The Bianchi Proto thread
12-22-18, 07:13 AM
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Whoever is auctioning off that 56 is doing rather well, and thankfully past what I would be able to spend on it (no empty hooks in the garage!). I'd like to think that this thread has gotten at least a few more people interested in this model! Thanks, Stygg for pointing it out!
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Got one...
Finally found a place that knew what this is! On a separate thread on this forum some of the "Guys in the Know" called it junk. Pshhh, I also got my hands a Digiemmueno Frame and Fork, and an old school Mavic Groupo, Various Campy Components, Mavic Blues Wheelset, and more! I am in SoCal and hope this will make someone's day! Feel free to email me @ Ecoactivetours@gmail.com for photos of number 88 - Celeste
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06-23-19, 04:31 AM
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Finally found a place that knew what this is! On a separate thread on this forum some of the "Guys in the Know" called it junk. Pshhh, I also got my hands a Digiemmueno Frame and Fork, and an old school Mavic Groupo, Various Campy Components, Mavic Blues Wheelset, and more! I am in SoCal and hope this will make someone's day! Feel free to email me @ Ecoactivetours@gmail.com for photos of number 88 - Celeste
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07-17-19, 10:22 AM
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We have the same decals, I wonder if they are from the same batch. My serial is in the 90s I believe, and was allegedly one of the first shipped.
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07-17-19, 10:24 AM
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Bought f/f used in 09 and built as an IGH
Bought used in ‘09 and made many changes.
Purchased new, f/f and built in ‘90.
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07-17-19, 05:55 PM
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Thank You. The decals aren’t the originals but I think they look good on it. It is actually a European model bike but I’ve never seen another like it.
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07-25-19, 04:24 PM
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Thanks for pointing out that this is the wrong thread for the images I posted.
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I've been meaning to post this for a while, but I am now the owner of the Bianchi Proto aforementioned in this thread serial 0041 (previously owned by c. c. rider). It has mid 90's decals, was repainted and bore a Columbus decal with “Riverniciato” on it (as discussed earlier in this thread). As I read that it was confirmed as Max tubing as all Protos are I replaced the sticker. Unfortunately it lack the original forks (if anyone has any leads) which I would love to have. It had a nasty dent in the top tube when i got it, and my cat knocked it over almost doubling it, despite that the frame still rides beautifully, and remains the most stable frame I have on quick descents...it feels like its glued to the road (vittoria corsa g+ also help.) I've built it up with 1996 Titanium Record group, with and older Chorus Crank (beefy with thicker chain rings), pedals, c-record BB, pre exa-drive alphabet cogs, Veloce hubs, Omega 19 rims, and Cinelli Giro bars. Though one day would be nice to have the original c-record group on it. The frame is a little big at 61cm, as I usually ride 59cm (leaning to 57cm) but it still comfortable for the most part. Just happy to have the fortune of acquiring one 
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Here's my Proto when I received it back in 06 (first pic) Then after the repaint to make it like my original Proto from 90, and how it sits now built up.
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It has been a while since I had a look on the net for more Bianchi Proto/Caurus Proto. Found quite a few more than last time but only two that show their serial numbers.
New ones in red.
F020(added 15/12 2018)
F030
F041 (added 13/10 2017 owned by c c rider)
F058
F136 (added 7/7 2016 found at "vintage art work" on flickr)
F208 (added 13/10 2017 - owner - bloodytea.
F.243 (added 5/5 2016 - and also has a dot as 254)
F.254 (has a dot between F and number)
F268 (added 29/4 2020 - found on instagram) Gewiss colours
F277 (added 29/4 2020 - found at Premium Cycling)
F287 (added 16/8 2016 - found in old ebay auction)
F326 (added 17/1 2017 - found at registrostoricocicli.com)
F370
F382 (mine)
F403 the one in the PDF-file at https://www.ciclimasini.com/images/90...i%20Caurus.pdf
BCOC88 (added by Pattycakes in the thread)
BCOC104 (added 25/10 2016 courtesy of scooterpants) Stolen in 1993 - if you see it - let scooterpants know.
