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Old 11-29-23, 02:45 PM
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Originally Posted by bampilot06
hotel gym.
At least for my experience it is really rare to have others in the hotel gyms when I use, but then again I'm not usually put up in hotels near airports. Heck, then again rare for me to have more than a treadmill and a stationary bike available.
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Originally Posted by big john
Acclimation has a lot to do with perceived comfort. A friend of a friend was stationed in Greenland and came to visit here on what we felt was a chilly day. He was amused that we felt cold. He said there was a "heat wave" in Greenland before he left and the daytime high was about 40f. He said the guys were playing volleyball in shorts and shortsleeves,
Same thing with my cousin who lived in Alaska. He came home to visit his family in the fall or winter, and kept opening the windows complaining it was hot, while his family were shivering.

Conversely, when Hawaii Bro and SIL visit us, they tend to wear jackets in what we consider shirtsleeve weather. Sarasota Sister is similar.
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Originally Posted by Velo Vol
The Appalachian Mountains, the oldest mountain range on earth, are real mountains.

Years ago I went up Mount Evans and it was ~40F of "toastyness" in August. No thanks.
Brutal.
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Old 11-29-23, 04:19 PM
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Under the weather last night and all day today. Digestive issues. It gave me the opportunity to read my first Charles Bukowski book. Absence of the Hero. Uncollected essays. It will not be my last.

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Working at the Post Office, I wore shorts 365 days a year. After retiring., I hesitate to ride if it's below 60. I look at Datlas "time to ride" when it's below freezing and I start shivering.
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Old 11-29-23, 04:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Jack Tone
Working at the Post Office, I wore shorts 365 days a year. After retiring., I hesitate to ride if it's below 60. I look at Datlas "time to ride" when it's below freezing and I start shivering.
Riding in the cold is hard. Much of it is what you're willing to adapt to, hence my talk of shirtless running as long as it's above 20*. The streets being dry helps considerably of course.
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Old 11-29-23, 04:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Jack Tone
Working at the Post Office, I wore shorts 365 days a year. After retiring., I hesitate to ride if it's below 60. I look at Datlas "time to ride" when it's below freezing and I start shivering.
Datlas is just a crazy MF.
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Old 11-29-23, 04:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Mojo31
Datlas is just a crazy MF.
Nah. No such thing as too cold to ride, it’s really just insufficient clothing/gear.

What prevents me from riding in the winter is icy/slippery road conditions.
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Old 11-29-23, 05:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Velo Vol
The Appalachian Mountains, the oldest mountain range on earth, are real mountains.

Years ago I went up Mount Evans and it was ~40F of "toastyness" in August. No thanks.
You forgot about nearby Mt. Mitchell.
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Old 11-29-23, 05:24 PM
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Originally Posted by DougRNS
You forgot about nearby Mt. Mitchell.
I’d hit it.
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Old 11-29-23, 05:27 PM
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Originally Posted by datlas
I’d hit it.
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Originally Posted by datlas
Friends don’t let friends lift.
My son is 11 months post tearing his quads loose. One quad had to be reattached in a second surgery after 8 months when it detached again. Of course, his deadlifts and squats are well over 600# but he'll never be able to do it again, let alone walk properly.

BTW, he also detached a bicep the year before.
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Old 11-29-23, 05:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Mojo31
Datlas is just a crazy MF.
I concur. Then again, he's still "young." I used to ride in any weather when I was younger but my minimum temp is if I have to wear booties, I ain't doing it. Anyway, his ride today definitely makes my 20 mile ride at 39º look laughable.
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Originally Posted by Bah Humbug
Riding in the cold is hard. Much of it is what you're willing to adapt to, hence my talk of shirtless running as long as it's above 20*. The streets being dry helps considerably of course.
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You forgot about nearby Mt. Mitchell.
May have missed our last chance to go up nearer by Clingman's Dome (only a few dozen feet shorter, but much worse traffic to contend with) this year.

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At anytime during the climb did you think, "This isn't actually a mountain?"
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Originally Posted by Velo Vol
At anytime during the climb did you think, "This isn't actually a mountain?"
No, it qualified. It was way less steep than, say, Whiteface Mountain, but still a mountain in its own right. Towards the end of the climb I was actually feeling the effects of the altitude.
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Originally Posted by Velo Vol
At anytime during the climb did you think, "This isn't actually a mountain?"
It's about 40' downhill from my apartment.

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Originally Posted by genejockey
What's your doctor's opinion on walking vs NOT walking WRT bone density?
this was not discussed but i don’t want her opinion, i want to know what the science says. I did ask her if standing all day would help restore my bone density and she said no. To clarify; I asked her about restoring not maintaining my bone density. Apparently stress to the bones is what is needed. (Think heel strike while running) Walking won't do this. I only know what she told me.

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this was not discussed but i don’t want her opinion, i want to know what the science says. I did ask her if standing all day would help restore my bone density and she said no. To clarify; I asked her about restoring not maintaining my bone density. Apparently stress to the bones is what is needed. (Think heel strike while running) Walking won't do this. I only know what she told me.

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May have missed our last chance to go up nearer by Clingman's Dome (only a few dozen feet shorter, but much worse traffic to contend with) this year
Are you enjoying Trans Siberian Orchestra on your favorite music streaming platform?
I am listening to them now.

In addition to listening to TSO, I am reviewing my preoperative instructions. In 48 hours I'll be resting and recovering peacefully at home in the Northwest Metro Atlanta area.
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Originally Posted by Bah Humbug
Why? I do them too. They're great for hip mobility.
I did them years ago. I tried recently and had balance issues.
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Old 11-29-23, 07:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Velo Vol
Do you agree with this datlas ? Walking not being sufficient to maintain bone density?

Anyone who says anything below 70F, no matter what the elevation, is "toasty," is delusional.
Many 50 years ago I remember walking around Reno in a t-shirt, when the temps were in the mid 20s. I was in my early 20s.

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Originally Posted by LesterOfPuppets
It's about 40' downhill from my apartment.
You live in a not-normal place.
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I am listening to them now.
Spreadsheet activities. Listening to an interview right now.
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Originally Posted by Velo Vol
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You can't have missed that. No shirts over 20*. It's a rule. HTFU.
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Originally Posted by Velo Vol
You live in a not-normal place.
LAJ's been known to ride up some pretty mountainy mountains
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Originally Posted by datlas
Nah. No such thing as too cold to ride, it’s really just insufficient clothing/gear.

What prevents me from riding in the winter is icy/slippery road conditions.
Studded tires... The solution to ice on the road. When I rode to work this morning it was in the mid 20's (F) with patches of snow and ice. I would not attempt it without studded tires. The hardtail MTB I rode today has Schwalbe Marathon Winter Plus studded tires. My gravel/touring bike has a set of 45 NRTH Gravdal Tires. And for icy conditions I have a set of Vee Snow Shoe studded tires for the fat tire bike.
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