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I like the way you've coordinated the black tape and fenders. Works well with the Champagne.
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Huh. I have what I thought was a ‘71 International that’s a visual match for your competition, importantly including the fork crown. Also the stays and the Anniversary badge. Well, except for the gugificazione on mine. I get ‘71 (maybe late ‘70) from my F507 S/N and here: https://www.sheldonbrown.com/retroraleighs/dating.html More Sheldon on ‘70-71 Internationals, different fork crown (not that means much with Raleigh). https://www.sheldonbrown.com/retrora...rnational.html
Curious on what your S/N is and how you determined it’s a Competition. Original paint and decals? Mine of course is not...
Curious on what your S/N is and how you determined it’s a Competition. Original paint and decals? Mine of course is not...
My serial number is B7430, which the Sheldon Brown decoder ring says means it was built in 1967, but since all the information I've found says the Competition wasn't introduced until 1969, I'm just kind of assuming they built it and then it sat around for a while before it got paint and decals. Or maybe it's a really rare '67 Competition. Who knows?
I believe @gugie has pictures of yours with the original paint and decals on his Flickr page. This is it, right? https://www.flickr.com/photos/gugie/...h/27616950460/
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My biggest complaint about the champagne is that the chrome lugs kind of get lost. I would have mine painted or powder-coated but the original paint and decals are still too clean to allow me to do it with a clear conscience.
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I believe @gugie has pictures of yours with the original paint and decals on his Flickr page. This is it, right? https://www.flickr.com/photos/gugie/...h/27616950460/
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Ive never had a Champagne coloured bike but like the almost brown tint to it. I have plans to use brown accents for bars, cable and saddle. See how that turns out.
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Maybe your Twenty is really a Ten?
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I think the giveaway is hanging on the rear dropout in the photo at the link below. The Weigle 650B Intercourse is indeed based on a Raleigh Competition. No "Inter", no "Course", a complete fraud
https://www.flickr.com/photos/citize...ery/4682906660
https://www.flickr.com/photos/citize...ery/4682906660
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Pleasure, stamina...... should you expect less from an Intercourse?
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This thread reminds me of something we did at one of my workplaces. We put our workstations on the network, and each computer had to have a name. We used bird species as names. My main client's computer was called cardinal, my cow-orker's computer was called sapsucker, and my computer was called cockatiel. My cow-orker suggested that maybe we chop the names in half and glue them back together so mine would be sapatiel, and his would be ...
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This thread reminds me of something we did at one of my workplaces. We put our workstations on the network, and each computer had to have a name. We used bird species as names. My main client's computer was called cardinal, my cow-orker's computer was called sapsucker, and my computer was called cockatiel. My cow-orker suggested that maybe we chop the names in half and glue them back together so mine would be sapatiel, and his would be ...
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I should have known. The only other fenders I've seen with coverage close to those beautiful Lefols are Grand Bois.
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Assembly has begun
After waiting a few days for a Campagnolo down tube cable guide (Super Courses have braze-ons to serve that function) to arrive, I've started on assembly. Nervar Star bottom bracket is in. Huret Duopar with Huret Success downtube levers are also installed. I also had to fix the rear dropout adjusters which required a trip to the hardware store to get new M3 screws that aren't bent. I've stopped because I can't decide on which front changer to use. Choices are (from my parts box):
Huret 700
Huret Jubilee
Sachs/Huret with the "deep dish" inner plate
Suntour Cyclone
Suntour LePree (looks just like the Cyclone, as far as I can tell)
Suntour XC reverse action- high normal
I think I have a preference to keep it "all french" to stay close to the "InterCourse/SuperNational" francenbike theme but I don't have a correct Huret Challenger front mech. (which is really just a 700 with a fancy cage) on hand.
What would you folks choose.....
Huret 700
Huret Jubilee
Sachs/Huret with the "deep dish" inner plate
Suntour Cyclone
Suntour LePree (looks just like the Cyclone, as far as I can tell)
Suntour XC reverse action- high normal
I think I have a preference to keep it "all french" to stay close to the "InterCourse/SuperNational" francenbike theme but I don't have a correct Huret Challenger front mech. (which is really just a 700 with a fancy cage) on hand.
What would you folks choose.....
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I’d select the Jubilee. The Competition from the same era used it. To me it’s the Raleighest choice on the board....plus I just like it!
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Assembly continues....slowly
I'm moving forward with this build. Forgive the truly crappy picture (courtesy of my cheap Nokia phone)
Not wanting to end up with two essentially identical bikes, I moved the fenders and the pedals with reflectors over to this bike from the "nice" one which I am bringing back closer to its original specs. The Campagnolo drivetrain is back on, the Multito and the Carradice are off but I'm thinking it really needs white bar tape in this configuration......
I still have to play musical chairs with the wheels and tires I have on-hand but I know what I am going to do there. Where I am stalled is whether to install all-rounder bars or drops. I have both, but the drops are only 39cm wide which I find to be a little narrow. I do have some nice Weinmann levers for those with black hoods which would look good. On the other hand, using the all-rounder bars would help differentiate this International from the other one. The seat will be a B17, which is fine with either type of bar IME. Suggestions?
Not wanting to end up with two essentially identical bikes, I moved the fenders and the pedals with reflectors over to this bike from the "nice" one which I am bringing back closer to its original specs. The Campagnolo drivetrain is back on, the Multito and the Carradice are off but I'm thinking it really needs white bar tape in this configuration......
I still have to play musical chairs with the wheels and tires I have on-hand but I know what I am going to do there. Where I am stalled is whether to install all-rounder bars or drops. I have both, but the drops are only 39cm wide which I find to be a little narrow. I do have some nice Weinmann levers for those with black hoods which would look good. On the other hand, using the all-rounder bars would help differentiate this International from the other one. The seat will be a B17, which is fine with either type of bar IME. Suggestions?
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If anyone is interested, here is where I ended up....
I know it doesn't look too far from where I started but, here is the original bike now:
It's hard to see in the pictures, especially on the drive-side, but the "spare" frame has a couple of small dents and some pretty serious acne on the chrome plating of the fork blades, but just on the left side. Since it is just one side, that may go all the way back to a bit of contamination getting on there during the plating process. I'm a lot more comfortable with the idea of locking this bike up in front of the hardware store than my better one. What remains to be seen is whether I use the "nice" one much now that it has a 47 inch low gear and can't even carry a sandwich. If I don't use and enjoy it, I'll reconfigure again and get rid of one of them.
I know it doesn't look too far from where I started but, here is the original bike now:
It's hard to see in the pictures, especially on the drive-side, but the "spare" frame has a couple of small dents and some pretty serious acne on the chrome plating of the fork blades, but just on the left side. Since it is just one side, that may go all the way back to a bit of contamination getting on there during the plating process. I'm a lot more comfortable with the idea of locking this bike up in front of the hardware store than my better one. What remains to be seen is whether I use the "nice" one much now that it has a 47 inch low gear and can't even carry a sandwich. If I don't use and enjoy it, I'll reconfigure again and get rid of one of them.