CB HI

His response made me smile. Why would you say his mind is fried when he came up with a quick one liner that got you to immediately go away?

Gresp15C

I'm pretty sure when someone says "nice bike" to me, they're lying to be kind, or to be ironic.

njkayaker

You didn't fair well in that thread.

CB HI

Static friction is friction between two or more solid objects that are not moving relative to each other. For example, static friction can prevent an object from sliding down a sloped surface.

Is the wheel not moving relative to the brake pad? Is the tire not moving relative to the road?

Maybe you only lean your bicycle against a wall and that is how you obtain your static friction rather than ever riding your bicycle and using kinetic friction.

B. Carfree

It must be nice to live where there are so many people on bikes that one has the inclination to discourage someone who isn't riding the "one right way". Where I live, we've seen a massive loss of cyclists this decade and are on track to get to zero by sometime in 2024. Unlike motorists, I rather like seeing people out riding, so I happily accept their different ways of doing it. Seriously, how likely am I to get seriously hurt by someone in a bike crash? I'm more likely to hurt myself in the garden.

The old guy on the e-bike (complete with oxygen tank and tubes to his nose? Check. The youngster on a fixie whose only brakes are his legs and the chain? Check. My neighbor with her e-cargo bike and two kids? Check. The homeless guy with half the spokes missing from his rear wheel? Check. Red-light runner? Cool by me. Old woman on a fixie? Hey, that's my wife.

KraneXL

On public thoroughfares, brakes are required by law. If they dispute that, just have one of your cops friends remind them.

CB HI

The only cyclist that I have issues with are the ones who criticize the cycling of others and homeless guys (and other thieves) that stole the bicycle they are riding.

Rollfast

Zombies are always a thing though.

Maelochs

I also have a problem with the cyclists who kill pedestrians ... I know as a "Serious Cycliste" I should scorn non-cyclist life forms ... sorry, i guess I will get shunned now.

TimothyH

If you can catch me when I'm riding fixed then you have earned the right to lecture me about how to build and ride it.

https://www.pedalroom.com/bike/2018-...z-custom-37179

I'd prefer a conversation over coffee though.


-Tim-

Dave Mayer

When first entering this thread, I assumed it was a zombie from say 5-10 years ago. Because the fixed gear thing is totally dead.

in any case, your best protection from reckless brakeless riders is the legal system and lawyers. If you get injured, go in front of a judge and see how sympathetic he or she will be to the merits of brakeless bicycles.

Lawyers: employ rapacious contingency fee lawyers who who will wage a multi-year legal war of attrition until the defendant and all of his relatives are bankrupt. If the parents of the fixed gear rider have pensions and own a home, all the better.

TimothyH

By who's reckoning?


-Tim-

KraneXL

Unlike motorists, what happens to a pedestrian happens to a cyclist. You might want to think again about that one.

Maelochs

So .... if a cyclist hits and kills a pedestrian he hits and kills himself? What?

What you have posted is ... a bit unclear, shall we say? Please restate it in different terms.

KraneXL

Its not that complex:

Is there a completely safe way for a cyclist to run into an object without incurring injury to himself? You make it appear as if the cyclist wouldn't do everything possible to avoid an a collision.

AlmostTrick

So you're even now. Good job!

Maelochs

Really, sir, you should try harder to understand before you try so hard to refute.

There have been several incidents in great Britain where a brakeless fixie rider killed a pedestrian.

The cyclist did Not do everything possible to avoid the accident ... because by running an illegal, brakeless bike the rider made the accident vastly more likely.

Brakeless fixies CANNNOT stop as quickly as a bike with brakes. If you can Disprove that, go ahead.

So ... a person riding a brakeless fixie should only ride A.) very slowly, so as to be able to avoid accidents in situations where obstructions might appear suddenly or B.) on a track.

Since the fixie riders did NOT ride at a low enough speed as to avoid the pedestrians, the fixie riders did Not do everything possible to avoid accidents.

None of that has anything to do with the earlier post about " The cases in England prove that you are wrong, because the pedestrians died and the cyclists were uninjured.

Sorry to be using facts and logic. I will try to restrain myself in future.

KraneXL

And may I suggest you try harder to be more clear.A fact, perhaps, but far from logic.

CB HI

There are box store bikes that challenge that point of view.

And by such logic, only top end disk brakes should be allowed on every bicycle.

Fixed gear bikes are legal in some locations. Some laws only specify the distance a bicycle must be able to stop within from a certain speed and do not specify the method for stopping.

CliffordK

You could ask them if they've ever broken a chain.

KraneXL

In the event of an accident, I'm pretty sure a judge wouldn't consider your "device" a viable alternative to standard bike brakes no matter how functional you think they might be.

Gresp15C

In my locale, I've seen more regular bikes with malfunctioning brakes than fixies with no brakes. Just last week, I saw a schoolkid do a Fred Flintstone stop at a busy intersection.

JoeyBike

This is how the majority of cyclists operate in New Orleans. No brakes. Thankfully, they don't ride very fast knowing they will be dragging their feet to stop. The issue is most of the bikes around the city are ancient Wal-Mart bikes that have been stolen and re-stolen multiple times by people with little money to repair them. The wheels are so out of true that the brakes must be disconnected for the wheels to turn. Coaster brake bikes being the exceptions of course. But even then, neglect can kill coaster brakes as well.

CB HI

And I have had a brake cable break, even though I do regular checks.

CB HI

I have heard about some tickets getting dismissed by judges for no brakes and then other judges only reducing the fine. So you should not be so sure; there are judges that do follow the law when a fixie can show they meet the stopping distance.

And since bicycles take more distance to stop than cars with proper brakes, do you believe cyclist should always be held responsible because they cannot stop as quickly?