BCOC112 (added 25/10 2016 courtesy of scooterpants)
BCOC115 (added 25/10 2016 courtesy of scooterpants)
BCOC157
BCOC359 (last digit might also be a 3) (added 28/2 2017 - from telaio Bianchi Columbus Max BDC-Forum.it)
BCOC360
BCOC515 (the O probably stamped at an angle - making it look like BCCC)
Gewiss F268
F277
On the German site Rennrad-news I found a good picture from a 1991 catalog showing the Specialissima Proto Caurus...
New ones in red.
F020(added 15/12 2018)
F030
F041 (added 13/10 2017 owned by c c rider)
F058
F136 (added 7/7 2016 found at "vintage art work" on flickr)
F208 (added 13/10 2017 - owner - bloodytea.
F.243 (added 5/5 2016 - and also has a dot as 254)
F.254 (has a dot between F and number)
F268 (added 29/4 2020 - found on instagram) Gewiss colours
F277 (added 29/4 2020 - found at Premium Cycling)
F287 (added 16/8 2016 - found in old ebay auction)
F326 (added 17/1 2017 - found at registrostoricocicli.com)
F370
F382 (mine)
F403 the one in the PDF-file at https://www.ciclimasini.com/images/90...i%20Caurus.pdf
BCOC88 (added by Pattycakes in the thread)
BCOC104 (added 25/10 2016 courtesy of scooterpants) Stolen in 1993 - if you see it - let scooterpants know.
BCOC112 (added 25/10 2016 courtesy of scooterpants)
BCOC115 (added 25/10 2016 courtesy of scooterpants)
BCOC157
BCOC359 (last digit might also be a 3) (added 28/2 2017 - from telaio Bianchi Columbus Max BDC-Forum.it)
BCOC360
BCOC515 (the O probably stamped at an angle - making it look like BCCC)
Gewiss F268
F277
On the German site Rennrad-news I found a good picture from a 1991 catalog showing the Specialissima Proto Caurus...
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07-07-20, 01:07 PM
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It has been a while since I had a look on the net for more Bianchi Proto/Caurus Proto. Found quite a few more than last time but only two that show their serial numbers.
New ones in red.
F020(added 15/12 2018)
F030
F041 (added 13/10 2017 owned by c c rider)
F058
F136 (added 7/7 2016 found at "vintage art work" on flickr)
F208 (added 13/10 2017 - owner - bloodytea.
F.243 (added 5/5 2016 - and also has a dot as 254)
F.254 (has a dot between F and number)
F268 (added 29/4 2020 - found on instagram) Gewiss colours
F277 (added 29/4 2020 - found at Premium Cycling)
F287 (added 16/8 2016 - found in old ebay auction)
F326 (added 17/1 2017 - found at registrostoricocicli.com)
F370
F382 (mine)
F403 the one in the PDF-file at https://www.ciclimasini.com/images/90...i%20Caurus.pdf
BCOC88 (added by Pattycakes in the thread)
BCOC104 (added 25/10 2016 courtesy of scooterpants) Stolen in 1993 - if you see it - let scooterpants know.
BCOC112 (added 25/10 2016 courtesy of scooterpants)
BCOC115 (added 25/10 2016 courtesy of scooterpants)
BCOC157
BCOC359 (last digit might also be a 3) (added 28/2 2017 - from telaio Bianchi Columbus Max BDC-Forum.it)
BCOC360
BCOC515 (the O probably stamped at an angle - making it look like BCCC)
Gewiss F268
F277
On the German site Rennrad-news I found a good picture from a 1991 catalog showing the Specialissima Proto Caurus...
New ones in red.
F020(added 15/12 2018)
F030
F041 (added 13/10 2017 owned by c c rider)
F058
F136 (added 7/7 2016 found at "vintage art work" on flickr)
F208 (added 13/10 2017 - owner - bloodytea.
F.243 (added 5/5 2016 - and also has a dot as 254)
F.254 (has a dot between F and number)
F268 (added 29/4 2020 - found on instagram) Gewiss colours
F277 (added 29/4 2020 - found at Premium Cycling)
F287 (added 16/8 2016 - found in old ebay auction)
F326 (added 17/1 2017 - found at registrostoricocicli.com)
F370
F382 (mine)
F403 the one in the PDF-file at https://www.ciclimasini.com/images/90...i%20Caurus.pdf
BCOC88 (added by Pattycakes in the thread)
BCOC104 (added 25/10 2016 courtesy of scooterpants) Stolen in 1993 - if you see it - let scooterpants know.
