Sram derailleur pulley problem
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Sram derailleur pulley problem
I have a sram 7-speed rear derailleur on a 2008 redline r510. Don't know the exact model because it is too faded to read but might be something Q or 9 or 0. Bikepedia says this came with shimano derailleurs but front and rear are definitely sram.
Derailleur shifts fine but top pulley wheel is sticking when you try to freewheel. Spraying with cleaner and lube doesn't help. Fluid doesn't seem to get where it is needed. Never found a derailleur that you couldn't unscrew the little bolts holding the pulleys in before. It's usually a small hex key or bolt you can ratchet and on older models a Philips or even a flat head screw. Back of pulleys have perfectly round rivets I guess you'd call it and front is a smooth cap. Having trouble resizing photos small enough to be able to upload here.
All the sram models I'm finding online show hex key bolts for the pulleys. HELP!!!
Derailleur shifts fine but top pulley wheel is sticking when you try to freewheel. Spraying with cleaner and lube doesn't help. Fluid doesn't seem to get where it is needed. Never found a derailleur that you couldn't unscrew the little bolts holding the pulleys in before. It's usually a small hex key or bolt you can ratchet and on older models a Philips or even a flat head screw. Back of pulleys have perfectly round rivets I guess you'd call it and front is a smooth cap. Having trouble resizing photos small enough to be able to upload here.
All the sram models I'm finding online show hex key bolts for the pulleys. HELP!!!
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Some low end derailleurs have riveted jockeys and are unservicable. That means the only things you can do are keep trying to spray it with WD-40 and trying to work it free, or buy a replacement.
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got the back view to resize an upload. They are round and definitely do not fit a hex key even though some shading makes it look like they might
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I just haven't run into this before. Was thinking that was it but after working on some 100 or so different random bikes, some very low end and/or old school hadn't seen one you just could not service before.
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Like it or not, that's the answer. Did you actually remove the jockeys off of 100 bikes? SRAM X-3s and Shimano TZ-50s are not serviceable for example.
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Haven't taken the jockeys off 100 bikes but have worked on over 100 with derailleur issues and maybe pulled ones for real cleaning or issues/replacement from 1/3 or so. Can't tell you how many derailleurs we've swapped or pulled as parts from stripping bikes which all require removal of the bolts needed to service the jockeys as it's much quicker than breaking all the chains.
Saw every other type of removable connection on everything from treks and gary fishers to old Wallyworld specials and some old school things that turned into old school wicked cool after working on them. Figures the one that looked a little odd on first inspection is the one that I need to remove but can't!
It's all donation bikes, bikes found but not claimed from the police, bikes some nice guys at a recycling place pull out because they can be salvaged, etc.
With a lot of wd40 it's working a bit better. Just might get this one going before my order of derailleurs gets here. thanks for your input!
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Have you tried lubing with something that has a more accurate way of delivering the lube to the pulley bearing? Get a bottle of Triflow, they have a fine tube to get the lube where you need it.
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Thank you. It's actually a lot of fun and for the most part you meet great people and of course most all the neighborhood kids eventually come to us to get their bikes fixed.
Was gobsmacked to realize how much really serviceable stuff is thrown away. People toss bikes because one shifter lever broke or has some surface rust.
Love finding the old school bikes that come out old school wicked cool.
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Buy a whole new RD , that one was put in the Build specs to lower the price of the Bike .
The replacement you can and should select a Little higher Up the price level categories.
Your LBS will help You get something Better.
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Tried that. Used small screw driver to make a tiny crack of an opening to try to get better delivery too. Hopefully will get where I want it today with a little more work. If not I have 2 sets of 3 derailleurs coming from different vendors that will work.
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Oh, they're all serviceable. It's just that some require drilling the rivet heads off and finding the right sex screws to replace them with. (Assuming the back plate hole is already too large to tap for a regular screw that would work with the new pulley's bearing.) Probably not worth it for a $20 part, but I guess if you tend to ruin pulleys fast enough that the difference in price between new pulleys and new complete RDs justifies the one-time small effort of drilling and minor expense of screws, it's not unreasonable. (Or, I guess, if you want to keep that model of RD but just want different pulleys. I personally would like better ones on my SRAM 3.0, but might ultimately prefer to swap the whole mess and ditch the grip shifters too.)
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Riveted together , made by Manufacturing Robots.
Buy a whole new RD , that one was put in the Build specs to lower the price of the Bike .
The replacement you can and should select a Little higher Up the price level categories.
Your LBS will help You get something Better.
Buy a whole new RD , that one was put in the Build specs to lower the price of the Bike .
The replacement you can and should select a Little higher Up the price level categories.
Your LBS will help You get something Better.
Our LBS is TERRIBLE, unfortunately. Their only concern is renting bikes to tourists in season. Repairs are always a major upsell. Their cheapest service price is $80 for a cleaning, brake adjustment and minor truing of wheels. Want to replace a cable or pads also and it's $140 plus parts.
One of the not good things about living in Juneau and not being connected by road to anywhere.
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Our LBS is TERRIBLE, unfortunately. Their only concern is renting bikes to tourists in season. Repairs are always a major upsell. Their cheapest service price is $80 for a cleaning, brake adjustment and minor truing of wheels. Want to replace a cable or pads also and it's $140 plus parts.
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oh, they're all serviceable. It's just that some require drilling the rivet heads off and finding the right sex screws to replace them with. (assuming the back plate hole is already too large to tap for a regular screw that would work with the new pulley's bearing.) probably not worth it for a $20 part, but i guess if you tend to ruin pulleys fast enough that the difference in price between new pulleys and new complete rds justifies the one-time small effort of drilling and minor expense of screws, it's not unreasonable. (or, i guess, if you want to keep that model of rd but just want different pulleys. I personally would like better ones on my sram 3.0, but might ultimately prefer to swap the whole mess and ditch the grip shifters too.)
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Our LBS is TERRIBLE, unfortunately. Their only concern is renting bikes to tourists in season. Repairs are always a major upsell. Their cheapest service price is $80 for a cleaning, brake adjustment and minor truing of wheels. Want to replace a cable or pads also and it's $140 plus parts.
One of the not good things about living in Juneau and not being connected by road to anywhere.
One of the not good things about living in Juneau and not being connected by road to anywhere.
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