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So we heard from the last college for daughter #2 . She got accepted at NYU. Her 3 top choices are USC, NYU, and Temple.
No way she is going to USC. It's too far away and very expensive. I know it has the #1 program for her current intended major (Film) in the whole effing country, but that's just not happening based on her maturity and other issues. If she shows some maturity she possibly could transfer there after 1 or 2 years closer to home.
NYU is possible, but TBH the cost of NYU (after the modest scholarship they gave her) will cost about 6x the cost of Temple (which has offered her free tuition for 4 years, we just pay expenses).
We are going to have a big fight on our hands, and I don't look forward to it. There will be more drama to come.
No way she is going to USC. It's too far away and very expensive. I know it has the #1 program for her current intended major (Film) in the whole effing country, but that's just not happening based on her maturity and other issues. If she shows some maturity she possibly could transfer there after 1 or 2 years closer to home.
NYU is possible, but TBH the cost of NYU (after the modest scholarship they gave her) will cost about 6x the cost of Temple (which has offered her free tuition for 4 years, we just pay expenses).
We are going to have a big fight on our hands, and I don't look forward to it. There will be more drama to come.
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So we heard from the last college for daughter #2 . She got accepted at NYU. Her 3 top choices are USC, NYU, and Temple.
No way she is going to USC. It's too far away and very expensive. I know it has the #1 program for her current intended major (Film) in the whole effing country, but that's just not happening based on her maturity and other issues. If she shows some maturity she possibly could transfer there after 1 or 2 years closer to home.
NYU is possible, but TBH the cost of NYU (after the modest scholarship they gave her) will cost about 6x the cost of Temple (which has offered her free tuition for 4 years, we just pay expenses).
We are going to have a big fight on our hands, and I don't look forward to it. There will be more drama to come.
No way she is going to USC. It's too far away and very expensive. I know it has the #1 program for her current intended major (Film) in the whole effing country, but that's just not happening based on her maturity and other issues. If she shows some maturity she possibly could transfer there after 1 or 2 years closer to home.
NYU is possible, but TBH the cost of NYU (after the modest scholarship they gave her) will cost about 6x the cost of Temple (which has offered her free tuition for 4 years, we just pay expenses).
We are going to have a big fight on our hands, and I don't look forward to it. There will be more drama to come.
We told daughter she was restricted to a day's drive from home and that if she wanted to go anywhere but U of MD it had better be significantly more selective. She took it badly at first, but limited her apps accordingly and ended up out of state.
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I don't envy you. I also have quite a bit of sympathy for her, especially since some part of her will probably see your point.
We told daughter she was restricted to a day's drive from home and that if she wanted to go anywhere but U of MD it had better be significantly more selective. She took it badly at first, but limited her apps accordingly and ended up out of state.
We told daughter she was restricted to a day's drive from home and that if she wanted to go anywhere but U of MD it had better be significantly more selective. She took it badly at first, but limited her apps accordingly and ended up out of state.
That said, she is her mother's daughter (very stubborn and determined) so if I had to make a prediction, I expect she will dig in her heels and we will acquiesce, with certain conditions, to let her go there.
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When I was riding across the country we spent a night at this campground in MN. The stall walls were not equidistant from the toilets. Rather, they were skewed to the left so badly that my left arm and shoulder were up against the wall when sitting, forcing me to "go right."
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When I was riding across the country we spent a night at this campground in MN. The stall walls were not equidistant from the toilets. Rather, they were skewed to the left so badly that my left arm and shoulder were up against the wall when sitting, forcing me to "go right."
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It's tough. She is VERY 18 and does not understand that good opportunities for her are everywhere, and the cost>>value for NYU. I even told her that in retrospect, I would have done well to have gone to Rutgers (with most of my classmates) rather than Johns Hopkins for undergrad, and that's when the gap between state and private college costs was not so wide. She does not get it.
That said, she is her mother's daughter (very stubborn and determined) so if I had to make a prediction, I expect she will dig in her heels and we will acquiesce, with certain conditions, to let her go there.
That said, she is her mother's daughter (very stubborn and determined) so if I had to make a prediction, I expect she will dig in her heels and we will acquiesce, with certain conditions, to let her go there.
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It's tough. She is VERY 18 and does not understand that good opportunities for her are everywhere, and the cost>>value for NYU. I even told her that in retrospect, I would have done well to have gone to Rutgers (with most of my classmates) rather than Johns Hopkins for undergrad, and that's when the gap between state and private college costs was not so wide. She does not get it.
That said, she is her mother's daughter (very stubborn and determined) so if I had to make a prediction, I expect she will dig in her heels and we will acquiesce, with certain conditions, to let her go there.
That said, she is her mother's daughter (very stubborn and determined) so if I had to make a prediction, I expect she will dig in her heels and we will acquiesce, with certain conditions, to let her go there.
If you think that these maybe be significant factors, I'd explore ways of addressing them, appealing to her emotionally. Maybe find out what notable film makers went through Temple and/or Philly in general (I don't think that a Rocky marathon is going to do it, though) and explore their work? And then maybe plant seeds with regards to the autonomy she'd have, even though she wouldn't be that far from home? (Would she be living on campus?)
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It's tough. She is VERY 18 and does not understand that good opportunities for her are everywhere, and the cost>>value for NYU. I even told her that in retrospect, I would have done well to have gone to Rutgers (with most of my classmates) rather than Johns Hopkins for undergrad, and that's when the gap between state and private college costs was not so wide. She does not get it.
That said, she is her mother's daughter (very stubborn and determined) so if I had to make a prediction, I expect she will dig in her heels and we will acquiesce, with certain conditions, to let her go there.
That said, she is her mother's daughter (very stubborn and determined) so if I had to make a prediction, I expect she will dig in her heels and we will acquiesce, with certain conditions, to let her go there.
One piece of advice from an old negotiator is that if you think you're going to give in anyway, it's worth cutting your losses and truncating the conflict phase. Instead, make your personal displeasure (in first person terms), your reasons, and your conditions for assent, clear at or near the beginning of the discussion. That shifts the moral burden onto her and you'll come out of it with advantages you wouldn't have if she "wins" a protracted fight on what she perceives as the merits of the question.
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One piece of advice from an old negotiator is that if you think you're going to give in anyway, it's worth cutting your losses and truncating the conflict phase. Instead, make your personal displeasure (in first person terms), your reasons, and your conditions for assent, clear at or near the beginning of the discussion. That shifts the moral burden onto her and you'll come out of it with advantages you wouldn't have if she "wins" a protracted fight on what she perceives as the merits of the question.
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My kid wants to go to CU. No chance. We're going to try and punt him far away. Chicago would be ideal. Get him out of the bubble.
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To a point. The LandShark is generally in the Super Competition class, which has an 8.90 breakout. That means you can't go quicker than that time. The difference in that rail compared to others, is the wheelbase. Those are around 200 inches, give or take a foot or two, either way, compared to the full sized jobbies, that carry the full 300 inches. Trailering them, and storing them is the upside, along with maneuverability around the pits. The pro classes get all the help and space they need in the pits, and the sportsmen classes get the dirt and the cheap seats.
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It is a very satisfying thing to land like a feather on the exact number you are targeting in the last minute of a long TT interval
It is a very satisfying thing to land like a feather on the exact number you are targeting in the last minute of a long TT interval
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I thought I wanted to go as far away as possible for college and did...for a year. After which I transferred to a better school closer to home.