Road bike as a commuter bike?
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Road bike as a commuter bike?
Is it possible to ride a road bike as a regular bike? Like, lower down that super high seat, swap out the dropped handlebars for flat handlebars (or raise the dropped handlebars higher), and ride it in a more upright comfortable position?
I ask because I want a lightweight bicycle for commuting and groceries, and all of the lightweight bicycles seem to be road bikes built for intense people hunched over in lycra.
Can you recommend any flat/butterfly/moustache-handlebar road bikes that can be ridden comfortably for everyday purposes?
Side question: How do people stop at red lights / stop signs with their ass so high in the air on such a tall seat? Do they slide forward and off the seat, or tilt the bike to the side and put one foot on the ground?
I ask because I want a lightweight bicycle for commuting and groceries, and all of the lightweight bicycles seem to be road bikes built for intense people hunched over in lycra.
Can you recommend any flat/butterfly/moustache-handlebar road bikes that can be ridden comfortably for everyday purposes?
Side question: How do people stop at red lights / stop signs with their ass so high in the air on such a tall seat? Do they slide forward and off the seat, or tilt the bike to the side and put one foot on the ground?
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Is it possible to ride a road bike as a regular bike? Like, lower down that super high seat, swap out the dropped handlebars for flat handlebars (or raise the dropped handlebars higher), and ride it in a more upright comfortable position?
I ask because I want a lightweight bicycle for commuting and groceries, and all of the lightweight bicycles seem to be road bikes built for intense people hunched over in lycra.
Can you recommend any flat/butterfly/moustache-handlebar road bikes that can be ridden comfortably for everyday purposes?
I ask because I want a lightweight bicycle for commuting and groceries, and all of the lightweight bicycles seem to be road bikes built for intense people hunched over in lycra.
Can you recommend any flat/butterfly/moustache-handlebar road bikes that can be ridden comfortably for everyday purposes?
Side question: How do people stop at red lights / stop signs with their ass so high in the air on such a tall seat? Do they slide forward and off the seat, or tilt the bike to the side and put one foot on the ground?
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"Flat bar road bike" is a category worth looking into:
https://www.eriksbikeshop.com/cyclin.../style_Flatbar
What I can't tell you is how light is light. Chances are, the offerings for flat bar road bikes top out before drop bar road bikes do.
Take the marketing pictures with a grain of salt... most of the bikes shown are a size too small for how high they've raised the saddles, because it looks sporty and cool that way. The one you actually buy should fit your body, not the photographer's preconceptions.
https://www.eriksbikeshop.com/cyclin.../style_Flatbar
What I can't tell you is how light is light. Chances are, the offerings for flat bar road bikes top out before drop bar road bikes do.
Take the marketing pictures with a grain of salt... most of the bikes shown are a size too small for how high they've raised the saddles, because it looks sporty and cool that way. The one you actually buy should fit your body, not the photographer's preconceptions.
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why? A "Lighter" or "less heavy" bicycle is mostly good at accelerating faster and maybe easier on the climbs depending on how much effort one might put in, so you still need to.put that effort in, but sure if you like light no cargo fastest travelling yes by all means get the lightest and most earo bike you can get, Cheers!
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why? A "Lighter" or "less heavy" bicycle is mostly good at accelerating faster and maybe easier on the climbs depending on how much effort one might put in, so you still need to.put that effort in, but sure if you like light no cargo fastest travelling yes by all means get the lightest and most earo bike you can get, Cheers!
OP needs to carry it up and down stairs apparently. Seems like s/he wants a light, cheap, fast, upright race bike with rack mounts for portaging groceries.
OP, have you ever actually ridden or owned a bike? Judging by your posts you seem to have minimal reference points. No judgement if not (I hadn't owned a bike in 15 years when I joined the forum) it just seems like you're trying to get an urban quiver-killer for a song.
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Is it possible to ride a road bike as a regular bike? Like, lower down that super high seat, swap out the dropped handlebars for flat handlebars (or raise the dropped handlebars higher), and ride it in a more upright comfortable position?
I ask because I want a lightweight bicycle for commuting and groceries, and all of the lightweight bicycles seem to be road bikes built for intense people hunched over in lycra.
Can you recommend any flat/butterfly/moustache-handlebar road bikes that can be ridden comfortably for everyday purposes?
Side question: How do people stop at red lights / stop signs with their ass so high in the air on such a tall seat? Do they slide forward and off the seat, or tilt the bike to the side and put one foot on the ground?
I ask because I want a lightweight bicycle for commuting and groceries, and all of the lightweight bicycles seem to be road bikes built for intense people hunched over in lycra.
