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Old 12-09-06, 10:38 PM
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What are these bars? I want a real name.

What are these bars called?

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Originally Posted by DavidARayJaxNC
What are these bars called?

"North-Road". Unquestionably the most comfortable upright handlebar ever concieved, and my only bar of choice for upright-bar machines (flat bars belong on MTBs that are used offroad, and nowhere else, thank you!)

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One of the most comfortable, versatile bars out there. I love the steel Nitto Northroad version.

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I was thinking about using these bars on my touring bike. I have 3 sets, if anyone else wants a set. How all canyou set them up, you say versitile, does that mean it has many hand positions that work well?
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Hi David,
We've been e-mailing back and forth. The versatility question is one best directed at drops or certain other types in my opinion. North Road bars are, like Cudak888 says, extremely comfortable just the way they are. I alluded to this in my last e-mail to you. The thing about this type of arrangement is this: If you dial-in the saddle height (using the proper model saddle)with the grip height and angle, you get the benefit of avoiding the 'happy hands' thing that afflicts so many riders using other types. With drop bars, you need multiple positions because none of them is completely natural for very long. With North Roads, you may find that you're in the sweet spot from the get-go.

Go ahead and try them on a touring bike. The pics I sent you show my Trek520 with those installed. Also that MTB. Note that the grips are just a tad higher than the saddle. Start there. Tilt the saddle up and move it forward until you have minimal pressure on your hands but no so far that you get uncomfortable on the saddle. My rule of thumb is: Spine aligned with seat stays when using North Roads.

I've done several centuries on both bikes with this set-up with no problems except some headwind on occasion. If you absolutely must have maximum aero efficiency, these ain't for you. Remember that you create your own headwind over 13mph, so you won't be as zippy in most cases as the guys on the race bikes. These are utilitarian, all purpose handlebars, and are by far the most ergo-correct there is.

Set them up with ordinary MTB brake levers. You can use thumb shifters or bar-ends off the tour bike. The grip sleeves will secure the shifter cables with the bar-ends. Your stem clamp will need to accept the 25.4mm clamp area of the bars.
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Seely: those are very pretty but they don't look like NorthRoads. Are they Albatross upside down? Nice bike.

These are North Roads upside down for comparison:

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Originally Posted by cudak888
"North-Road". Unquestionably the most comfortable upright handlebar ever concieved, and my only bar of choice for upright-bar machines (flat bars belong on MTBs that are used offroad, and nowhere else, thank you!)-Kurt
I beg to differ. I've North Roads on the majority of my bikes. In fact NRs are perfect on recumbents. But on 3 bikes I care more about long distance comfort than the classic look. Here's my "day long ride" setup.



JCM: The bars on your grey bike are what I think of when I hear "North Road bend". But I've seen bars with everything from 30 degree to 70 degree bends and anywhere from 1" to 4" rise sold as "North Road". Seely's bars certainly look like Nitto NRs to me.

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Where can I get some steel Northroads?
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Yea, I am planning on throwing those on today, I have stem shifter so all I have to do is pop the brake cable on the new bars. Is wald like an old TD One? Maker of old low end parts? Never heard of them before these bars.
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Originally Posted by Dirtdrop
Where can I get some steel Northroads?
Harris Cyclery has Nitto Northroad bars for $30.
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I have 3 or 4 sets, I need one. If anyone wants to trade. They are all New Old Stock bars from the early 70's I am pretty sure.
I need a good set of bar end shifters or a set of candy c pedals.
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Do you think a good set of aero bars would be a good idea?

