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Old 04-06-20, 03:39 PM
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Prime Minister Boris Johnson in Intensive Care

The title pretty much says it all.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-52192604
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Old 04-06-20, 04:33 PM
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This should get interesting. Particularly in whether national leaders begin to isolate themselves completely, or continue public appearances. Reportedly Henry VIII isolated himself throughout the Plague years.
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I think he is 55 and it is not obvious he has any underlying physical health issues.

Presumably, in London and as PM, he also has access to decent medical care.
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Old 04-06-20, 09:48 PM
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The U.K.’s Coronavirus ‘Herd Immunity’ Debacle

The country is not aiming for 60 percent of the populace to get COVID-19, but you’d be forgiven for thinking so based on how badly the actual plan has been explained.



I guess I just don't feel a lot of sympathy for someone who decided it was just "OK" for everyone else to get the disease.

I've said for quite some time that we have been focusing on the mortality with respect to the virus, but there is also the morbidity. Live or die, spending weeks in the ICU and a month in the hospital won't be fun (although if he is in induced coma, at least some of the time will fly by).
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Old 04-06-20, 10:16 PM
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With one notable exception, I wouldn't wish this on anyone. But I agree that the UK really dropped the ball.
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If you see my link above, basically he went around thinking he was somehow immune... turns out, he's not.
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In a NY Times article,I read that he went to a hospital and shook hands with the COVID patients a month ago. With bare hands.
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Old 04-06-20, 10:36 PM
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Messiah complex.
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With one notable exception, I wouldn't wish this on anyone.
I hope they shook hands recently.
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Old 04-06-20, 11:15 PM
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Originally Posted by 79pmooney View Post
In a NY Times article,I read that he went to a hospital and shook hands with the COVID patients a month ago. With bare hands.
You can't say he didn't work hard to get where he is.
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Originally Posted by CliffordK View Post

The U.K.’s Coronavirus ‘Herd Immunity’ Debacle

The country is not aiming for 60 percent of the populace to get COVID-19, but you’d be forgiven for thinking so based on how badly the actual plan has been explained.



I guess I just don't feel a lot of sympathy for someone who decided it was just "OK" for everyone else to get the disease.

I've said for quite some time that we have been focusing on the mortality with respect to the virus, but there is also the morbidity. Live or die, spending weeks in the ICU and a month in the hospital won't be fun (although if he is in induced coma, at least some of the time will fly by).

And at this point, we really don't know whether people's lungs ever really fully recover. There's also some really alarming reports about cases of cardiac damage.
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And at this point, we really don't know whether people's lungs ever really fully recover. There's also some really alarming reports about cases of cardiac damage.
I'm heading out for a chest x-ray shortly. I have a constant cough, and I tend to see spots and light flashes when coughing. From what I understand, this is possibly a sign of lung and heart damage. I hope not,...but it's not looking promising for my condition right now.
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Originally Posted by tds101 View Post
I'm heading out for a chest x-ray shortly. I have a constant cough, and I tend to see spots and light flashes when coughing. From what I understand, this is possibly a sign of lung and heart damage. I hope not,...but it's not looking promising for my condition right now.

Again, I appreciate your being public about this because I think too many people are taking the "it probably won't kill ME so I don't have to worry about it" approach. The rate of complications is so much higher than the death rate and this is well beyond the simple annoyance of a few days lost to the "normal" flu.
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Originally Posted by Trevtassie View Post
If you see my link above, basically he went around thinking he was somehow immune... turns out, he's not.
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In a NY Times article,I read that he went to a hospital and shook hands with the COVID patients a month ago. With bare hands.
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Messiah complex.

He's been a gold star wanker for years and finally he's met something that doesn't care about how well he speaks or how good he can spin a BS story.

That being said, I still hope he recovers quickly. Losing a national leader in a time of crisis (even if he is an idiot) is not a good thing.
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Originally Posted by tds101 View Post
I'm heading out for a chest x-ray shortly. I have a constant cough, and I tend to see spots and light flashes when coughing. From what I understand, this is possibly a sign of lung and heart damage. I hope not,...but it's not looking promising for my condition right now.
I am hoping you have come back with good news. What did you find out during your X-Rays?