BCOC112 (added 25/10 2016 courtesy of scooterpants)
BCOC115 (added 25/10 2016 courtesy of scooterpants)
BCOC157
BCOC359 (last digit might also be a 3) (added 28/2 2017 - from telaio Bianchi Columbus Max BDC-Forum.it)
BCOC360
BCOC515 (the O probably stamped at an angle - making it look like BCCC)
Gewiss F268
F277
On the German site Rennrad-news I found a good picture from a 1991 catalog showing the Specialissima Proto Caurus...
*Note* I am the current owner of F041 , purchased from ‘c c rider’.....
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02-20-21, 10:47 AM
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It has been a while but some days ago I found pictures that are somewhat strange. French language 1989.
Two notes:
1. Not a MAX fork
2. The horisontal tube from the seat cluster to the head tube, the top tube, looks like an over sized straight tube. MAX is ovalized - look at all the pics in this thread.
This shows you can never be sure about anything Italian... ;-) Never seen anything like it in real life though.
Edit - my own frame as reference top tube and fork:
Two notes:
1. Not a MAX fork
2. The horisontal tube from the seat cluster to the head tube, the top tube, looks like an over sized straight tube. MAX is ovalized - look at all the pics in this thread.
This shows you can never be sure about anything Italian... ;-) Never seen anything like it in real life though.
Edit - my own frame as reference top tube and fork:
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02-20-21, 02:35 PM
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Is this from a Bianchi catalog or a magazine? Who is to say where the Proto frame came from. Maybe the original fork got damaged somehow or was cut too short so a different fork was added to use a different headset. It could be an optical illusion on the TT or maybe on smaller frames the front section of the tube wasn’t ovalized as much.
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02-22-21, 07:15 AM
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Is this from a Bianchi catalog or a magazine? Who is to say where the Proto frame came from. Maybe the original fork got damaged somehow or was cut too short so a different fork was added to use a different headset. It could be an optical illusion on the TT or maybe on smaller frames the front section of the tube wasn’t ovalized as much.
I agree on the fork. There are a gazillion possible reasons for the fork being substituted/changed to another model. The top tube on the other hand I believe actually is an oversize straight tube. It could be a special order, a prototype or just a test run. There are plenty of even smaller Proto frames in this thread showing a clear ovalizing that gives a tapered look from the side.
What ever it is I think it is interesting and adds to the Proto "history".
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Hello,
I have two X4 BCOC under restauration : BCOC 172 and BCOC 504. I hope to show these bikes when I will have enough interventions to do so.
I have two X4 BCOC under restauration : BCOC 172 and BCOC 504. I hope to show these bikes when I will have enough interventions to do so.
05-10-21, 06:22 AM
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Another Caurus Proto (?) Frame.
Hi styggno1. I came into possession of what I believe may be a Caurus Proto frame in black & pearl coral (more details on the Bianchi number id. thread).
If you are still compiling a list of frame numbers, mine is F.301 and domiciled here in London.
I can't post the pictures to the thread but I chucked them up to my gallery and (if I did not muck it up), the public gallery.
It came to me from the cycling Gods, well, it was dumped behind our communal recycling bin and I believe that it belonged to my late next-door neighbour, new people having moved in and cleared out his shed. Lovely chap who died in his 30s who I saw out and about on a variety of quality machines.
If you are still compiling a list of frame numbers, mine is F.301 and domiciled here in London.
I can't post the pictures to the thread but I chucked them up to my gallery and (if I did not muck it up), the public gallery.
It came to me from the cycling Gods, well, it was dumped behind our communal recycling bin and I believe that it belonged to my late next-door neighbour, new people having moved in and cleared out his shed. Lovely chap who died in his 30s who I saw out and about on a variety of quality machines.
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05-10-21, 07:01 PM
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Further to my previous post, I have been sent some pictures and info. from two of my Italian wife's loony, obsessive friends which are (the pictures of the bicycles, not the loony Itis) identical in dimensions and paint-job to my gift from the Cycling Gods.
Some were from owner-generated sources others were from commercial dealers and all were, as mine appears to be, Columbus Max tube-set with no lugs apart from the top of the seat tube with all joins tig welded. Each example, all with the same black & pearl coral paint, described as Caurus Proto.
Definitely another one for your register styggno1 !
