Reliable and Competent Alberta Vintage Bicycle Restoration Services
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Reliable and Competent Alberta Vintage Bicycle Restoration Services
Hello, I am asking for all your help in locating a competent vintage bicycle restorer in Alberta, Canada to restore my 1985 Pinarello Montello. I am nervous about shipping!
I need the following services done:
1. Remove the Mavic Headset (which need special Mavic tools) safely and without damage.
2. Remove the 1 stripped Dust cap for Mavic Crankset and then remove the Crankset and clean/grease.
2. Touch up the the 4 colour Arco LA 84 paint scheme(Red, Yellow, Blue, White) and apply supplied decals. If not able to match paint, I may be persuaded to have all paint stripped, remove any frame rust if any, repaint and redecal to original specs.
3. Regrease and reassemble all components to frame.
Below are the frame and components list.
Frame: 1985 Montello, Columbus SLX with Campy dropouts, Top Tube internal cable routing, Pinarello Initials pantographed
Head Tube Badge: Pinned Metal Badge - not a decal
Headset: Mavic 310 or 312 - 1985
Forks: Columbus, chrome, Pinarello pantographed
Complete Mavic Groupset -1984 or 85
Crankset: Mavic 630 9/16" x 20 (English)
Chainrings: Mavic 144BCD 42-53
Brakes: Modolo Master Pro
Brake levers: Modolo Master Pro
Rear Derailleur: Mavic 851 SSC
Hubs: Mavic 580 CX
Rims Mavic MA40
Rear Cassette: Regina - Extra BX 13-21
Handlebars: Cycloman Mod. Starling
Stem: Pinarello stamped
Seatpost: American Classic
Saddle: Super Turbo
Tires: Michelin Krylion 700 x 23C
I look forward to any help you may be able to give.
Thanks very much.
I need the following services done:
1. Remove the Mavic Headset (which need special Mavic tools) safely and without damage.
2. Remove the 1 stripped Dust cap for Mavic Crankset and then remove the Crankset and clean/grease.
2. Touch up the the 4 colour Arco LA 84 paint scheme(Red, Yellow, Blue, White) and apply supplied decals. If not able to match paint, I may be persuaded to have all paint stripped, remove any frame rust if any, repaint and redecal to original specs.
3. Regrease and reassemble all components to frame.
Below are the frame and components list.
Frame: 1985 Montello, Columbus SLX with Campy dropouts, Top Tube internal cable routing, Pinarello Initials pantographed
Head Tube Badge: Pinned Metal Badge - not a decal
Headset: Mavic 310 or 312 - 1985
Forks: Columbus, chrome, Pinarello pantographed
Complete Mavic Groupset -1984 or 85
Crankset: Mavic 630 9/16" x 20 (English)
Chainrings: Mavic 144BCD 42-53
Brakes: Modolo Master Pro
Brake levers: Modolo Master Pro
Rear Derailleur: Mavic 851 SSC
Hubs: Mavic 580 CX
Rims Mavic MA40
Rear Cassette: Regina - Extra BX 13-21
Handlebars: Cycloman Mod. Starling
Stem: Pinarello stamped
Seatpost: American Classic
Saddle: Super Turbo
Tires: Michelin Krylion 700 x 23C
I look forward to any help you may be able to give.
Thanks very much.
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i know you have the other thread going.... but may I suggest just find a shop versed in C&V bikes and have then do the mechancal.... you can help by sourcing hard to find things like dustcaps, brake hoods etc. wash and wax the frame and keep the wear and tear. then if if ever becomes a wall hanger (but don't sell your self short...keep on it as long as possible and look at other bikes pedal assist, trike etc to keep going longer) it is a piece of your history with wear tear and all just a thought
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Maybe reach out to all/most of the shops in your area and ask, dial in your spidey sense and maybe two of them recommend the same thing, research that.
Funny the shop you went to just botched it and offered no resolution or other help, I would have encouraged them to help figure something out before I left.
