If "Drewing" is removing braze-ons from a vintage bike, what do you call this?
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If "Drewing" is removing braze-ons from a vintage bike, what do you call this?
Inter-10 with modern Components
I like vintage frames but I also like freehubs, 9 speed cassettes and indexed shifting. Another modern component I really like is dual pivot sidepulls. I traded my way into a full 531 frame, an Astro-Damlier Inter-10. It takes 57mm drop brakes, room for 32mm tires and fenders is a must for me.
It's a vintage 1978 frame and fork only with headset. I worked at the shop this frame came out of and I probably assembled it new out of the box when I was in high school. Over the ensuing 35 years it didn’t get ridden much but the paint was trashed. The bike store owner ended up with the bike last year and he parted out all the components, only the frame was left. This made it an ideal candidate for an complete makeover including paint.
OK, time for the anti-Drew:
I spread the rear triangle to 132.5mm so I could use 130mm and 135mm rear wheels. I didn’t want to bother with old-school bolt on cable stops and guides so I had various items brazed on.
Top tube cable guides:
Down tube H2O bosses and campy bottom bracket cable guides:
Down tube cable stops (for the brifters):
Seat tube H2O bosses:
Chain stay diver helmet:
Rack bosses:
Allen bolt brakes needed to be adapted (I already had them in my bin and I didn't want to buy nutted ones)
Dual pivot brakes:
Next step is to strip all the old paint and prep the frame in some Oxcilac acid to remove all the rust.
I like vintage frames but I also like freehubs, 9 speed cassettes and indexed shifting. Another modern component I really like is dual pivot sidepulls. I traded my way into a full 531 frame, an Astro-Damlier Inter-10. It takes 57mm drop brakes, room for 32mm tires and fenders is a must for me.
It's a vintage 1978 frame and fork only with headset. I worked at the shop this frame came out of and I probably assembled it new out of the box when I was in high school. Over the ensuing 35 years it didn’t get ridden much but the paint was trashed. The bike store owner ended up with the bike last year and he parted out all the components, only the frame was left. This made it an ideal candidate for an complete makeover including paint.
OK, time for the anti-Drew:
I spread the rear triangle to 132.5mm so I could use 130mm and 135mm rear wheels. I didn’t want to bother with old-school bolt on cable stops and guides so I had various items brazed on.
Top tube cable guides:
Down tube H2O bosses and campy bottom bracket cable guides:
Down tube cable stops (for the brifters):
Seat tube H2O bosses:
Chain stay diver helmet:
Rack bosses:
Allen bolt brakes needed to be adapted (I already had them in my bin and I didn't want to buy nutted ones)
Dual pivot brakes:
Next step is to strip all the old paint and prep the frame in some Oxcilac acid to remove all the rust.
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I don't think I would have wanted to breath that burning paint though. I am just too cautious in my middle age.
I don't think I would have wanted to breath that burning paint though. I am just too cautious in my middle age.
05-01-14, 07:37 AM
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I approve 
When it's painted, it will look pretty good. An inter-10 is the right sort of frame for this kind of thing --- not so desirable as a collector, but very much a good riding frame.
FWIW Weigle calls these "Creative restorations" --- adding modern features to an older frame to freshen it up.
When it's painted, it will look pretty good. An inter-10 is the right sort of frame for this kind of thing --- not so desirable as a collector, but very much a good riding frame.
FWIW Weigle calls these "Creative restorations" --- adding modern features to an older frame to freshen it up.
05-01-14, 10:43 AM
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I'll bet you end up w/ a bike you really enjoy riding, but then I am kind of biased in favor of Austrian bikes, even if from Vienna instead of Graz. 
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05-01-14, 10:59 AM
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"An improvement" I did a similiar thing to a frame that was drewed. Put the eylets back on, cleaned up the added bottle cage bosses, added STI adjustable cable stops on the DT, Rack bosses on the CS and a pump peg on the HT. Ground down the parting lines on the BB and cleaned up the crown parting lines as well as a couple of brazed spots. It was a 84 Trek 610. I will be going the opposite direction in terms of componants, they will be 12 years older than the frame. I don't want to call it a Frankenbike because my name isn't Frank. It won't really be a 610 due to the changes. I call it a PaTrek 650.
