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Hey does anyone know person or company that may be able to convert a rim brake bike to a disc brake? I know i can change the front fork to one that has the mounts, but the back derailleur fork I think has to be drilled or welded? Reason being I just got some carbon rims and don’t want to wear them down with my rim brakes. Please help with advice and/or direction.
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Putting a rear disc brake mount on is a major undertaking. You could just install a disc brake up front and use it for the majority of your braking, which is good practice anyway. This would minimize but not eliminate rear wheel wear. Using proper brake shoes and keeping the free from debris will also be helpful.
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Hey does anyone know person or company that may be able to convert a rim brake bike to a disc brake? I know i can change the front fork to one that has the mounts, but the back derailleur fork I think has to be drilled or welded? Reason being I just got some carbon rims and don’t want to wear them down with my rim brakes. Please help with advice and/or direction.
Generally no you can't just turn a rim brake bike into a disc brake bike nor can you convert a rim brake hub to a disc brake hub. If you are running disc brakes you will need a 135mm, 142, 148 or wider rear triangle and either I.S., Post or Flat mounts for your disc brakes front and rear. On steel frames you could potentially weld an I.S. tab but again you need the spacing and the proper hubs. If you don't want to wear down carbon rims don't use them and they will never get worn down however properly made carbon rims for rim brakes are designed for rim brakes when using the proper brake pads.
If you are interested in disc brakes I would look at a more modern disc brake bike with thru axles and keep the rim brake bike (N+1). I personally love my rim brake road bike and have no huge want to go with discs on it. I have excellent brakes, pads and cables/housing along with decent levers. If I were to replace the bike I would probably go disc brakes but I have no need to replace the bike right now.
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I like the lack of information you have given, it really helps us give you help.
Generally no you can't just turn a rim brake bike into a disc brake bike nor can you convert a rim brake hub to a disc brake hub. If you are running disc brakes you will need a 135mm, 142, 148 or wider rear triangle and either I.S., Post or Flat mounts for your disc brakes front and rear. On steel frames you could potentially weld an I.S. tab but again you need the spacing and the proper hubs. If you don't want to wear down carbon rims don't use them and they will never get worn down however properly made carbon rims for rim brakes are designed for rim brakes when using the proper brake pads.
If you are interested in disc brakes I would look at a more modern disc brake bike with thru axles and keep the rim brake bike (N+1). I personally love my rim brake road bike and have no huge want to go with discs on it. I have excellent brakes, pads and cables/housing along with decent levers. If I were to replace the bike I would probably go disc brakes but I have no need to replace the bike right now.
Generally no you can't just turn a rim brake bike into a disc brake bike nor can you convert a rim brake hub to a disc brake hub. If you are running disc brakes you will need a 135mm, 142, 148 or wider rear triangle and either I.S., Post or Flat mounts for your disc brakes front and rear. On steel frames you could potentially weld an I.S. tab but again you need the spacing and the proper hubs. If you don't want to wear down carbon rims don't use them and they will never get worn down however properly made carbon rims for rim brakes are designed for rim brakes when using the proper brake pads.
If you are interested in disc brakes I would look at a more modern disc brake bike with thru axles and keep the rim brake bike (N+1). I personally love my rim brake road bike and have no huge want to go with discs on it. I have excellent brakes, pads and cables/housing along with decent levers. If I were to replace the bike I would probably go disc brakes but I have no need to replace the bike right now.
I humbly apologize for the lack of information, I use a Fuji roubaix 2010 model. The frame is aluminum with carbon forks, but the back bottom derailleur fork is alloy. the bike I plan to get is a considerable upgrade for performance. and just wanted more reliable brakes in any weather with my everyday bike. I read it is possible. I was hoping someone could name a company or shop that does it so I can inquire. But GCN did state that carbon rims can be compromised with rim brakes and I was taking heed to that.
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An aluminum frame complicates matters even more as regards welding/brazing. It is best to not try and make your bike something it is not.
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I humbly apologize for the lack of information, I use a Fuji roubaix 2010 model. The frame is aluminum with carbon forks, but the back bottom derailleur fork is alloy. the bike I plan to get is a considerable upgrade for performance. and just wanted more reliable brakes in any weather with my everyday bike. I read it is possible. I was hoping someone could name a company or shop that does it so I can inquire. But GCN did state that carbon rims can be compromised with rim brakes and I was taking heed to that.
You cannot add disc brakes to that bike. Yes you actually could but it would be beyond expensive and you would have to replace the whole rear triangle and probably get the bike heat treated as well as repaint and get new wheels along with the full overhaul you would be doing because you have to strip it and rebuild it. Plus you need the new fork. A Fuji Roubaix is not worth that kind of money even the top end model wouldn't be even a rare race used bike wouldn't be. It may not be a bad bike but if you are already looking at something new, get that something new with what you want and save the Roubaix for other usage. I would personally get a nice titanium frame and then you can ride in the rain and bad weather and not worry about corrosion and if it gets scuffed up you can just wipe it off with something like ScotchBrite pads.
