider 5800 and leave a cog off the rear wheel (for now).
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That's an 8/9/10 freehub, so an 11 cannot be made to fit.
You would have to buy a 5800 or 6800 hub and build it to a 3rd party rim. You can't buy the straight pull hubs with the low spoke count directly. (maybe as a replacement part?)
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Most people forget the wheel costs when weighing whether or not to go with 11 speed.
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Does anyone know about Oval 527 wheels? The seller mentioned he has them for sale for $80 new off of a Fuji and it's already set up for an 11spd. The groupset would also have Oval crankset
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I think the Oval 527 wheelset would be a pretty big downgrade from RS80. (But $80 for a back-up set isn't bad at all.)
Yes, 5800 is the new 105 11-speed group (available for under $500). BUT - people have had success running 10 of the 11 cassette cogs with 5800/6800/9000 on rear wheels that don't accept 11 gears. I'd have to search for those threads, but they are here. Might be a temp solution...
Or if that sounds too mis-mash, a full new 4600 group is $300. Also, the newest 6800 cables make the 5700/6700 shifters work a bit more smoothly.
Yes, 5800 is the new 105 11-speed group (available for under $500). BUT - people have had success running 10 of the 11 cassette cogs with 5800/6800/9000 on rear wheels that don't accept 11 gears. I'd have to search for those threads, but they are here. Might be a temp solution...
Or if that sounds too mis-mash, a full new 4600 group is $300. Also, the newest 6800 cables make the 5700/6700 shifters work a bit more smoothly.
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10-16-14, 11:00 AM
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I think you will come out better if you buy from Ribble if you are looking for a full group.
5800 = $427
6800= $624
That is for the full group, you still have the issue with wheels though. IMO you can get a set of RS21 wheels for for about $200 and be fine.
edit: you can also get a nice price on 11 speed ready Vuelta wheels at Nashbar and still come out Cheaper than $750 if you go 5800 and Vueltas.
5800 = $427
6800= $624
That is for the full group, you still have the issue with wheels though. IMO you can get a set of RS21 wheels for for about $200 and be fine.
edit: you can also get a nice price on 11 speed ready Vuelta wheels at Nashbar and still come out Cheaper than $750 if you go 5800 and Vueltas.
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I think you will come out better if you buy from Ribble if you are looking for a full group.
5800 = $427
6800= $624
That is for the full group, you still have the issue with wheels though. IMO you can get a set of RS21 wheels for for about $200 and be fine.
edit: you can also get a nice price on 11 speed ready Vuelta wheels at Nashbar and still come out Cheaper than $750 if you go 5800 and Vueltas.
5800 = $427
6800= $624
That is for the full group, you still have the issue with wheels though. IMO you can get a set of RS21 wheels for for about $200 and be fine.
edit: you can also get a nice price on 11 speed ready Vuelta wheels at Nashbar and still come out Cheaper than $750 if you go 5800 and Vueltas.
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Looks like they only have silver 5800 right now, but 6800 is back in stock.
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Yeah, I'd heard that works from a few sources. Please tell us more. What cassette, which cog did you leave out, did you need a different lockring or spacers, any other issues getting it set up, etc.
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...and choose the destination. Or just send me $700 and I'll take care of if for you.
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The setup works so good I have no plans to ever change it.
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Did you have 5700 or 6700 before? Is this better overall? Is the 11-13 gap annoying? (I don't think I'd go below the 13 anyway)
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I guess so!! Thanks for the additional info - great option for lots of "groupset shoppers" out there (like the OP) with nice 10-speed wheels.
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