Super interesting find. Cellini with Campy Golden-black group
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Super interesting find. Cellini with Campy Golden-black group
So this popped on craigslist today and I was at the seller's doorstep in 2-hours.
I don't know much about it, but I'll post regarding that in the Appraisals forums (not opposed to learning from here either).
The frame is Cellini, probably a early 80s frame as the Campy bits are stamped with "82".
What I want to know is how to restore the old campy bits without damaging the black and gold anondizing. There seems to be some rust or corrosion on various bits (like mounting hardware), so is the anondizing/paint just gonna have to go? Would it be worth it to restore those bits or just pull 'em off and either store 'em as-is or sell them as a group. The bike is mighty sexy as is it is, but it doesn't fit me or my girlfriend. I bought it as a restore and pass-on project.
Sorry if I'm confusing my terms here. I know anondizing is specifically for the aluminum bits and I'm sure that the only bits that are rusting are the steel bits (so they are probably chromed or painted gold). I would like to clean and get everything shining so I want to make sure to do this without harming any of the finishes as they all seem rather fragile.
Some links I could dig up on Campy Golden-black stuff:
https://cinellionly.blogspot.com/2010...k-cinelli.html
(yes the weird coincidence of "Cinelli" and Cellini is not lost on me)
https://www.bikeforums.net/showthread...-love-Gooooold
Scroll down til you see the Cellini ad.
Pictures from the seller's album:
I have a inkling I should just leave this one alone and not risk ruining it.
I don't know much about it, but I'll post regarding that in the Appraisals forums (not opposed to learning from here either).
The frame is Cellini, probably a early 80s frame as the Campy bits are stamped with "82".
What I want to know is how to restore the old campy bits without damaging the black and gold anondizing. There seems to be some rust or corrosion on various bits (like mounting hardware), so is the anondizing/paint just gonna have to go? Would it be worth it to restore those bits or just pull 'em off and either store 'em as-is or sell them as a group. The bike is mighty sexy as is it is, but it doesn't fit me or my girlfriend. I bought it as a restore and pass-on project.
Sorry if I'm confusing my terms here. I know anondizing is specifically for the aluminum bits and I'm sure that the only bits that are rusting are the steel bits (so they are probably chromed or painted gold). I would like to clean and get everything shining so I want to make sure to do this without harming any of the finishes as they all seem rather fragile.
Some links I could dig up on Campy Golden-black stuff:
https://cinellionly.blogspot.com/2010...k-cinelli.html
(yes the weird coincidence of "Cinelli" and Cellini is not lost on me)
https://www.bikeforums.net/showthread...-love-Gooooold
Scroll down til you see the Cellini ad.
Pictures from the seller's album:
I have a inkling I should just leave this one alone and not risk ruining it.
Last edited by toosahn; 10-08-11 at 10:25 PM.
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So 80's its come full circle to being trendy again, eh?
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Holy crap that is like a Black Lightning only 1 million times more awesome! Amazing bike!
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I'll have up my own pictures soon of various areas of concern. But it's in overall pretty good shape.
One weird thing is that the decals are actually stickers (not under any clear coat). And there seems to be chrome under the matte finish. So I'm not sure if the bike was repainted matte black or not and then stickered.
One weird thing is that the decals are actually stickers (not under any clear coat). And there seems to be chrome under the matte finish. So I'm not sure if the bike was repainted matte black or not and then stickered.
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Hole moley, now THAT is a rare bike. I really think you should keep it but I would also be REALLY interested to see how high a 7 day ebay auction might go....with worldwide shipping, of course.
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So I'm pretty sure it wasn't a repaint reading this:
>>Beech does seem to be the wood of choice for rim making. However, the
>>Cellini (not Cinelli) from the early/mid '80s, did come with proprietary
>>mahogany rims. Cellini's were fully built show bikes, out of Columbus KL
>>tubing. One model was an entirely gold plated frame, sporting a panto'd SR
>>gruppo, and a specially laced VIP set. The other model was a flat black
>>painted frame with gold lugs, sporting a PAINTED flat black SR panto'd
gruppo
>>w/gold plated hardware, and the same VIP set. The black one was more
>>expensive, but the black paint on the components was a bad idea (almost all
>>have flaking paint). Personally, I think the all gold model was much more
>>striking anyway. Both models came with the mahogany built wheels.
>>
>>Marc Boral
As for the mahogany wheels, that's the one bummer in all of this. The seller said the mahogany wheels were there but then when he went the next day they were gone!
I'll try to track 'em down.
>>Beech does seem to be the wood of choice for rim making. However, the
>>Cellini (not Cinelli) from the early/mid '80s, did come with proprietary
>>mahogany rims. Cellini's were fully built show bikes, out of Columbus KL
>>tubing. One model was an entirely gold plated frame, sporting a panto'd SR
>>gruppo, and a specially laced VIP set. The other model was a flat black
>>painted frame with gold lugs, sporting a PAINTED flat black SR panto'd
gruppo
>>w/gold plated hardware, and the same VIP set. The black one was more
>>expensive, but the black paint on the components was a bad idea (almost all
>>have flaking paint). Personally, I think the all gold model was much more
>>striking anyway. Both models came with the mahogany built wheels.