While I have my doubts as to what I had, a lot of us in SE Michigan contracted some nasty flu late Jan, early Feb. Same Covid-19 symptoms. I personally had 3 days of fatigue, shivers, dry cough, and on the 4th day, felt good enough to go back to work. Then for two and a half weeks or so, coughing and phlegm. Of course, none of who caught it thought it was anything more than a cold or a flu. I do feel back up to speed, though I'll have the doc xray me on my next checkup.
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I am hoping you have come back with good news. What did you find out during your X-Rays?

While I have my doubts as to what I had, a lot of us in SE Michigan contracted some nasty flu late Jan, early Feb. Same Covid-19 symptoms. I personally had 3 days of fatigue, shivers, dry cough, and on the 4th day, felt good enough to go back to work. Then for two and a half weeks or so, coughing and phlegm. Of course, none of who caught it thought it was anything more than a cold or a flu. I do feel back up to speed, though I'll have the doc xray me on my next checkup.
My lungs are clear, and I'm apparently ok'd for my return to work on Sunday.

I also got sick in January, and the symptoms were the same as Covid-19, but much milder. My doctor gave me antibiotics, as he thought I had bronchitis. This makes me question immunity,... I'll be wearing a respirator at work at all times from now on.
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My lungs are clear, and I'm apparently ok'd for my return to work on Sunday.

I also got sick in January, and the symptoms were the same as Covid-19, but much milder. My doctor gave me antibiotics, as he thought I had bronchitis. This makes me question immunity,... I'll be wearing a respirator at work at all times from now on.

Really good news!
When you get back to work, can you post your observations about what's going on with mass transit in NY?
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Boris Johnson's statement on being released from the hospital, in which he thanks health care workers.

Boris Johnson -you tube- 5 minutes
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Really good news!
When you get back to work, can you post your observations about what's going on with mass transit in NY?
Mass transit is running on an "Essential Employee" schedule, which means less than holiday schedule. It's terrible. The buses tend to be packed, and the trains are filled with homeless people on the line that I work on. And depending one the line, it could be a ghost town, OR shoulder to shoulder riding. It's a complete crapshoot. So many people are out sick there's nothing that can be done. NYC is a mess,...
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Mass transit is running on an "Essential Employee" schedule, which means less than holiday schedule. It's terrible. The buses tend to be packed, and the trains are filled with homeless people on the line that I work on. And depending one the line, it could be a ghost town, OR shoulder to shoulder riding. It's a complete crapshoot. So many people are out sick there's nothing that can be done. NYC is a mess,...

That's bad news. I'm sorry to hear that, but cannot thank you and your fellow employees enough for what you're doing and the risks you're taking--if transit failed, the hospitals and food would be next.
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That's bad news. I'm sorry to hear that, but cannot thank you and your fellow employees enough for what you're doing and the risks you're taking--if transit failed, the hospitals and food would be next.
Thank you. We all appreciate the acknowledgement. Too bad when this is all over we'll all be considered the criminals of transportation in NYC. It is what it is,...
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Thank you. We all appreciate the acknowledgement. Too bad when this is all over we'll all be considered the criminals of transportation in NYC. It is what it is,...

I hope you're wrong about that, but alas....
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I thought this thread was supposed to be about Boris Johnson. Who did manage, thanks to constant around the clock care, to recover.

Mods, maybe this thread should be killed.
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I thought this thread was supposed to be about Boris Johnson. Who did manage, thanks to constant around the clock care, to recover.

Mods, maybe this thread should be killed.
The clip in Post 19 is good.

But, yes, he received care beyond what many others would have received. What about other Britons on public health? Ultimately, though, I don't believe he was put on a ventilator, and mostly around the clock monitoring. Should he have even been put in the ICU?

I don't think there was a mention of his medical coctail.

I'd keep the thread open, and hopefully see how this event impacts the UK.
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