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Old 09-28-19, 03:29 PM
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I got the levers and tubes.
Would a pair of black Conti Gran Prix 700/25 be good enough?
How wide of an 8 speed cassette? 28t big sprocket or 30+?
Last but not least, is this a casual acquaintance or a potential "riding" partner? If it is the 2nd, we might need some juicy details.
How about the black Conti Gran Prix? I have a set new still in the boxes. If those will work, I'll send those, the tire levers and the tubes your way.
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Why do you always go off on these escapades when I'm in the south of France?
You're not around to stop him?
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I'm sending some Park levers instead. I remember the Pedro levers don't work well for me. The edges are too thick and don't dig under the bead well.
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I'm sending some Park levers instead. I remember the Pedro levers don't work well for me. The edges are too thick and don't dig under the bead well.
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Check out my story in the "Why do we help each other" thread. It might bring back some memories for you since you spent some time there. The young man actually lives in housing at Fort Story.
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Why do you always go off on these escapades when I'm in the south of France?
We own our escapades, eh?
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Old 09-30-19, 07:53 AM
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54cm red/white IM on the Ebay Craigslist finds threads. White ST and head tube which makes it an 85, correct? Listed for $120 on Seattle FB Market place.

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace...8776333834193/

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54cm red/white IM on the Ebay Craigslist finds threads. White ST and head tube which makes it an 85, correct? Listed for $120 on Seattle FB Market place.

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace...8776333834193/
Since I clicked on that, all my FB marketplace listing are now for the PNW. Darnit, I had just gotten them to stop showing me stuff in Buffalo...from when I was out there four months ago.

"I'm selling it because the front tire is flat." Hmmm.
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Originally Posted by seypat View Post
54cm red/white IM on the Ebay Craigslist finds threads. White ST and head tube which makes it an 85, correct? Listed for $120 on Seattle FB Market place.

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace...8776333834193/
1986. No red/white in 1985. Model year. Those graphics began for 1986.
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1986. No red/white in 1985. Model year. Those graphics began for 1986.
Ok.
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My New '86

I identify the Classics by the "Centurion" on the seat stay caps. I was taking my time putting this one together. Usually, I rush.
I planned to rebuild/tension the wheels before I put it together, but the Bike Ribbon arrived Friday night and here it is on a 30 miler today with only a truing of the wheels.
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I identify the Classics by the "Centurion" on the seat stay caps. I was taking my time putting this one together. Usually, I rush.
I planned to rebuild/tension the wheels before I put it together, but the Bike Ribbon arrived Friday night and here it is on a 30 miler today with only a truing of the wheels.
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Old 09-30-19, 04:52 PM
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Originally Posted by seypat View Post
54cm red/white IM on the Ebay Craigslist finds threads. White ST and head tube which makes it an 85, correct? Listed for $120 on Seattle FB Market place.

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace...8776333834193/
That is an '87 Expert. Not an '86.
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Old 09-30-19, 05:26 PM
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I think we already have them in CA, TX, and NH...but world dominance is a slow process.
Yep put a push pin in CA on that ironmaiden map. Due in no small part to you Sir. I'll see what I can do on the other 47..


Here's a couple resto mod versions of the miami vice song posted earlier in the thread..



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Old 09-30-19, 08:38 PM
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Originally Posted by texaspandj View Post
That is an '87 Expert. Not an '86.
I stand corrected, didn't see the 105 on it.
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Old 10-01-19, 08:13 PM
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Likelihood these are counterfeit is < 1% in my opinion. There are a few threads on these here and the consensus seems to be they're from the German Centurion company, probably when they were still working with H. Tano in Japan. They seem to have be mostly showing up in Europe, from what I've seen. A few years ago, someone in Great Britain also had a stash of these they were selling, with the forks. I wouldn't be surprised if there's a box of 650C forks waiting to be found somewhere in Greece (that eBay seller threw another frame up for sale, by the way).

You might try going to the German Centurion (the company is Merida & Centurion Germany GmbH) site and emailing them with an inquiry, to see if they recall anything about these frames. I previously did this, to see if they had any connection with WSI (they didn't, other than previously using the same general contractor, H, Tano, in Japan) and they got quickly back to me and were pleased to know that people still dig the old Centurion bikes.
Sorry just getting back to yah....computer problems.....aarrrrgh!...............Anyway, I agree that it is utterly unlikely that the Centurion Turbo TT is a fake or a counterfeit. I will not rehash my arguments as they are posted right above. I also agree that they are from the Germany Centurion company and Made in Japan. Mostly showing up in Europe and Greece with a couple exceptions for ones in the USA. This makes sense as it is more a European kind of bicycle. It would also fit the Japan of its time.

Can you give me a link or tell me some info on the person that was selling the stash of them out of Great Britain with the forks? Do you know what size these were? I am trying to track down info so that would help. I think that box of forks would be more likely to show up in Germany or somewhere else in Europe. That would make some people very happy who only have the frame and no fork.