Some were from owner-generated sources others were from commercial dealers and all were, as mine appears to be, Columbus Max tube-set with no lugs apart from the top of the seat tube with all joins tig welded. Each example, all with the same black & pearl coral paint, described as Caurus Proto.
Definitely another one for your register styggno1 !
05-12-21, 11:16 AM
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My best guess for the year manufacture of F.301, from what I have seen, is C.1990 as it has through-tube cable routing and separate cable guides on the bottom bracket however, I could wide of the margin.
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05-14-21, 02:00 AM
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Welcome OlderNotWiser - to the Proto Proto Caurus knowledge compilation thread!
I am still working on the list but I am not as active as before. Maybe once a month I scan the net for "new" ones.
You have written it "F.301" "F dot 301" - does it actually have a dot?
Looking forward to pictures!
New in red.
F020(added 15/12 2018)
F030
F041 (added 13/10 2017 owned by c c rider)
F058
F136 (added 7/7 2016 found at "vintage art work" on flickr)
F208 (added 13/10 2017 - owner - bloodytea.
F.243 (added 5/5 2016 - and also has a dot as 254)
F.254 (has a dot between F and number)
F268 (added 29/4 2020 - found on instagram) Gewiss colours
F277 (added 29/4 2020 - found at Premium Cycling)
F287 (added 16/8 2016 - found in old ebay auction)
F.301 (added 10/5 2021 - by owner OlderNotWiser)
F326 (added 17/1 2017 - found at registrostoricocicli.com)
F370
F382 (mine)
F403 the one in the PDF-file at https://www.ciclimasini.com/images/90...i%20Caurus.pdf
BCOC88(added by Pattycakes in the thread)
BCOC104 (added 25/10 2016 courtesy of scooterpants) Stolen in 1993 - if you see it - let scooterpants know.
BCOC112 (added 25/10 2016 courtesy of scooterpants)
BCOC115 (added 25/10 2016 courtesy of scooterpants)
BCOC157
BCOC359 (last digit might also be a 3) (added 28/2 2017 - from telaio Bianchi Columbus Max BDC-Forum.it)
BCOC360
BCOC515 (the O probably stamped at an angle - making it look like BCCC)
I am still working on the list but I am not as active as before. Maybe once a month I scan the net for "new" ones.
You have written it "F.301" "F dot 301" - does it actually have a dot?
Looking forward to pictures!
New in red.
F020(added 15/12 2018)
F030
F041 (added 13/10 2017 owned by c c rider)
F058
F136 (added 7/7 2016 found at "vintage art work" on flickr)
F208 (added 13/10 2017 - owner - bloodytea.
F.243 (added 5/5 2016 - and also has a dot as 254)
F.254 (has a dot between F and number)
F268 (added 29/4 2020 - found on instagram) Gewiss colours
F277 (added 29/4 2020 - found at Premium Cycling)
F287 (added 16/8 2016 - found in old ebay auction)
F.301 (added 10/5 2021 - by owner OlderNotWiser)
F326 (added 17/1 2017 - found at registrostoricocicli.com)
F370
F382 (mine)
F403 the one in the PDF-file at https://www.ciclimasini.com/images/90...i%20Caurus.pdf
BCOC88(added by Pattycakes in the thread)
BCOC104 (added 25/10 2016 courtesy of scooterpants) Stolen in 1993 - if you see it - let scooterpants know.
BCOC112 (added 25/10 2016 courtesy of scooterpants)
BCOC115 (added 25/10 2016 courtesy of scooterpants)
BCOC157
BCOC359 (last digit might also be a 3) (added 28/2 2017 - from telaio Bianchi Columbus Max BDC-Forum.it)
BCOC360
BCOC515 (the O probably stamped at an angle - making it look like BCCC)
05-14-21, 03:16 AM
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Hi styggno1 ,
Thanks for the response and yes, the frame no. is F dot 301.
I will put the pictures, possibly better ones, up here when possible.
I will document the rebuild on the forum. It may take some time as finances are V. tight and other difficulties press but she deserves it, having narrowly escaped the landfill site.
Thanks for the response and yes, the frame no. is F dot 301.
I will put the pictures, possibly better ones, up here when possible.
I will document the rebuild on the forum. It may take some time as finances are V. tight and other difficulties press but she deserves it, having narrowly escaped the landfill site.