I don't think I will bore everyone with more of the same pics. For the OP, here is a link to the brazing pics, https://www.flickr.com/photos/112094...7638854134794/ and the first build before paint, https://www.flickr.com/photos/112094...7638854134744/. Sort of a preview of coming attractions without the paint.
I don't think I will bore everyone with more of the same pics. For the OP, here is a link to the brazing pics, https://www.flickr.com/photos/112094...7638854134794/ and the first build before paint, https://www.flickr.com/photos/112094...7638854134744/. Sort of a preview of coming attractions without the paint.
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Very nice project. IMHO, if you're going to repaint a vintage frame worth putting to good use, why not update it? Kinda like a constructeur job.
I'd also add the chain hanger nub, possibly bosses on the fork for racks and lights. A boss on the seat tube for mounting a rear LED blinkie.
I'd also add the chain hanger nub, possibly bosses on the fork for racks and lights. A boss on the seat tube for mounting a rear LED blinkie.
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@WNG good suggestions! I thought ofall of them but boss on the seat tube! I was going to keep a rear rack on mine and mount the tailight on it. Were you thinking of a location like this?
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^ Yes, it's an ideal spot for a modern vertically aligned blinkie, and if you're running sidepulls. Eliminate that clamp that usually goes over a frame tube decal. 
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Looks great. Just me, but I would have installed regular DT shifter mounts, under BB cable guides, and mounted the chainstay cable stop on the bottom side of the tube.
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Origins of the name/word "Drew"...???
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supposedly, the name of the guy who was very excited about cutting off the eyeletts on his low end bike so it would look like a "race" bike! My Trek was one of his products!
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I call it "undrewing" but I reserve that term for examples where it really clashes with the bike. Like if you take an early 50's Paramount or something, and make it into something like a 70's Paramount, what's the point of that? In this case, I'm all for it.
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I approve
When it's painted, it will look pretty good. An inter-10 is the right sort of frame for this kind of thing --- not so desirable as a collector, but very much a good riding frame.
FWIW Weigle calls these "Creative restorations" --- adding modern features to an older frame to freshen it up.
When it's painted, it will look pretty good. An inter-10 is the right sort of frame for this kind of thing --- not so desirable as a collector, but very much a good riding frame.
FWIW Weigle calls these "Creative restorations" --- adding modern features to an older frame to freshen it up.
This is a text book example of how to go about making a vintage hot rod. That's the perfect frame for this project and I dig your modifications. Looking forward to seeing how this turns out!
What color are you painting it?
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That process is actually best defined as "improvement".
That process is actually best defined as "improvement".
05-01-14, 04:24 PM
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See the original here: https://www.bikeforums.net/classic-vi...-can-tell.html
Post 23 confirms my suspicions.
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Sweet! You are going to like it. Here's my Austro-Daimler SLE, same purple, running 10sp STIs. It's my daily commuter. It has fenders with 28 Gaters now and I don't think 32's would fit with the fenders.
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Thanks for all the kind words. Going back and doing this was a flashback to my high school daze ( I started there when I was 15). Ron was in and out, Wally helped me do the prepping. These guys are masters at their craft, I've always used what I learned there throughout my adult life.
It's not really updated with the exception of the brifter DT adjuster/cable stops and the rack bosses. Everything else added to this frame was available and common on high end bike frames back in 1978. I didn't use under the BB guide specifically because they weren't common when this frame was new. Back then nothing was cooler than brazed on Campy guides on a 531 frame. Pretty sure it's still true today but that might be the beer talking.
It's not really updated with the exception of the brifter DT adjuster/cable stops and the rack bosses. Everything else added to this frame was available and common on high end bike frames back in 1978. I didn't use under the BB guide specifically because they weren't common when this frame was new. Back then nothing was cooler than brazed on Campy guides on a 531 frame. Pretty sure it's still true today but that might be the beer talking.
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I'd have to call it good thinking and making a nice frame suit your purpose the correct way. Very nicely done, please post pictures when you have it painted and built up.
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Oooh, the Anti-Drew. You two should get together. Would save you both a lot of time.
05-02-14, 11:37 AM
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A very useful braze-on on my now-departed '82 Trek 620 was the chain hanger peg on the inside of the driveside seatstay, just above the FW. Loved it.
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