I love GCN but that information isn't super useful out of context. Any rim brakes will wear down and certainly Carbon fiber is not a great surface for braking but with the correct pads and brake usage you will be OK. You just need to monitor your braking surfaces a little better and make sure you are using a quality rim from a known quantity. A lot of good companies that are still producing rim brake compatible carbon rims are making strides to help prevent issues and early wear.
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Your Fuji does not warrant any custom work, even if you could find someone to do it. Frankly I don't know why you would have carbon wheels for it unless you got a five fingered discount. If you are in fact getting a nicer bike you could sell the carbon wheels and stick with aluminum for your "everyday" Fuji. Otherwise, just buy the proper carbon friendly pads and call it good.
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Your Fuji does not warrant any custom work, even if you could find someone to do it. Frankly I don't know why you would have carbon wheels for it unless you got a five fingered discount. If you are in fact getting a nicer bike you could sell the carbon wheels and stick with aluminum for your "everyday" Fuji. Otherwise, just buy the proper carbon friendly pads and call it good.
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Some Lowrider sites sell bolt-on disk caliper mounts. They fit over the axle and then clamp to the frame or fork to control rotation. The bolt-on caliper mounts are primarily for appearance, not function IMHO.
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The one on EBay is a really good one for the back wheel. It works on skewers only; no solid axles. Suitable for performance riding. https://www.ebay.com/i/233859325432?...yABEgJAdPD_BwE
The low cost option is from Walmart.com. Suitable for cruising, but not performance riding.
https://www.walmart.com/ip/Stainless-steel-holder-Bicycle-Disc-Brake-Modification-Bracket-Frame-Adapter-Mounting-Holder/921986518?wmlspartner=wlpa&selectedSellerId=101038322&&adid=22222222227375192592&wl0=&wl1=g&wl2=c&wl 3=471682646347&wl4=aud-430887228898la-976307517278&wl5=9061128&wl6=&wl7=&wl8=&wl9=pla&wl10=266468869&wl11=online&wl12=921986518&veh=sem&gc lid=EAIaIQobChMIyKSFuu2m7gIVUuDACh1WsgO3EAQYBCABEgLTavD_BwE
Now you still need to purchase the following to use disk brakes:
-Wheelset with disk compatible hubs.
-Disk brake set - Includes rotors, bolts and calipers.
Buy the parts and do it yourself.
The low cost option is from Walmart.com. Suitable for cruising, but not performance riding.
https://www.walmart.com/ip/Stainless-steel-holder-Bicycle-Disc-Brake-Modification-Bracket-Frame-Adapter-Mounting-Holder/921986518?wmlspartner=wlpa&selectedSellerId=101038322&&adid=22222222227375192592&wl0=&wl1=g&wl2=c&wl 3=471682646347&wl4=aud-430887228898la-976307517278&wl5=9061128&wl6=&wl7=&wl8=&wl9=pla&wl10=266468869&wl11=online&wl12=921986518&veh=sem&gc lid=EAIaIQobChMIyKSFuu2m7gIVUuDACh1WsgO3EAQYBCABEgLTavD_BwE
Now you still need to purchase the following to use disk brakes:
-Wheelset with disk compatible hubs.
-Disk brake set - Includes rotors, bolts and calipers.
Buy the parts and do it yourself.
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Trust me that is a bad idea waiting to happen. Because it does exist doesn't mean it should exist. Plus I think those were designed for steel frames, I would not want to clamp something to a lightweight aluminum road frame that I am trying to use for braking especially. Plus your frame is 130mm at the rear and disc brakes require 135mm+ hubs.
If you attempted to clamp to carbon you are in for a world of trouble but it is very unlikely that would fit anyway so you are good there.
If you attempted to clamp to carbon you are in for a world of trouble but it is very unlikely that would fit anyway so you are good there.
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Trust me that is a bad idea waiting to happen. Because it does exist doesn't mean it should exist. Plus I think those were designed for steel frames, I would not want to clamp something to a lightweight aluminum road frame that I am trying to use for braking especially. Plus your frame is 130mm at the rear and disc brakes require 135mm+ hubs.
If you attempted to clamp to carbon you are in for a world of trouble but it is very unlikely that would fit anyway so you are good there.
If you attempted to clamp to carbon you are in for a world of trouble but it is very unlikely that would fit anyway so you are good there.
