why is our society so lazy
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why is our society so lazy
why dont more americans bike to work. man nowonder we have the highest death rate of any nation. geez
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I'll start (and I'm a clydesdale on my way out of the club)
* Suburban sprawl makes cycling a difficult method of transportation
* Obesity makes cycling a difficult method of transportation
* Not cycling makes for more obesity
* Suburban sprawl makes cycling a difficult method of transportation
* Obesity makes cycling a difficult method of transportation
* Not cycling makes for more obesity
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Originally Posted by mrbike27
man nowonder we have the highest death rate of any nation. geez
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I agree that we're probably the laziest nation, but there's no way our death rate (I assume you mean low average age at death) is #1. Maybe among developed nations.
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NOT lazy, just dedicated to careers too much.I believe that far to many exhaust themselves indulging their children too. Instead of remaining happy healthy and sane,the dollar value of things is to high of a priority. Parents for example,ought to stay alive and well for their sake and the family,$$ and it's pursuit should be secondary. Besides us "lazy" Americans work more hours per year than Europe OR Japan.I can not accept your death rate statement and reserve comment. I DO AGREE with more riding for all !
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Originally Posted by mrbike27
why dont more americans bike to work. man nowonder we have the highest death rate of any nation. geez
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Originally Posted by specq
Well, we are tied for #1 at 100%.
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The simple truth is that people want to be lazy and don't want to ride a bicycle to work.
Doing less work is an instillment in the human mind and goes back thousands of years. Ever hear of the term "fat and happy"? When the Roman soldiers had finally completed their obligation to the military their idea of life-after-military was to sit and relax and become fat and happy, now that they were out of the military, they did not want to work anymore.
Advancements in society have made this easier now with communications and transportation.
The fact remains, more people don't bike to work because they simply don't want to. People can blame it on urban sprawl, weather, or whatever excuse they want. But not everyone in the suburbs lives 30 miles from work. Even the ones who live 3 miles from work and have a very upkept seperated bike path will still drive, simply because they want to.
Doing less work is an instillment in the human mind and goes back thousands of years. Ever hear of the term "fat and happy"? When the Roman soldiers had finally completed their obligation to the military their idea of life-after-military was to sit and relax and become fat and happy, now that they were out of the military, they did not want to work anymore.
Advancements in society have made this easier now with communications and transportation.
The fact remains, more people don't bike to work because they simply don't want to. People can blame it on urban sprawl, weather, or whatever excuse they want. But not everyone in the suburbs lives 30 miles from work. Even the ones who live 3 miles from work and have a very upkept seperated bike path will still drive, simply because they want to.
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Originally Posted by unkchunk
... But somehow your instinct is to immediately blame the little people and fellate the rich and powerfull. geez
EDIT: After re-reading the OP, I don't see any blame being placed on anyone at all. It seems like (s)he is drawing a poorly worded comparison between low rates of activity and a high mortality rate.
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Originally Posted by huge
You're just putting words into his\her mouth. This statement probably highlights your class-based biases, not the OP's.
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Originally Posted by huge
While I agree with the rest of your post, you are making a giant leap in logic with this statement. I think the OP was talking about American society in general. You're just putting words into his\her mouth. This statement probably highlights your class-based biases, not the OP's.
EDIT: After re-reading the OP, I don't see any blame being placed on anyone at all. It seems like (s)he is drawing a poorly worded comparison between low rates of activity and a high mortality rate.
EDIT: After re-reading the OP, I don't see any blame being placed on anyone at all. It seems like (s)he is drawing a poorly worded comparison between low rates of activity and a high mortality rate.
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Originally Posted by ax0n
I'll start (and I'm a clydesdale on my way out of the club)
* Suburban sprawl makes cycling a difficult method of transportation
* Obesity makes cycling a difficult method of transportation
* Not cycling makes for more obesity
* Suburban sprawl makes cycling a difficult method of transportation
* Obesity makes cycling a difficult method of transportation
* Not cycling makes for more obesity
Tying lack of commuting by bike to obesity isn't a fair claim. There are many people who commute by car or public transportation who are also physically fit, they just choose other means to achieve and maintain their fitness...running, walking, gyms, sports, etc.