Can you recommend any flat/butterfly/moustache-handlebar road bikes that can be ridden comfortably for everyday purposes?
Side question: How do people stop at red lights / stop signs with their ass so high in the air on such a tall seat? Do they slide forward and off the seat, or tilt the bike to the side and put one foot on the ground?
So if I were you I would look for a road bike (if you're still looking for a new bike). I would get one second hand or on the cheaper end (100-300) so you're not breaking the bank. I would avoid single speed bikes for now. You can of course change the handlebars if that feels more comfortable for you. I would make sure when looking for a bike that if you want to put a rear rack on it that there are mounts available on the rear drop-outs (that way you don't have to mount the rack via the rear hub axle).
When it comes to stopping at red lights it will be more comfortable to slide forward off of your seat rather than teetering on your toes. Slide forward off the seat, keep one foot planted on the ground and the other resting on a pedal at a good starting position to get moving again. This will take time and practice and if you have a bike path nearby or a quiet road I would recommend practicing.
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I live on a street that's a popular thoroughfare for bike commuters in my locale, and my breakfast table looks out over the street, perfect for bike watching. What do folks ride? It looks like whatever they drug out of the garage when they decided to start commuting. They didn't look for the perfect commuting bike -- that's literally putting the cart before the horse. When I see one of the "regulars" on a new bike, it is usually but not always some kind of hybrid or commuter oriented bike, though certainly not always.
For me, drop bars are a no-go due to a minor neck injury that can get inflamed and then take months to go away. Swept bars that are roughly level with the saddle are my formula for comfort. If your body can tolerate drop bars, you'll probably like them. So it's a dilemma.
The problem with a conversion is that aftermarket parts are expensive, so a converted bike is not an economical choice if you can find something that works right for you from the start. In totally practical terms, you have to choose wisely, and if you decide to switch, it might be cheaper to sell the bike and buy another with the bars you prefer.
Among flat or upright bar bikes, there's a sliding scale, ranging from "comfort bikes" up to quite sporty hybrids that avoid the "hybrid" stigma by choosing some other term like "flat bar road bike." Also look up "carbon frame hybrid." For the record, my bike with aluminum frame and steel fork is 25 pounds. Some makers offer aluminum frame with carbon fork, which is an economical compromise, and then there are some full carbon models out there as well.
My grocery getter weighs 32 pounds. I started with a relatively light steel road frame, but added fenders, chainguard, internal gear hub, kickstand, rack, and basket. On the other hand, most cities are laid out so that the commercial districts are on relatively flat ground. It's not surprising that the earliest builders in a town chose the flattest portion.
For me, drop bars are a no-go due to a minor neck injury that can get inflamed and then take months to go away. Swept bars that are roughly level with the saddle are my formula for comfort. If your body can tolerate drop bars, you'll probably like them. So it's a dilemma.
The problem with a conversion is that aftermarket parts are expensive, so a converted bike is not an economical choice if you can find something that works right for you from the start. In totally practical terms, you have to choose wisely, and if you decide to switch, it might be cheaper to sell the bike and buy another with the bars you prefer.
Among flat or upright bar bikes, there's a sliding scale, ranging from "comfort bikes" up to quite sporty hybrids that avoid the "hybrid" stigma by choosing some other term like "flat bar road bike." Also look up "carbon frame hybrid." For the record, my bike with aluminum frame and steel fork is 25 pounds. Some makers offer aluminum frame with carbon fork, which is an economical compromise, and then there are some full carbon models out there as well.
My grocery getter weighs 32 pounds. I started with a relatively light steel road frame, but added fenders, chainguard, internal gear hub, kickstand, rack, and basket. On the other hand, most cities are laid out so that the commercial districts are on relatively flat ground. It's not surprising that the earliest builders in a town chose the flattest portion.
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"Flat bar road bike" is a category worth looking into:
https://www.eriksbikeshop.com/cyclin.../style_Flatbar
https://www.eriksbikeshop.com/cyclin.../style_Flatbar
Someone I know already owned the road bike and did the conversion to a flat bar but it was expensive, because the road cassette/derailler/etc needed a special compatible shifter to work with them.
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Is it possible to ride a road bike as a regular bike? Like, lower down that super high seat, swap out the dropped handlebars for flat handlebars (or raise the dropped handlebars higher), and ride it in a more upright comfortable position?
I ask because I want a lightweight bicycle for commuting and groceries, and all of the lightweight bicycles seem to be road bikes built for intense people hunched over in lycra.
Can you recommend any flat/butterfly/moustache-handlebar road bikes that can be ridden comfortably for everyday purposes?
