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Old 10-13-19, 07:18 PM
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The Future of Road Cycling

Today I took a break from riding and, together with my son, we visited the Petersen Auto Museum in Los Angeles. Among the expensive, exotic, and just plain weird cars in display, I came across these two bikes.

Is this the future?




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I don’t know if it will be the future, but I do hope it is still called fUCI.
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That thing with the two wheels touching is a direct-drive Penny Farthing-style contraption? With disc brakes? How 'bout a Lefty Fork too while we're at it, why not?
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Somebody hates the UCI
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Originally Posted by Lemond1985
That thing with the two wheels touching is a direct-drive Penny Farthing-style contraption? With disc brakes? How 'bout a Lefty Fork too while we're at it, why not?
The creator of that bike had some other wild “contraptions” on display.

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I'd be nervous to ride the black one, but I dig them both -- thanks for posting.
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The first one is a moped, and the second one has a totally non-ergonomic pedalling position, so no.
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Originally Posted by CarloM
I don’t know if it will be the future, but I do hope it is still called fUCI.
Yes. Pronounced "eff UCI."
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Osfa

Looks like both bikes are OSFA ( one size fits all).

Good luck pedalling the city bike with any efficiency if you're taller than 4'-2".
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Notice in "Moto Undone"...

How the legs have been cut off...by that "seat".
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If that's the best that museum can do then I think I won't even consider going to look at anything else! *yuck* I have better looking bicycles (and probably automobiles by those 'bicycle' examples).
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I could see riding the aero road bike (were I flexible enough!), but the urban assault vehicle? YGTBSM. Kinda reminds me of all the concept cars that have come and gone.. cool, but mostly art.
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Nope...this is just the mental ************ that happens when graphic designers who never ride bikes design bikes.
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It's something interesting to think about. If you go back 50-70 years, cars look very different and have much more tech. But they still run on 4 wheels, have same seating set up and primarily run on gasoline engines - with some electric coming on board. Bikes very similar comparison.

The next 50 years will be interesting. I bet cars change much more than bikes - self driving, all electric, serious design changes especially if self drive...….

I think one will always have the option to pedal a bike vs being 100% electric. Maybe a new design for bikes comes out that doesn't rely on the double triangle - like the aero bike above.
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Originally Posted by RShantz
It's something interesting to think about. If you go back 50-70 years, cars look very different and have much more tech. But they still run on 4 wheels, have same seating set up and primarily run on gasoline engines - with some electric coming on board. Bikes very similar comparison.

The next 50 years will be interesting. I bet cars change much more than bikes - self driving, all electric, serious design changes especially if self drive...….

I think one will always have the option to pedal a bike vs being 100% electric. Maybe a new design for bikes comes out that doesn't rely on the double triangle - like the aero bike above.
Won't be new. It has been done before. Beam bikes like Softride, Kestrel's KM40 for another. They didn't stick because they lowered power-transfer efficientcy and/or made things more complicated in fabrication or were just plain not UCI-race legal.
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Originally Posted by Boxkite
If that's the best that museum can do then I think I won't even consider going to look at anything else! *yuck* I have better looking bicycles (and probably automobiles by those 'bicycle' examples).





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Originally Posted by Boxkite
If that's the best that museum can do then I think I won't even consider going to look at anything else! *yuck* I have better looking bicycles (and probably automobiles by those 'bicycle' examples).






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Originally Posted by Boxkite
If that's the best that museum can do then I think I won't even consider going to look at anything else! *yuck* I have better looking bicycles (and probably automobiles by those 'bicycle' examples).
You’d be missing a great collection of cars. Take the extended tour to The Vault and you will see even more examples of automotive history.
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Originally Posted by Marcus_Ti
Nope...this is just the mental ************ that happens when graphic designers who never ride bikes design bikes.
To some degree yes, you are right. The designer of the fUCI bike works for Specialized.

Imagining what the future will look like is never easy; translating a vision to an actual model, however, is always fun to watch.
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Originally Posted by eja_ bottecchia
To some degree yes, you are right. The designer of the fUCI bike works for Specialized.

Imagining what the future will look like is never easy; translating a vision to an actual model, however, is always fun to watch.
The fUCI is especially funny that the designer worked for specialized....the bike isn't even rideable in terms of rider fit, nor is it rideable from a simple tire clearance perspective, the wheels can't be trued, no practical points for hydration etc. It is just a bike-shaped-object that "looks cool" to people who don't ride bikes.

The KM40 from Kestrel OTOH was rideable and made of materials of the future (carbon fiber) 30 years ago....and actually was fast.
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Geez what a bunch of close minded fuddy duddy’s. They are concepts and more art than function. On purpose. There is a 100 plus year history in the auto business of concept cars with certain styling cues trickling down to production.
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Geez what a bunch of close minded fuddy duddy’s. They are concepts and more art than function. On purpose. There is a 100 plus year history in the auto business of concept cars with certain styling cues trickling down to production.
Exactly!
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Originally Posted by eja_ bottecchia


I really like this one.
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Dont dismiss the 2nd bike. The 2nd black bike will be very stiff

Whats there to flex?

No BB
No down tube etc.
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Originally Posted by Marcus_Ti
Nope...this is just the mental ************ that happens when graphic designers who never ride bikes design bikes.
I agree so far as the black one (more art than bike), but not the white one -- at least not completely. Sure, some artistic embellishments there, but looks like it would be functional for a flexible (really flexible) rider. Probably a fun exercise for the designer who has had to live by the UCI rules.
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