__Dom__

I picked up a vintage shogun for next to nothing and I’m looking to overhaul it. I’m having problems locating any info on the company and models over the years. Mainly I’m looking for bottom bracket and rear spacing and tube specs. I’m also unfamiliar with these old hubs and cassettes (shimano 5 speed) and their removal. I’m guessing I need a bottom bracket puller specific to this type. The bike says “100 high tensile steel” on the top tube. I’ll try to post some pics but I seem to be having trouble with doing so. Anyhow any advice of resources or if anyone can point me in the right direction that would be great.

__Dom__

I cannot get pics up on this. If someone wants to see them I guess just inbox me your e-mail and I’ll do it that way.

bikemig 

You came to the right place to get advice on the bike. The site doesn't let newbies post pics until they have 10 posts (it's an anti-spam measure) but someone will help you get those pics posted. We'll need pictures of the whole bike from the drive side and any close ups.

But basically with an old bike, you want to overhaul the parts (headset, bottom bracket, hubs, and pedals) with fresh grease and ideally new ball bearings (but you can use a degreaser on the old bearings if you want to recycle them). You will want to replace the consumables (tires, chain, cables, cable housing, and tape).

The handtools you likely own will get you started but you will need some bike specific tools as well such as a crank puller and cone wrenches.

This will do the job for to pull the arms off so you can overhaul the bottom bracket:

https://www.amazon.com/Park-Tool-Com...=fsclp_pl_dp_2

Double ended cone wrenches:

https://www.amazon.com/Park-Tool-DCW...g-goods&sr=1-7

For the rear hub, the right tool depends on whether you have a cassette or a freewheel so pics will really help here.

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__Dom__

Thanks!

randyjawa 

Good project and welcome to the Bike Forums. This is a rough idea of what tools will best assist your restorative efforts, and tuning efforts, and cleaning efforts. The point is, there are many different tools that facilitate working on an old, or new for that matter, bicycle. Have a look at Home Made and Store Bought Bicycle Tools. Get what you need, when you need it. This is, without doubt, the best tool in my tool box - kindasorta - of value if you work on bikes A LOT...

Bianchigirll 

Good Morning Dom and welcome!!! I am sure it has been mentioned but I would search out a Co-Op and see about using the tools there to start. You can easily remove and service most everything but the bottom bracket (BB) and remove the freewheel (FW) with common mechanics tools. Once you have all the other parts off the frame you can clean and wax it, then head to the Co-Op to get the BB worked on and the FW removed from the back wheel.

__Dom__

I’ve got everything stripped except the crank and bottom bracket. Anyone have any insight into those cranks? Anyone know what specific bb puller I’m gonna need? I don’t think I’ll be able to do too much interacting with other bike folks due to the pandemic and all. Also any insight on cracking those hubs open? I’d like to get started on the front just to see if they’re even salvageable. I don’t know if I’ll go ahead with the project if it means a new wheelset. Wasn’t really looking to spend that much unless someone knows of an inexpensive alternative for replacing.

bikemig 

Old bikes like this sometimes are easy to work and sometimes they're just a PITA. Pretty much any non-crashed bike can be saved but the question is whether it is worth your time and effort.

The BB tool I posted in no. 3 above will do the job. It's a simple Park crank puller. Here is a link to the Park website:

https://www.parktool.com/product/uni...d-cranks-cwp-7

A socket wrench will take the nut off; this is likely a 14 mm.

This is a freewheel and it looks as it if takes the Shimano freewheel tool. You will need to remove the outer nut to get the tool to fit in. Also this takes some torque. Lock the tool down tight to the wheel before trying to unscrew; best is to use a vice if you have one to hold the tool and turn the wheel.

https://www.parktool.com/product/fre...remover-fr-1-3

__Dom__

What kind of grease should I be using for hubs/bb?

bikemig 

I use this tub of park bike grease

https://www.amazon.com/Park-Tool-PPL...6026224&sr=8-2

But people here can argue all day long as to which is the best grease to use or the best lube for your chain.

ramzilla

Do a thorough going over all the threaded fasteners with a good quality penetrating oil before attempting disassembly. Getting things apart on an old bike like that can require a great deal leverage & brute force. Make sure to use the correct tools. Wear gloves. Be good. Have fun.

2cam16

Cool starter project. You've got some good suggestions above so I'll just watch how the build goes.

__Dom__

So I’ve got about 75% of the paint off using a grinder and I have to say that brushed metal look is freaking sexy. Anyone have any experience with leaving a frame bare? As to what kind of steps can be taken/ products to protect the bare metal?

dedhed

An often used grease for all the bearings is marine boat trailer grease from the auto parts store.
There are lots of places to buy grade 25 bearing balls to replace bearings cheaply.
https://www.amazon.com/Piece-Assorte.../dp/B018B7D05K

dedhed

The HI Ten steel, stem shifters, "Custom" crank, nutted axles, and brake "safety" levers say it's a lower end bike. If you're overhauling it to sell and make money it's not a good candidate.
If you're overhauling it as a rider and to get experience it'll be great for that.
You'll also probably want to replace what we call "consumables" - Inner & outer cables, although you can often get away with greasing up the old ones on these bikes with friction shifters, bar tape, and especially old hard brake pads, tires.
Besides cleaning the freewheel you'll probably want to remove, flush with WD40, reoil, and reinstall. Beware that freewheel may not use the "current" Shimano removal tool, but the "old style" Shimano tool. https://www.parktool.com/blog/repair...freewheel-type

Good "how to" resources are
Sheldon Brown
Randy's "My old ten speeds"
RJ the bike guy
Park tool

JohnDThompson 

A standard 22mm crank extractor should work.

A set of cone wrenches (13-14-15-16mm) and metric combo wrenches (probably 15mm for the front hub locknuts and 17mm for the rear) will open the hubs for inspection/service. If you have a bench mounted vise, and axle vise can make this easier.

The five-sprocket rear cluster suggests you have a freewheel rather than a freehub. The remover tool depends on the freewheel make/model. Shimano is most likely; the TL-FW20 if it's an old-style freewheel, or the TL-FW30 if it's a newer, Uniglide-type freewheel. Clean off the faceplate on the freewheel and see if there is any model designation.

__Dom__

Thanks for all the info folks. The front hub was actually very easy to crack open. I’m picking up the crank puller today and am trying to see if someone has the bottom bracket tools locally. Is there any way to convert these old hubs into single speed?

droppedandlost 

Just need a single speed freewheel. For example:
https://www.universalcycles.com/shop...4&category=403

__Dom__

I’m stripping the frame and I think I’m gonna leave it bare because it looks awesome. What’s the best decided on technique for protecting the metal?

SurferRosa

Probably to leave the original paint.