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Rims have to be built up as wheels. Unless of course you are using the term "rim" instead of the term "wheel". Are the rims suitable for rim brakes? Many carbon rims designed for disc brake wheels do not have a brake track and cannot be used for rim brakes
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Not an answer to your question but - is this is going to be a second bike, why not just get wheels with aluminum rims? Aluminum rims, good brakes and good pads (KoolStop) work really well. Yes, you do have to replace the rims periodically but unless you are riding northern salted/sanded or Pacific NW lava dust, that wear takes years. With a quality hand build, you can just do a rim swap when the time comes. (I live in the lava dust country. In my commuting days I couldn't get two winters out of my rims, but I regularly went three rims to a set of spokes. Rim swaps are easy. Tape the new to the old. Swap the spokes over and tighten and true as usual.)
If your current brakes are not as good as you want, you could always go to the workhorse centerpulls like Mafac or Paul. (Paul would be expensive but probably cheaper overall than welding and discs even if you didn't have a triangle spreading issue.) End result would be a simple bike that works well and is easy to service. Cheap to run. Doesn't require much attention and the attention it does want requires no special tools or insight.
If your current brakes are not as good as you want, you could always go to the workhorse centerpulls like Mafac or Paul. (Paul would be expensive but probably cheaper overall than welding and discs even if you didn't have a triangle spreading issue.) End result would be a simple bike that works well and is easy to service. Cheap to run. Doesn't require much attention and the attention it does want requires no special tools or insight.
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I'd be wary about putting a disc brake on a fork that wasn't designed to handle disc brake loads. Replace the fork with one designed to use a disc brake, and it should be fine.
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Depending on your weight and how long your descents are, you could just convert the front brake as that's the one doing most of the work. Learn to shift your weight back so you don't endo (good to have as an ingrained habit anyway).
This is assuming the rim you have can safely be rebuilt with a disc hub.
Still, I agree that it doesn't sound worth it. No one needs to ride on expensive wheels in inclement weather. Use your alloy wheels when the forecast says it'll be wet, use the carbon ones when the forecast is good.
This is assuming the rim you have can safely be rebuilt with a disc hub.
Still, I agree that it doesn't sound worth it. No one needs to ride on expensive wheels in inclement weather. Use your alloy wheels when the forecast says it'll be wet, use the carbon ones when the forecast is good.
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Depending on your weight and how long your descents are, you could just convert the front brake as that's the one doing most of the work. Learn to shift your weight back so you don't endo (good to have as an ingrained habit anyway).
This is assuming the rim you have can safely be rebuilt with a disc hub.
Still, I agree that it doesn't sound worth it. No one needs to ride on expensive wheels in inclement weather. Use your alloy wheels when the forecast says it'll be wet, use the carbon ones when the forecast is good.
This is assuming the rim you have can safely be rebuilt with a disc hub.
Still, I agree that it doesn't sound worth it. No one needs to ride on expensive wheels in inclement weather. Use your alloy wheels when the forecast says it'll be wet, use the carbon ones when the forecast is good.
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thanks so much. I don’t actually plan to ride in inclement weather lol, but I see your point nonetheless. I heard whiskey parts and enve are the best carbon forks out there, as they are purpose driven rather than market driven like venzo. Any other quality brands for carbon forks I can look into?
Ritchey is fine option as well and they have loads of options some in full carbon as well as some alloy steerer options (which after riding full carbon, I am good with that) however I really like the price of Whisky and ENVE has been good to me. Now if someone would let me at the reigns, I would probably just build a Rodeo Spork and just make sure it works with all the accessories I need and maybe have a non-tapered version as well but it pretty well hits a lot of boxes for adventuring.
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You only need to use your rear brake sparingly, so a new disc compatible fork and keep rim brakes on the rear with carbon-specific pads.
As mentioned above, your frame is not designed to handle the forces or the location of the forces provided by a disc brake.
Even if you found someone to weld a disc brake mount on the back of your frame, without heat treatment it will weaken the frame as well as subject it to loads it was never intended to see.
As mentioned above, your frame is not designed to handle the forces or the location of the forces provided by a disc brake.
Even if you found someone to weld a disc brake mount on the back of your frame, without heat treatment it will weaken the frame as well as subject it to loads it was never intended to see.
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You only need to use your rear brake sparingly, so a new disc compatible fork and keep rim brakes on the rear with carbon-specific pads.
As mentioned above, your frame is not designed to handle the forces or the location of the forces provided by a disc brake.
Even if you found someone to weld a disc brake mount on the back of your frame, without heat treatment it will weaken the frame as well as subject it to loads it was never intended to see.
As mentioned above, your frame is not designed to handle the forces or the location of the forces provided by a disc brake.
Even if you found someone to weld a disc brake mount on the back of your frame, without heat treatment it will weaken the frame as well as subject it to loads it was never intended to see.