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Not really lazy as an entire society. I know many persons that would qualify as work-a-holics. That is not a sign of laziness but perhaps misplaced priorities in the rat race to acquire and consume. That and as a whole we consume way too much fatty foods and do not exercise enough to work it off. (duh)
Cycling to work is not for everyone and is not a miracle cure. However, it sure is fun if you are into it.
Cycling to work is not for everyone and is not a miracle cure. However, it sure is fun if you are into it.
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Like, so lazy they don't use capital letters?
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Originally Posted by ax0n
I'll start (and I'm a clydesdale on my way out of the club)
* Suburban sprawl makes cycling a difficult method of transportation
* Obesity makes cycling a difficult method of transportation
* Not cycling makes for more obesity
* Suburban sprawl makes cycling a difficult method of transportation
* Obesity makes cycling a difficult method of transportation
* Not cycling makes for more obesity
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Originally Posted by old and new
NOT lazy, just dedicated to careers too much.I believe that far to many exhaust themselves indulging their children too. Instead of remaining happy healthy and sane,the dollar value of things is to high of a priority. Parents for example,ought to stay alive and well for their sake and the family,$$ and it's pursuit should be secondary. Besides us "lazy" Americans work more hours per year than Europe OR Japan.I can not accept your death rate statement and reserve comment. I DO AGREE with more riding for all !
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Most of societies ills are a combination of pizza rolls, spiderman 2, and beer. At least most of my ills.
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Unless you live less than 5 miles away from where you work, cycling to work isnt practical.
I work in factory 8-10 hours a day and it is 22 miles away from my home. Are you going to bust your butt all day working in a factory, sweating your you know what off and then pedal your butt 22 miles home? Not me.
Not all of us have cushy office jobs...
I work in factory 8-10 hours a day and it is 22 miles away from my home. Are you going to bust your butt all day working in a factory, sweating your you know what off and then pedal your butt 22 miles home? Not me.
Not all of us have cushy office jobs...
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Originally Posted by Bakemono
Unless you live less than 5 miles away from where you work, cycling to work isnt practical.
I work in factory 8-10 hours a day and it is 22 miles away from my home. Are you going to bust your butt all day working in a factory, sweating your you know what off and then pedal your butt 22 miles home? Not me.
Not all of us have cushy office jobs...
I work in factory 8-10 hours a day and it is 22 miles away from my home. Are you going to bust your butt all day working in a factory, sweating your you know what off and then pedal your butt 22 miles home? Not me.
Not all of us have cushy office jobs...
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Originally Posted by Bakemono
Unless you live less than 5 miles away from where you work, cycling to work isnt practical.
I work in factory 8-10 hours a day and it is 22 miles away from my home. Are you going to bust your butt all day working in a factory, sweating your you know what off and then pedal your butt 22 miles home? Not me.
Not all of us have cushy office jobs...
I work in factory 8-10 hours a day and it is 22 miles away from my home. Are you going to bust your butt all day working in a factory, sweating your you know what off and then pedal your butt 22 miles home? Not me.
Not all of us have cushy office jobs...
But I have a strong constitution and don't expect others to do as I do.
I'm just saying it *can* be done.
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Americans don't bike more in large part because our cities just aren't built for it. If we lived in a physically small country with lots of overcrowding, significantly more people would live closer to where they work, shop, and go to school. Urban sprawl would not be as likely or impossible. Houston is an excellent example. Lots of land means more spread every month, and all the ills that go with it. Riding a bike 20-30 miles one way to work on the freeway isn't real feasable. And Houston is WAY behind on mass transportation efforts like rail, bike rack on busses, etc. People can't and don't want to ride a bike for practicle transportation.
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Originally Posted by zonatandem
Been commuting to work by bike since the mid-1950s. Where were you?