I tried contacting the German Centurion company and sent them lots of documentation and pictures but I got no response. I did not email a direct person but the general info email address. If you or anyone on this forum has a direct person in the German Centurion company that they can email and ask if they have any info or remember anything about this bike or if they can send email a catalog with it therein, then that would be awesome. The company is still around. This might solve the vexing mystery. That would be amazing! Okay thanks for your response.
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Old 10-01-19, 08:25 PM
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My Japanese bike serial number would not be relevant to the TT mystery. If you want to solve the mystery, Europe will be your best bet. The post above mine had a good suggestion. Also contact the bike shops located in and around Germany. You might get lucky. My Asian Expert has a faded sticker from the Japanese shop that originally sold it. I looked them up and they are still in business. I also have a Condor that was purchased in the early 70s from the shop in England. They are still in business as well. You might get lucky.
Well I figure I should send this message before this INFERNAL EVIL MACHINE they call a computer goes into the repair shop. Not that it is driving me crazy but if my relatives find me in the mental ward they will know why.

Anyway, to get to the point finally, I agree that your Japanese bike serial number would not pertain to the issue. Contacting German bike shops is also a good idea. That is cool when old bike shops are still around.

So let me ask you point blank....How do you assess my argument above based on the serial numbers? It is post 7346 with the Sherlock Holmes pics. I was also hoping T Mar and any other Centurion experts would way in on my argumentation. Thanks.
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Just so I am adding something....Thought you guys would appreciate this cool picture:

Which Centurion is he riding here again?

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Can you give me a link or tell me some info on the person that was selling the stash of them out of Great Britain with the forks? Do you know what size these were? I am trying to track down info so that would help. I think that box of forks would be more likely to show up in Germany or somewhere else in Europe. That would make some people very happy who only have the frame and no fork.

I tried contacting the German Centurion company and sent them lots of documentation and pictures but I got no response. I did not email a direct person but the general info email address. If you or anyone on this forum has a direct person in the German Centurion company that they can email and ask if they have any info or remember anything about this bike or if they can send email a catalog with it therein, then that would be awesome. The company is still around. This might solve the vexing mystery. That would be amazing! Okay thanks for your response.
Re: The Great Britain bikes. Unfortunately the synapses those memories are attached to are no longer firing due to chronic CRS syndrome. This was probably 4-5 years ago and was discussed on the board, maybe on this thread.

I don't know if you came across this page, Dumptruck's Daily Special: Search results for centurion turbo, about a Turbo TT frame from Italy, that was part of a NOS batch of 10 someone was selling back in 2013.

Re: The German Centurion Company. I emailed their marketing point-of-contact at marketing@merida-centurion.com and someone named Tristan Zerdick replied using that email. We had a few back and forths and he seemed to be genuinely interested in assisting me.
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Old 10-01-19, 11:11 PM
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Re: The Great Britain bikes. Unfortunately the synapses those memories are attached to are no longer firing due to chronic CRS syndrome. This was probably 4-5 years ago and was discussed on the board, maybe on this thread.

I don't know if you came across this page, Dumptruck's Daily Special: Search results for centurion turbo, about a Turbo TT frame from Italy, that was part of a NOS batch of 10 someone was selling back in 2013.

Re: The German Centurion Company. I emailed their marketing point-of-contact at marketing@merida-centurion.com and someone named Tristan Zerdick replied using that email. We had a few back and forths and he seemed to be genuinely interested in assisting me.
First of all thanks for the help on this. Second of all, I pray right now that your health improves.

That tip on the rep from German Centurion will help tremendously and I just got done sending him an email with pictures.

The page on Dumptruck Daily Special was what set me on a six year quest to finally obtain this bicycle (I eventually got two). The pictures there are my favorite and I have been in friendly contact with person behind that web page who owns the bike. He does not know anything more about the bicycle than I do but he also wants to know more. Well hopefully I will be getting an answer and I will post the results of my query here. Thanks again and all the best.

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Originally Posted by VintageTTfan View Post
Just so I am adding something....Thought you guys would appreciate this cool picture:

Which Centurion is he riding here again?
Painted up like a 1989 Master ("Hard Rock") marbled fade. From what we've learned, more likely a Zunow built for him.
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So a Centurion Carbon but painted to look like a yellow Ironman Master? Forgive the confusion. That would make sense to me in that the Carbon would be viewed as advanced at that time and he would maybe want to take advantage of it.

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Painted up like a 1989 Master ("Hard Rock") marbled fade. From what we've learned, more likely a Zunow built for him.
I had heard of that practice ....of making a "better" bike look like a "lesser" bike because of sponsorship. Pretty sneaky. Zunow is a great bike though....I have to admit. Pretty deceptive practice ...but all is fair in war I guess. I think they did that with a particular racing Huffy (that was really Italian made).

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