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Old 07-06-11, 10:02 AM
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Bob, the market for 30s Paramount replica parts has to be awfully small, so I don't know if V-O would be interested. OTOH, you never know until you've tried, so I'll e-mail Chris about the possibility.
I was thinking more along the line of generic 1920s-1950s track bike parts, stems, pedals, bars, etc. The Schwinn catalog pages would be a great place to start. I would guess that there are enough fixie/SS enthusiasts who would like to make their traditional steel frame rides look even more vintage, even if the parts are brand new.
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Yeah, that about sums it up for me, too. What do I want with a track bike? I don't. But show me a 1938 Paramount track bike frame, and I just want it want it want it. Not a good sign.
You're flirting with the dark side, 'ya know.

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I was thinking more along the line of generic 1920s-1950s track bike parts, stems, pedals, bars, etc. The Schwinn catalog pages would be a great place to start. I would guess that there are enough fixie/SS enthusiasts who would like to make their traditional steel frame rides look even more vintage, even if the parts are brand new.
Ahhh. That would probably make sense for V-O, Bob. It's this adjustable stem that really gets my juices flowing:

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Stan, correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't that chrome frame the 1938 Paramount prototype, SN #1(c)?

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I was thinking more along the line of generic 1920s-1950s track bike parts, stems, pedals, bars, etc. The Schwinn catalog pages would be a great place to start. I would guess that there are enough fixie/SS enthusiasts who would like to make their traditional steel frame rides look even more vintage, even if the parts are brand new.
I dare say a reasonable facsimile of a Dural front hub could be had from a Schwinn ballooner (though steel, not aluminum), and that Paramount crankarm is rather similar to some of the steel Stronglight and Nevar doubles made in the 1960's and 1970's.

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Stan, correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't that chrome frame the 1938 Paramount prototype, SN #1(c)?
Indeed it is, Kurt. It belongs to Tam Phan, a.k.a. Terminaut.

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I can not read the serial number in the pic,what is it please?
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I need a left Paramount crank arm if anyone has one lying around...


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I dare say a reasonable facsimile of a Dural front hub could be had from a Schwinn ballooner-Kurt
I think Schwinn copied Airlite hubs. My other Paramount track, with a Cinelli stayer stem:
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I can not read the serial number in the pic,what is it please?
I can't read it either, but I think it's A?38. When I get the frame and strip the paint from the BB shell, I'll probably be able to decipher it better.
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The serial number is A853. The other number on the BB shell is 1235. Weight of the 23" frame alone (no fork, no headset) is 4.87 pounds. The fork is drilled.

Underneath that sloppy paint job, it's in pretty amazing shape. There are no dents and only very minor surface rust.



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Thanks for the serial number.That number suggests that it is later than a 1938 as I am sure you are aware.
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Originally Posted by schwinnderella
Thanks for the serial number.That number suggests that it is later than a 1938 as I am sure you are aware.
Yes; Tam Phan's registry suggests 1939+...
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Stan,

Do you notice the other number emerging in the paint? I can see what appears to be;

"G 2 ? ? H"

This stamping is between the other sets of stampings.
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Bob, I didn't notice it until you pointed it out. Thanks. I'll see if I can clean that part of the BB shell better and maybe bring out the characters. It's not stamped as deeply into the shell as the serial number or the 1235. There's also a character in front of the 1235 that looks like a D followed by a centered o. I don't have a clue whether there's any real significance to that.

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Yes; Tam Phan's registry suggests 1939+...
Where's the registry?
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Tam Phan's early Paramount registry. There are five pages; s/n A854 (one number higher than mine) is on page 2.
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I took Pastor Bob's advice and have been collecting the vintage pista parts for this Paramount. The frameset has been at Waterford for a period correct paint job since August 2, so when I get it back I'll have these bits to build it up with. None are actually correct for the bike, but they should look OK on it and will be functional.

Here's the stem and handlebars mounted on my '72 Paramount for the photo. Both are new manufacture.



Campy Record pista crankset or "chainset" with a N.O.S. Campy Record 50T chainring:



Campy Record high flange pista hubs. I'll lace them to a pair of Mavic Montlhery tubular rims I picked up on eBay.



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I'm just going to bask in this for a second.
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Well, I am STOKED!

Richard Schwinn e-mailed me these snapshots this morning. The frameset is out of the paint shop and ready to ship, and I've accumulated all the parts needed to make it ridable.



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WOW, super!
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Can't wait to see it built!
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That's freakin awesome!
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Congrats Stan! I can't wait to see it built up. We'll need a ride report.

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WOW, super!
Originally Posted by -holiday76
Can't wait to see it built!
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That's freakin awesome!
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Congrats Stan! I can't wait to see it built up. We'll need a ride report.

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Thanks, all. I'm pretty excited about this project. Once I get the frameset, it won't take long to get it put together.

Bob, my first stop will be Hellyer Park Velodrome, and I'll write up the experience.
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