I always ask who the "vintage" guy is when I walk in then have a "spirited" conversation to suss out their level of enthusiasm and skill.
If the 20-30 something year old walks up and and says um or huh? I move on as I am usually looking for another opinion about something I have minimal specific experience with before I dig in.
Not that there aren't plenty of competent lads out there but many of them do not embrace C+V much if at all for the threadless, cartridge, disposable situation we find ourselves in.
I will probably never embrace modern technology as long as I can preserve, save, prolong and maintain what we have, most of it can live forever with some wit, patience, skill and plenty of good tools.
Funny the shop you went to just botched it and offered no resolution or other help, I would have encouraged them to help figure something out before I left.
I always ask who the "vintage" guy is when I walk in then have a "spirited" conversation to suss out their level of enthusiasm and skill.
If the 20-30 something year old walks up and and says um or huh? I move on as I am usually looking for another opinion about something I have minimal specific experience with before I dig in.
Not that there aren't plenty of competent lads out there but many of them do not embrace C+V much if at all for the threadless, cartridge, disposable situation we find ourselves in.
I will probably never embrace modern technology as long as I can preserve, save, prolong and maintain what we have, most of it can live forever with some wit, patience, skill and plenty of good tools.
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Maybe reach out to all/most of the shops in your area and ask, dial in your spidey sense and maybe two of them recommend the same thing, research that.
Funny the shop you went to just botched it and offered no resolution or other help, I would have encouraged them to help figure something out before I left.
I always ask who the "vintage" guy is when I walk in then have a "spirited" conversation to suss out their level of enthusiasm and skill.
If the 20-30 something year old walks up and and says um or huh? I move on as I am usually looking for another opinion about something I have minimal specific experience with before I dig in.
Not that there aren't plenty of competent lads out there but many of them do not embrace C+V much if at all for the threadless, cartridge, disposable situation we find ourselves in.
I will probably never embrace modern technology as long as I can preserve, save, prolong and maintain what we have, most of it can live forever with some wit, patience, skill and plenty of good tools.
Funny the shop you went to just botched it and offered no resolution or other help, I would have encouraged them to help figure something out before I left.
I always ask who the "vintage" guy is when I walk in then have a "spirited" conversation to suss out their level of enthusiasm and skill.
If the 20-30 something year old walks up and and says um or huh? I move on as I am usually looking for another opinion about something I have minimal specific experience with before I dig in.
Not that there aren't plenty of competent lads out there but many of them do not embrace C+V much if at all for the threadless, cartridge, disposable situation we find ourselves in.
I will probably never embrace modern technology as long as I can preserve, save, prolong and maintain what we have, most of it can live forever with some wit, patience, skill and plenty of good tools.
Take care, going to have dinner and start cleaning the brake components!!
Cheers.
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i know you have the other thread going.... but may I suggest just find a shop versed in C&V bikes and have then do the mechancal.... you can help by sourcing hard to find things like dustcaps, brake hoods etc. wash and wax the frame and keep the wear and tear. then if if ever becomes a wall hanger (but don't sell your self short...keep on it as long as possible and look at other bikes pedal assist, trike etc to keep going longer) it is a piece of your history with wear tear and all just a thought
Thanks for the input!1
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I would offer to help but I don't have any Mavic tools. You could try Mike at Vita Sports on Edmonton Trail.
https://vitasportcycles.ca/shop/ols/.../vintage-bikes
He specialized in Vintage bikes so he would likely be your best bet. I don't know if he does paint. Do let me know if that works for you.
https://vitasportcycles.ca/shop/ols/.../vintage-bikes
He specialized in Vintage bikes so he would likely be your best bet. I don't know if he does paint. Do let me know if that works for you.
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I would offer to help but I don't have any Mavic tools. You could try Mike at Vita Sports on Edmonton Trail.
https://vitasportcycles.ca/shop/ols/.../vintage-bikes
He specialized in Vintage bikes so he would likely be your best bet. I don't know if he does paint. Do let me know if that works for you.
https://vitasportcycles.ca/shop/ols/.../vintage-bikes
He specialized in Vintage bikes so he would likely be your best bet. I don't know if he does paint. Do let me know if that works for you.