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Originally Posted by barba
Harris Cyclery has Nitto Northroad bars for $30.
Harris sells Nitto aluminum Northroads. Bar end shifters won't fit. You can only put Bar end shifters on 7/8" diameter bars if they're steel or heat treated aluminum. The wall thickness is too great on a standard 7/8" diameter aluminum bar. That's why I'm looking for steel.
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I have steel ones Those should work. Right?
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Originally Posted by jcm
Seely: those are very pretty but they don't look like NorthRoads. Are they Albatross upside down? Nice bike.
Thanks, and ditto to your bikes, but believe it or not, they are actual Nitto Northroads, flipped and chopped a bit.
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[QUOTE=MnHPVA Guy]I beg to differ. I've North Roads on the majority of my bikes. In fact NRs are perfect on recumbents. But on 3 bikes I care more about long distance comfort than the classic look. Here's my "day long ride" setup.



Can you tell me where I can get brake levers like that?
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Originally Posted by seely
Thanks, and ditto to your bikes, but believe it or not, they are actual Nitto Northroads, flipped and chopped a bit.
are you sure? The REALLY look like moustache (sp?) bars.
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Originally Posted by jcm
Seely: those are very pretty but they don't look like NorthRoads. Are they Albatross upside down?
I think jcm is correct there. Those bars don't have as much rise or reach as North Road bars.

Originally Posted by jcm
These are North Roads upside down for comparison
I don't think so...those look like MTB "riser" bars upside down.

North Road bars have the grip region more swept back. The bars in the photos appear to have the grips at about a 45 degree angle to the top tube, though it's tough to tell from the angle the photo was made from. They also appear to have less reach than true North Road bars.

Most English made 3-speeds that were sold in the U.S. have North Road bars (Though in England, the straighter "all rounder" style is more common.)

See also: https://sheldonbrown.com/gloss_n-o.html#northroad

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https://www.bikepartsusa.com/product_info.asp?f_c=handlebar&cp=6&p=01%2D109944

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Where can I get some steel Northroads?
Bike Parts USA has steel Northroads. Both Wald #8095 and also a Pyramid brand. They also are one of the few places that I found to carry Kenda 1 3/8 S-6 Schwinn style tires in a gumwall.

https://www.bikepartsusa.com/product_...&p=01%2D109944
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Originally Posted by DavidARayJaxNC
Can you tell me where I can get brake levers like that?
Nope. They're Delta Ergo levers which went out of production about 10 years ago. I bought 10 sets at close out. I'm down to 3 sets left and they aren't for sale.
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Originally Posted by Dirtdrop
Harris sells Nitto aluminum Northroads. Bar end shifters won't fit. You can only put Bar end shifters on 7/8" diameter bars if they're steel or heat treated aluminum. The wall thickness is too great on a standard 7/8" diameter aluminum bar. That's why I'm looking for steel.
Do you have a drill press, capable of drilling 7/8" holes in 3/4" thich aluminum, and 3/4" & 7/8" drill bits? If so, I can tell you how to make a simple fixture that will allow you to reliably and accurately drill out the ends of the bars to fit bar end shifters.
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Originally Posted by cyclotoine
are you sure? The REALLY look like moustache (sp?) bars.
Well, I ordered North Road bars from QBP, and got those bars in a sleeve with a sticker on it that said "Nitto North Road". This is interesting. I did chop them quite a bit, perhaps thats part of the issue? I suppose its possible QBP has their bars mislabeled?


This is the bar I have: https://www.webcyclery.com/product.ph...cat=455&page=1

From another angle:

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I begin to see it now, that is a very nice international BTW.
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Originally Posted by MnHPVA Guy
Do you have a drill press, capable of drilling 7/8" holes in 3/4" thich aluminum, and 3/4" & 7/8" drill bits? If so, I can tell you how to make a simple fixture that will allow you to reliably and accurately drill out the ends of the bars to fit bar end shifters.
I've got the drill press, but not the bits. I think they'd cost me more than the bars. Thanks anyway. I think I found some steel ones.

Wouldn't it be easier to modify the shifters?
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Originally Posted by Dirtdrop
Wouldn't it be easier to modify the shifters?
I wouldn't know where to begin.

Took about 20 minutes to make the fixture and drill the 1st set of bars. I've done about 10 sets since and each takes about 10 minutes, including set-up time.
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