Side question: How do people stop at red lights / stop signs with their ass so high in the air on such a tall seat? Do they slide forward and off the seat, or tilt the bike to the side and put one foot on the ground?
I ask because I want a lightweight bicycle for commuting and groceries, and all of the lightweight bicycles seem to be road bikes built for intense people hunched over in lycra.
Can you recommend any flat/butterfly/moustache-handlebar road bikes that can be ridden comfortably for everyday purposes?
Side question: How do people stop at red lights / stop signs with their ass so high in the air on such a tall seat? Do they slide forward and off the seat, or tilt the bike to the side and put one foot on the ground?
1) road bike with drop bars does not have to have a super high seat to handlebar drop.....
2) buying and converting is expensive.
3) flat bars are not always comfortable.... personally flat bars give me a pain. literally if you don't want drops thing about something that lets your palm be facing to the frame like a north style bar
4) drop bars are not uncomfortable, the allow multiple positions for comrort and being able to go into the drop on a headwind is a blessing
5) riding the hoods with modern shifters is IMHO great for commuting
yes you just slide of of the saddle. To note almost all bikes proper fit should be such that you cannot just put your foot down at a stop
I have commuted for years, primarily on my road bike......which especially when I have had long commutes is more efficient than my upright bike
The bike I commute on the most is at the far right, close to level seat/bars, 105 5800 gear
the one in the middle is real old school and i commute on once in while just for the differnce
the green on on the left is the one i ride mostly just for quick errand on the weekend.... it has the north style bars (nitto in this case) I noted and an upright seating position (note the stem) (i converted an early 80's nishiki to this) I also commute on this, but I like the road for commuting because it is faster, fun and life is too short not to ride your best bike as much as you can
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Devinci has been making flat bar road bikes for years; https://www.devinci.com/bikes/bike_1297_scategory_296
They used to be called hybrids. The OP should be able to find an older Milano, St Tropez, or other similarly 'Euro-city' named Devinci pretty easily.
They used to be called hybrids. The OP should be able to find an older Milano, St Tropez, or other similarly 'Euro-city' named Devinci pretty easily.
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Is it possible to ride a road bike as a regular bike? Like, lower down that super high seat, swap out the dropped handlebars for flat handlebars (or raise the dropped handlebars higher), and ride it in a more upright comfortable position?
I ask because I want a lightweight bicycle for commuting and groceries, and all of the lightweight bicycles seem to be road bikes built for intense people hunched over in lycra.
Can you recommend any flat/butterfly/moustache-handlebar road bikes that can be ridden comfortably for everyday purposes?
Side question: How do people stop at red lights / stop signs with their ass so high in the air on such a tall seat? Do they slide forward and off the seat, or tilt the bike to the side and put one foot on the ground?
I ask because I want a lightweight bicycle for commuting and groceries, and all of the lightweight bicycles seem to be road bikes built for intense people hunched over in lycra.
Can you recommend any flat/butterfly/moustache-handlebar road bikes that can be ridden comfortably for everyday purposes?
Side question: How do people stop at red lights / stop signs with their ass so high in the air on such a tall seat? Do they slide forward and off the seat, or tilt the bike to the side and put one foot on the ground?
Road bikes are regular bikes. Lots of people ride road bikes to work and for errands, including straight up race bikes. Lots of people manage to carry things on bikes, including road bikes. Lots of people find drop bars to be more comfortable than flat bars.
Side answer: coast to stop line, stand on pedal, slide forward off the saddle, put foot down while straddling top tube. On edit: here's a better photo:
While you're waiting, rotate one of the pedals to the 2 o'clock position. When the light turns green, stand on that pedal. As the bike moves forward, sit on the saddle, put your other foot on the other pedal, and carry on your way. So much more comfortable than trying to balance on your tippy toes.
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Is it possible to ride a road bike as a regular bike? Like, lower down that super high seat, swap out the dropped handlebars for flat handlebars (or raise the dropped handlebars higher), and ride it in a more upright comfortable position?
I ask because I want a lightweight bicycle for commuting and groceries, and all of the lightweight bicycles seem to be road bikes built for intense people hunched over in lycra.
Can you recommend any flat/butterfly/moustache-handlebar road bikes that can be ridden comfortably for everyday purposes?
Side question: How do people stop at red lights / stop signs with their ass so high in the air on such a tall seat? Do they slide forward and off the seat, or tilt the bike to the side and put one foot on the ground?
I ask because I want a lightweight bicycle for commuting and groceries, and all of the lightweight bicycles seem to be road bikes built for intense people hunched over in lycra.
Can you recommend any flat/butterfly/moustache-handlebar road bikes that can be ridden comfortably for everyday purposes?
