Any of you have experience using frame saver or other products?
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Seems to me that a hole at bottom of shell would be counter productive.
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Hi, I'm usually in touring and occasionally in the mechanics section. I've bought a used steel bike that has not been ridden much, but has some little rust issues.
It's a 3 or 4 year old Surly Troll, and I plan to take the hollowtech bb off, partly to learn how to work on them, but also to make sure everything is well greased. I'm going to open up the hubs as well, so that I'm sure of the condition of all the bits and not have any guessing on grease quantity or contamination.
I figure I can pull the fork off and do a frame saver job while it's apart.
It seems that the spray cans of Frame Saver" are not easily found around here, so do you have personal experience using linseed oil, or other products?
No matter what I use, I realise I'll need to be careful of the bb threads and not let them get gummed up.
So from experience, are the canned products worth getting, or are things like Boeshield or linseed going to do a reasonable job?
The bike was kept in a damp barn like structure, there is just a bit of internal surface rust in the tubes, so I figure it's worth taking the time to do this now when I take things apart, and then never think of it again.
Any suggestions, comments or preferences would be good to read.
Thanks
It's a 3 or 4 year old Surly Troll, and I plan to take the hollowtech bb off, partly to learn how to work on them, but also to make sure everything is well greased. I'm going to open up the hubs as well, so that I'm sure of the condition of all the bits and not have any guessing on grease quantity or contamination.
I figure I can pull the fork off and do a frame saver job while it's apart.
It seems that the spray cans of Frame Saver" are not easily found around here, so do you have personal experience using linseed oil, or other products?
No matter what I use, I realise I'll need to be careful of the bb threads and not let them get gummed up.
So from experience, are the canned products worth getting, or are things like Boeshield or linseed going to do a reasonable job?
The bike was kept in a damp barn like structure, there is just a bit of internal surface rust in the tubes, so I figure it's worth taking the time to do this now when I take things apart, and then never think of it again.
Any suggestions, comments or preferences would be good to read.
Thanks
Every time I look inside the headtube into the top and bottom tubes, there is no rust. Also from BB to ST and DT
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The benefit of a drain hole may depend on where you live. I became a believer years ago when a relatively new bottom bracket died on me and disassembly found a tablespoon of silt that had somehow washed in there and never left.
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I put boiled linseed oil in my Karate Monkey three years ago but never checked in the tubes
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update: not sure if I mentioned, but after asking around at various bike stores here in Montreal, and even in some car body shops, I was never able to find either Frame Saver or any Amsoil products, so in the end just ordered a small can of Frame Saver from the states and picked it up eventually when I received some other bike parts from Oregon sent to a US PO box in Vermont close to where friends live.
as many of you said, its pretty much a simple process, I did appreciate having an aerosol can and small tube to easily get it into small holes at ends of the chainstays or whatever. I pretty much used common sense in terms of moving frame all around to ensure the stuff moved around on all surfaces, and waited the suggested couple of days before putting parts back on.
I also did liberally put regular old automotive grease from an old tub I have, all over the bb shell threads and headset areas, and plastic bags over the disc calipers, as indeed the stuff did drip out all over, and I didnt want to have to deal with it in places I didnt want it and be a pain in the keester to get out.
thanks for the all the recommendations.
Was it necessary to do? Probably not, but it was worth the extra time given that I wanted to take apart the Hollowtech bb anyway to see how it works, and I did the drop bar change afterwards, so all the cables+housings were coming off.
as many of you said, its pretty much a simple process, I did appreciate having an aerosol can and small tube to easily get it into small holes at ends of the chainstays or whatever. I pretty much used common sense in terms of moving frame all around to ensure the stuff moved around on all surfaces, and waited the suggested couple of days before putting parts back on.
I also did liberally put regular old automotive grease from an old tub I have, all over the bb shell threads and headset areas, and plastic bags over the disc calipers, as indeed the stuff did drip out all over, and I didnt want to have to deal with it in places I didnt want it and be a pain in the keester to get out.
thanks for the all the recommendations.
Was it necessary to do? Probably not, but it was worth the extra time given that I wanted to take apart the Hollowtech bb anyway to see how it works, and I did the drop bar change afterwards, so all the cables+housings were coming off.
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I poured a bunch of frame saver into an old steel frame of mine. Stupidly I didn't remove the BB. The stuff washed the grease out of it pronto and I had to rebuild it. Otherwise it probably worked fine, not that I'd ever had a problem with the frame.
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Heck, I've done all kinds of moves like that over the years, with cars, motorcycles, bikes, household stuff.
I generally classify myself as a bumbler, often I bumble way through repair things. Such is life and sometimes you just have to laugh at yourself.
I generally classify myself as a bumbler, often I bumble way through repair things. Such is life and sometimes you just have to laugh at yourself.
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Another aviation product that can be used is ACF 50. It is a purple colored liquid about as thick as water. It doesn't put on a thick protective layer like LPS 3 does, but will seep into all the cracks and crevasses that water will get into and work its magic. Over time it will attract dirt but not as fast as the heavier coatings like LPS 3.
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thanks for the suggestion, but I'm sure the can of Frame Saver I have will sit on a shelf for the next decade or two....
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