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Old 09-15-15, 11:47 AM
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Speaking of pronunciation... MAFAC

How do you pronounce it?

"May-Fack"? (this is how I say it, but I'm sure I'm wrong)
"May-Face"?
"May-Fake"?
"Mah-Fock"? (I can't bring myself do this without giggling)
"Mah-Foss"?

And it the accent on the first or second syllable?
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It's "maa fack", like a sheep going "ba", but NOT like the British "Bah"...Typical French pronunciation. Slight emphasis on the first syllable.
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Originally Posted by xlbs
It's "maa fack", like a sheep going "ba", but NOT like the British "Bah"...Typical French pronunciation. Slight emphasis on the first syllable.
Don't argue with the Canadian's pronounciation, they all know french.
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While we're at it, why don't we revive the MAFAC vs. Mafac capitalization debate? Let pedantry reign!
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Originally Posted by jonwvara
While we're at it, why don't we revive the MAFAC vs. Mafac capitalization debate? Let pedantry reign!
while many consider the pedantapus rex a dinosaur we all know the species to be alive and well here at the forum.
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I pronounce it as the Aflac duck would.
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It's an acronym, right? MAFAC all the way. Perhaps we can use that to extrapolate pronunciation as well.

Manufacture Arvernoise de Freins et Accessoires pour Cycles

m -- long a -- f -- short a -- soft c

Maaf -- ass (seems wrong)
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"seems wrong"

but feels sooo right.
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If it comes up in conversation, imitate the pronunciation used by the person who said it first. If you are going to be that person, say "mayfack."

It's not a French word, and we're not speaking French, so the only rules is : make yourself understood without being a jerk.

Next question: how do the French pronounce "Stronglight?"
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Originally Posted by eschlwc
"seems wrong"

but feels sooo right.
"Is it wrong... or just French!"

The original spelling was M.A.F.A.C. - Manufacture Arvernoise de Freins et Accessoires pour Cycles (Arveni Manufacturing Works for Bicycle Brakes and Accessories).

In the mid 60's Charles André Joseph Marie de Gaulle led the charge to purge the French language of all non French words i.e. television, hamburger, hot dog, car, truck plus thousands of other foreign words!



de Gaulle "la grande Zohra" is dead so you can blame everything on him!


BTW, I always pronounced them MAY-FAK.

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Sounding out~

The factory pads and tin mudguards make the ultimate French horns. Once you get that perfect resonating sound, you then dial it in for slight differential making it two tone! I've also learned to modulate them for volume or control independent sound. Really is comical and in keeping with the French character on my Motobecane.

My other bikes with Racers have Kool Stop pads but I can't get them to replicate that sound.
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Originally Posted by rhm

Next question: how do the French pronounce "Stronglight?"
have always heard it as Verot.
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I pronounce it as "Weinmann" (wine-man)

Actually, don't recall ever riding a bike that had them.
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I pronounce MAFAC as "trash" as in toss them all there...
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Originally Posted by rhm
If it comes up in conversation, imitate the pronunciation used by the person who said it first. If you are going to be that person, say "mayfack."

It's not a French word, and we're not speaking French, so the only rules is : make yourself understood without being a jerk.

Next question: how do the French pronounce "Stronglight?"


I've wondered about that. And how do Italians pronounce "Universal?" Why do they even use English names? I guess Universal is easier than Stronglight.
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I'm not a pedant by any stretch, but all of the French speaking bicycle people I know in Canada always pronounced it as rhyming with "Aflac"---and I know a lot of them. I know that it's an acronym, but it is French, and the rules of French phonetics would suggest that the first "A" is soft, not hard. I also know that our friends down there in the US of A have difficulty with French pronunciation at the best of times. I'm not being a snob, but you folks just don't say it right, just as we Canadians can't say "garage" or "roof" or "about" correctly according to American ears!
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Can we do Faggin next?
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Originally Posted by xlbs
I'm not a pedant by any stretch, but all of the French speaking bicycle people I know in Canada always pronounced it as rhyming with "Aflac"---and I know a lot of them. I know that it's an acronym, but it is French, and the rules of French phonetics would suggest that the first "A" is soft, not hard. I also know that our friends down there in the US of A have difficulty with French pronunciation at the best of times. I'm not being a snob, but you folks just don't say it right, just as we Canadians can't say "garage" or "roof" or "about" correctly according to American ears!
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Veetoos....Veetoos......Veetoos......Veetoos........
No, not the sound from a French Ambulance or police car siren, but how a French bicycle and steel tubing brand is pronounced....
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Originally Posted by xlbs
I'm not a pedant by any stretch, but all of the French speaking bicycle people I know in Canada ...
... are speaking French. As long as we are speaking English, what does it matter how it is pronounced by the Quebecois, or the French (or indeed any people who speak a language other than English)?

The French have their own way of pronouncing many words, such as "Paris" and "France" and "hamburger." When we speak French, these things matter. When we speak English, not so much.
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I think Deore would be a good candidate for the next pronunciation thread. "Dee-or-ay" or "Dee-or"?
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"mo'fo"

As in "mo'fo brakes don't stop."
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Originally Posted by jpaschall
I think Deore would be a good candidate for the next pronunciation thread. "Dee-or-ay" or "Dee-or"?
Ever since I was told the correct pronunciation of Dura-Ace is "DOOra-AHchay," I've been pointing out the Race Face crank set on my MTB and telling my friends it's a genuine "RAHchay FAHchay"

I don't seem to have a lot of friends anymore.
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