Side question: How do people stop at red lights / stop signs with their ass so high in the air on such a tall seat? Do they slide forward and off the seat, or tilt the bike to the side and put one foot on the ground?
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No, I understand there are pretty strict social guidelines in place about mixing bikes and intended purposes for a reason.
If you want to ride on the road, buy a road bike. If you want to commute, buy a commuter bike. If you want to ride on a mountain, etc etc etc.
These rules are sometimes inconvenient but they’re in place to protect us. Keep it safe out there. Rubber side down etc.
If you want to ride on the road, buy a road bike. If you want to commute, buy a commuter bike. If you want to ride on a mountain, etc etc etc.
These rules are sometimes inconvenient but they’re in place to protect us. Keep it safe out there. Rubber side down etc.
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No, I understand there are pretty strict social guidelines in place about mixing bikes and intended purposes for a reason.
If you want to ride on the road, buy a road bike. If you want to commute, buy a commuter bike. If you want to ride on a mountain, etc etc etc.
These rules are sometimes inconvenient but they’re in place to protect us. Keep it safe out there. Rubber side down etc.
If you want to ride on the road, buy a road bike. If you want to commute, buy a commuter bike. If you want to ride on a mountain, etc etc etc.
These rules are sometimes inconvenient but they’re in place to protect us. Keep it safe out there. Rubber side down etc.
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The Salsa Journeyman line of ... all-road bicycles are sold as both flat-bar and drop bar models. I love them. I'm going to get one. They tick all the o.p.'s boxes. They should get one too. The least expensive runs around $600. Nice bikes can be had for less than that but not a lot less than that. A Trek FX2 or 3 can be had around $400. That is as low as I would go on a new bike.
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Set your seat height for riding, NOT for sitting on it stopped. Where do people get this idea?
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Sounds like a bad idea. A fast, expensive road bike is like a thief magnet.
I wouldn't recommend using an expensive road bike for getting to the grocery store. YOu'll then need to secure the frame, quick release wheels with a long and heavy chain which adds a significant amount of weight to the bike. Defeats the purpose of having a lightweight bike doesn't it?
Maybe for commuting to work - if your office allows you to take your bike inside the office with you.
For commuting, you really don't need a high seat. You can have it low enough so you can simply tilt on one side and put one foot on the ground (around 2 cm below optimal). You only need a proper (high) seat if you're going to cruise above 20 mph which is dangerous in crowded city streets.
I wouldn't recommend using an expensive road bike for getting to the grocery store. YOu'll then need to secure the frame, quick release wheels with a long and heavy chain which adds a significant amount of weight to the bike. Defeats the purpose of having a lightweight bike doesn't it?
Maybe for commuting to work - if your office allows you to take your bike inside the office with you.
For commuting, you really don't need a high seat. You can have it low enough so you can simply tilt on one side and put one foot on the ground (around 2 cm below optimal). You only need a proper (high) seat if you're going to cruise above 20 mph which is dangerous in crowded city streets.
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"Commuter bike as a road bike" is a much harder transition, if you plan on keeping up with others on road bikes.
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For commuting, you really don't need a high seat. You can have it low enough so you can simply tilt on one side and put one foot on the ground (around 2 cm below optimal). You only need a proper (high) seat if you're going to cruise above 20 mph which is dangerous in crowded city streets.
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Sounds like a bad idea. A fast, expensive road bike is like a thief magnet.
I wouldn't recommend using an expensive road bike for getting to the grocery store. YOu'll then need to secure the frame, quick release wheels with a long and heavy chain which adds a significant amount of weight to the bike. Defeats the purpose of having a lightweight bike doesn't it?
I wouldn't recommend using an expensive road bike for getting to the grocery store. YOu'll then need to secure the frame, quick release wheels with a long and heavy chain which adds a significant amount of weight to the bike. Defeats the purpose of having a lightweight bike doesn't it?
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I was just waiting for someone to say "dropper post," now the thread is complete and OP can start another one how he wants a 17# beach cruiser
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I almost fell down a few times zigzagging across vehicles in traffic over uneven parts of the road where I'm still too fast to get off the saddle or unable to brake suddenly (because the motorist behind could rear-end me).
I lowered the seat 2 cm below optimal so I can stick one foot out in times like these and that solved the problem. But because I'm also at max setback adjustment, I'm only 1 cm under optimum leg extension so not a big compromise.
Dropper post is also a neat solution....If you can find one for road bikes!
I lowered the seat 2 cm below optimal so I can stick one foot out in times like these and that solved the problem. But because I'm also at max setback adjustment, I'm only 1 cm under optimum leg extension so not a big compromise.
Dropper post is also a neat solution....If you can find one for road bikes!