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just be forewarned this forum believes in n+1 and we are all enablers.....another idea is in addtion to getting this one in peak condition, you might try to find similar an put modern gear on it.......I know as i get "more experienced" i really like the compact crank, big cassette and dual pivot brake set up...... but still run friction downtube on another bike.
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Reach out to Marinoni if you haven't for recommendations just to see and talk about paint too. They will be glad to help if they can.
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I would offer to help but I don't have any Mavic tools. You could try Mike at Vita Sports on Edmonton Trail.
https://vitasportcycles.ca/shop/ols/.../vintage-bikes
He specialized in Vintage bikes so he would likely be your best bet. I don't know if he does paint. Do let me know if that works for you.
https://vitasportcycles.ca/shop/ols/.../vintage-bikes
He specialized in Vintage bikes so he would likely be your best bet. I don't know if he does paint. Do let me know if that works for you.
Thanks very much for your help.
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Thanks very much.
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They are familiar with any and all, doubt there is anything they have not had to wrestle with. They may have a resource closer to you as well but the rec above sounds promising maybe they know him as well.
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What would be the best way for me to show you a lot of closeup photos of the frame so that you could see what I am facing in regards to what route to go with touch up frame or stripping down to a complete repaint. (which would also let me see it's conditions and if there are any surprises under the paint which might not be great for continued riding)
Should I just post them here or create a web gallery off of my personal site?
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I do not see where their services are...
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I would offer to help but I don't have any Mavic tools. You could try Mike at Vita Sports on Edmonton Trail.
https://vitasportcycles.ca/shop/ols/.../vintage-bikes
He specialized in Vintage bikes so he would likely be your best bet. I don't know if he does paint. Do let me know if that works for you.
https://vitasportcycles.ca/shop/ols/.../vintage-bikes
He specialized in Vintage bikes so he would likely be your best bet. I don't know if he does paint. Do let me know if that works for you.
Thanks very much for your help.
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The group I ride with spans from late 50's to 70. Mostly backroads, touring, and mountain biking. You are right, it is not always about the speed.
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Are you talking about the original Marioni in Quebec? This one? Cycles Marinoni Inc.
I do not see where their services are...
I do not see where their services are...
Look up and watch "The Fire in the Frame", fantastic insight into them and all they do.
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Thanks.
What would be the best way for me to show you a lot of closeup photos of the frame so that you could see what I am facing in regards to what route to go with touch up frame or stripping down to a complete repaint. (which would also let me see it's conditions and if there are any surprises under the paint which might not be great for continued riding)
Should I just post them here or create a web gallery off of my personal site?
What would be the best way for me to show you a lot of closeup photos of the frame so that you could see what I am facing in regards to what route to go with touch up frame or stripping down to a complete repaint. (which would also let me see it's conditions and if there are any surprises under the paint which might not be great for continued riding)
Should I just post them here or create a web gallery off of my personal site?
Not likely there is anything to keep you from riding it, didn't see anything scary in the pics you posted so far better detail would be good.
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Hey, many thanks for that!! Had a look at his site and it didn't look like he does the painting but if he could at least let me know if he could remove the headset and crank safely then I would be moving in the right direction. I found one headset tool on ebay, and hopefully will find the other one, then I would be halfway there and able to start the paint and decals. I'll call him tomorrow or Monday.
Thanks very much for your help.
Thanks very much for your help.
He could very well be "the" guy you need for all of this.
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Yes, that's the one and only, they have been doing this for a very long time and have unequaled experience in every aspect of all things from shipping to refinishing and everything in between.
Look up and watch "The Fire in the Frame", fantastic insight into them and all they do.
Look up and watch "The Fire in the Frame", fantastic insight into them and all they do.
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https://www.pmrphotography.ca/bicyclerestoration
Cheers