Avocet cartridge bearing hub axle and what freewheel is this?
04-06-21, 08:31 AM
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Avocet cartridge bearing hub axle and what freewheel is this?
I fished this busted up wheel out of the scrap yard pile. Its an Avocet and the axle is sheared off. Any chance of finding a replacement?
The 6 speed freewheel spins nicely but some of the cogs have broken teeth. Cleaning a bit of dirt off its a suntour. Any idea what kind?
Thanks
The 6 speed freewheel spins nicely but some of the cogs have broken teeth. Cleaning a bit of dirt off its a suntour. Any idea what kind?
Thanks
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Sorry, don't know.
Had to comment because it's eerie sometimes, I was just thinking about putting the new bearings I ordered into a set of Avocet hubs today. The though popped into my head literally 15m before I opened my computer and saw your thread.
Had to comment because it's eerie sometimes, I was just thinking about putting the new bearings I ordered into a set of Avocet hubs today. The though popped into my head literally 15m before I opened my computer and saw your thread.
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It looks like a SunTour New Winner to me. That is just off the top of my head. No research, or checking.
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sure looks like my SunTour New Winner freewheels...
seems like the hub might use a conventional axle. Wouldn't hurt to pull it out and look at it in detail.
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seems like the hub might use a conventional axle. Wouldn't hurt to pull it out and look at it in detail.
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I think so: axle might be either a Campy clone threading but this might be an Asian-sourced hub (rather that the typical Avocet=Ofmega deal) and if anything the cones are the bits to salvage since they mate with the sealed cart bearings ID.
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I was thinking it looked to me more like a rebranded Ofmega, which would be consistent with some other Avocet stuff, like their cranks.
Specialized sealed bearing hubs that I am familiar with often also have dust caps, unlike this and the Ofmegas, which do not.
If they are rebranded Ofmegas, the quick releases may also be a cool, old school lightweight design with some alloy parts and an open end on the lever cap thingy, and might be worth digging up if you still have access to that scrap pile. That would also probably confirm the ID.
Also, if they are rebranded Ofmegas, they should take a normal threaded 10mm hollow axle in the appropriate length, and cones/spacers should screw right on. Come to think of it, I don't think those Ofmega hubs even had "cones" between the axle and the bearings, at least on the rear. That is, the bearing hole was 10mm and the axle was 10mm. If I had to guess, I'd say it's 10x1 thread, like most hubs that aren't Campagnolo. I could be completely wrong though, but they look a heck of a lot like Ofmegas. Those were hi-zoot components back in the day. Looks like it got run over by a panzer though.
Edit: looks like a dead ringer for these rebranded Ofmega hubs (Velobase). Note the funky QR.
Specialized sealed bearing hubs that I am familiar with often also have dust caps, unlike this and the Ofmegas, which do not.
If they are rebranded Ofmegas, the quick releases may also be a cool, old school lightweight design with some alloy parts and an open end on the lever cap thingy, and might be worth digging up if you still have access to that scrap pile. That would also probably confirm the ID.
Also, if they are rebranded Ofmegas, they should take a normal threaded 10mm hollow axle in the appropriate length, and cones/spacers should screw right on. Come to think of it, I don't think those Ofmega hubs even had "cones" between the axle and the bearings, at least on the rear. That is, the bearing hole was 10mm and the axle was 10mm. If I had to guess, I'd say it's 10x1 thread, like most hubs that aren't Campagnolo. I could be completely wrong though, but they look a heck of a lot like Ofmegas. Those were hi-zoot components back in the day. Looks like it got run over by a panzer though.
Edit: looks like a dead ringer for these rebranded Ofmega hubs (Velobase). Note the funky QR.
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Try looking at Ofmega CX sealed bearing hubs. I think they might be identical to those Avocets.
IIRC, there were two versions of the CX issued by Ofmega. The earlier one having oil ports and the later one having none.
IIRC, there were two versions of the CX issued by Ofmega. The earlier one having oil ports and the later one having none.
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I fished this busted up wheel out of the scrap yard pile. Its an Avocet and the axle is sheared off. Any chance of finding a replacement?
The 6 speed freewheel spins nicely but some of the cogs have broken teeth. Cleaning a bit of dirt off its a suntour. Any idea what kind?
Thanks
The 6 speed freewheel spins nicely but some of the cogs have broken teeth. Cleaning a bit of dirt off its a suntour. Any idea what kind?
Thanks
Yellow Jersey may still have replacement cogs: Suntour Freewheels at Yellow Jersey You have to call them to find out if they have what you need.
Removing the freewheel from the hub will be tough. Normally you'd retain the freewheel tool with the QR skewer to loosen it the first thread or so but with part of the axle missing that may not work. Good luck.
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Thanks for the info.
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Another coincidence.
I got a hub that had a really nice Regina freewheel but axle was snapped and the axle was offset, like a compound fracture. I cut off the spokes and kept the tubular rim (Colnago) and then cut off the NDS side of the hub and was left with the D side of the hub with the freewheel and an inch or so of axle so no using a QR to keep the tool from slipping.
Mounted the remainder of the Dside of the hub with freewheel still attached in a vise, crushing down hard on the broken hub. This kept hub from moving. Attached the VAR 186 tool onto the freewheel and applied a wrench to that. No movement (later found PO didn't grease freewheels before mounting). Placed a large C-clamp so it attached with one side of clamp to top of VAR tool and other side of clamp on bottom of vise and tightened clamp down. applied wrench and off came freewheel.
I got a hub that had a really nice Regina freewheel but axle was snapped and the axle was offset, like a compound fracture. I cut off the spokes and kept the tubular rim (Colnago) and then cut off the NDS side of the hub and was left with the D side of the hub with the freewheel and an inch or so of axle so no using a QR to keep the tool from slipping.
Mounted the remainder of the Dside of the hub with freewheel still attached in a vise, crushing down hard on the broken hub. This kept hub from moving. Attached the VAR 186 tool onto the freewheel and applied a wrench to that. No movement (later found PO didn't grease freewheels before mounting). Placed a large C-clamp so it attached with one side of clamp to top of VAR tool and other side of clamp on bottom of vise and tightened clamp down. applied wrench and off came freewheel.
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Yes, New Winner. There is genuine cone and locknut on the bearings, making it possible to adjust the bearings easily and precisely. I used to overhaul and adjust mine just for fun.
Yellow Jersey may still have replacement cogs: Suntour Freewheels at Yellow Jersey You have to call them to find out if they have what you need.
Removing the freewheel from the hub will be tough. Normally you'd retain the freewheel tool with the QR skewer to loosen it the first thread or so but with part of the axle missing that may not work. Good luck.
Yellow Jersey may still have replacement cogs: Suntour Freewheels at Yellow Jersey You have to call them to find out if they have what you need.
Removing the freewheel from the hub will be tough. Normally you'd retain the freewheel tool with the QR skewer to loosen it the first thread or so but with part of the axle missing that may not work. Good luck.
a repair? Roll of the dice.