>>
>>Marc Boral
As for the mahogany wheels, that's the one bummer in all of this. The seller said the mahogany wheels were there but then when he went the next day they were gone!
I'll try to track 'em down.
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They ride like a dream, BTW. Lucky find. That gold, is real gold plating, BTW; not paint. I know where there's still a new Cellini in my size on a bike shop's floor. Supposedly that shop had imported them in the '80's, and I seem to remember them saying something like "they were display bikes at the LA Olympic games". They are quite rare, and yes, very light. Mine's looking a little scruffy these days, but it's still a pretty bike.
Forgot to mention, some of them have internal top-tube cable routing.
Forgot to mention, some of them have internal top-tube cable routing.
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UH WOW! that is just beautiful!
I would not worry about replacing everything until I lovingly took each component apart and cleaned it with Holy Water straight from the Vatican and them rubbed each part with EEVOO. OK OK I am kidding about the Holy Water and EVOO.
lots of older parts get rusty on the steel hardware because the tools chip the chrome. unless it looks really gross after a good cleaning I would not fret too much about it.
I would not worry about replacing everything until I lovingly took each component apart and cleaned it with Holy Water straight from the Vatican and them rubbed each part with EEVOO. OK OK I am kidding about the Holy Water and EVOO.
lots of older parts get rusty on the steel hardware because the tools chip the chrome. unless it looks really gross after a good cleaning I would not fret too much about it.
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Great find.
Clean it very well.
Then leave it be.
Ride it only on bright sunny sundays.
Oh yea, BG's idea of holly water is not a bad one!
Clean it very well.
Then leave it be.
Ride it only on bright sunny sundays.
Oh yea, BG's idea of holly water is not a bad one!
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What shop is that? The last time I saw something like that was at Ernie's back in the 80's. I am not sure if it was a Cellini?
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No, we didn't have too many of that stuff in the 80s. Not like that, and this thing was not a trend. It was for the rich and famous. I remember something hanging on the wall in a shop called Ernie's in Brentwood. That's right next to Bel Air or Beverly Hills. A gold plated Ferrari if you will.
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1-Go to Walmart, get the Rustoleum Rust Remover.
2-Get a toothbrush and some q-tips
3-Ajax dishwashing liquid
4-A bucket
5-A hose attached to a spigot.
You do not want to attack this full-on. Isolate the parts piece by piece and treat them, piece by piece.
The rust remover generally does not harm paint or anodize, but that's no reason to leave it sitting on painted parts.
The rust remover should not be used on aluminum parts, in general, because it can turn them black, and you'd have to re-polish them.
Try to isolate the parts that have rust. Since those will generally not be aluminum, you can try the rust remover on them, apply with a toothbrush, and rinse within a minute. Sure, it works better if left on a few minutes, but why chance it? Several applications in localized areas, thoroughly rinsed, will do the trick. Be sure to dry very thoroughly and use q-tips to not only apply to small areas, but to get the water off after you rinse. Drying the bits is just as important as cleaning the rust off. If you don't, it will just rust again.
2-Get a toothbrush and some q-tips
3-Ajax dishwashing liquid
4-A bucket
5-A hose attached to a spigot.
You do not want to attack this full-on. Isolate the parts piece by piece and treat them, piece by piece.
The rust remover generally does not harm paint or anodize, but that's no reason to leave it sitting on painted parts.
The rust remover should not be used on aluminum parts, in general, because it can turn them black, and you'd have to re-polish them.
Try to isolate the parts that have rust. Since those will generally not be aluminum, you can try the rust remover on them, apply with a toothbrush, and rinse within a minute. Sure, it works better if left on a few minutes, but why chance it? Several applications in localized areas, thoroughly rinsed, will do the trick. Be sure to dry very thoroughly and use q-tips to not only apply to small areas, but to get the water off after you rinse. Drying the bits is just as important as cleaning the rust off. If you don't, it will just rust again.
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No, we didn't have too many of that stuff in the 80s. Not like that, and this thing was not a trend. It was for the rich and famous. I remember something hanging on the wall in a shop called Ernie's in Brentwood. That's right next to Bel Air or Beverly Hills. A gold plated Ferrari if you will.
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I have been out of this game for a long time and have no interest in restoring bike. My old Casati and the one I ride, a Ridley, is enough for me to have around the house. I will not fight you for it, trust me on this. I was interested in some of the old pro shop I use to frequent, and it would be interested to see if they are still there? I road for Erinie/LaGrange for one season. I hated it and went back to Montrose. What shop did you get this thing from? Is it an old shop from way back or was it one of the newer ones like Helen's
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thats one of the nicest looking classics ive seen in a long time. Very pleasing/refreshing to see something without plain jane polished components for a change!
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I'm going to put this on ebay next week. 7-day with $2k reserve as per recommendation. I'll post the link when I do!
Thanks.
Thanks.
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