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Old 10-26-17, 06:49 PM
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Dented headtube - a rare save...

With facilitation help I picked up a Raleigh Mixte for my sister and got it home. Finally started tearing it down this week to do the clean. lube, etc - and had an unpleasant surprise. The headtube was dented. Neither the gentleman who assisted nor I noticed this, the bike is white and it wasn't obvious from a casual inspection. It sure was now...





But it wasn't horrible (or we'd have noticed it), just made the front of the tube a bit flat. The fork had been a bit stiff in turning, I had attributed that to dry bearings but it was also rubbing against the dent. Checked the steerer with a rule though, perfectly straight. Forks correctly aligned too. Whatever caused it was a dead-shot right on the headtube face between the lugs. Didn't mar the headbadge at all.

Fix or leave? A $75 bike, Raleigh 20-30 thick steel tubing, very short headtube on a very small mixte - why attempt a fix of course. I removed the headset and headbadge and - and in a nice bit of luck - found that a 22mm socket wrench I had perfectly fit the opening, not too snug nor too loose.

So I greased up the inside of the tube and first hammered a 20mm socket through it first to relieve the dent a little, then ran the 22 through it. The results:





Looks good, the tube is nice and round again. No indications of stressing, just some paint flaking that I'll need to touch up. I'm good with this I think, not worried about potential safety issues- this tubing is some thick stuff. If it were high-end tubing it would have been a write-off.

The only bad thing is that my ears are still ringing, guess who forgot to insert ear plugs before commencing to whanging on the sockets with a hammer? I should know better..
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Old 10-26-17, 06:58 PM
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A exhaust pipe expander might also work, if you can get it deep enough.
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Originally Posted by CliffordK
A exhaust pipe expander might also work, if you can get it deep enough.
I thought about that too but I had the sockets on hand, an expander was plan B assuming I didn't trash the poor bike with plan A.
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Great save, American ingenuity to the rescue again, common sense and a hammer can work wonders.


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I thought about that too but I had the sockets on hand, an expander was plan B assuming I didn't trash the poor bike with plan A.
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Nice work! How was the badge attached?
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@merziac Brute force is highly underrated.
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Originally Posted by tyler_fred
Nice work! How was the badge attached?
Thanks! Solid domed rivets, typical Raleigh Herron badge. I popped off the tabs inside the tube and it came right off.
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Genius. Kinda like vintage bike whack-a-mole.
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Originally Posted by PilotFishBob
Thanks! Solid domed rivets, typical Raleigh Herron badge. I popped off the tabs inside the tube and it came right off.
What does one use to reattach a headbadge? The same style rivet?
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I like the Raleigh no-fill brazing evident on the head lugs
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Definitely better without the dent, and a clever solution to it. Unless the steerer was being impeded or misaligned (didn't think either was the case), that would have been strictly a cosmetic issue. Always good to get a vintage Raleigh back on the road.
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And it took a beating and still lives to tell about it. Seen plenty of Raleigh's like this that are doing just fine way down the road.


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I like the Raleigh no-fill brazing evident on the head lugs
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Amen brother, don't I know it.


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@merziac Brute force is highly underrated.
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Originally Posted by merziac
Common sense and a hammer can work wonders.
Great quote. Unfortunately, not a natural pair.
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Very true, but like the ying and the yang can very zen at times.


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Great quote. Unfortunately, not a natural pair.
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Originally Posted by tyler_fred
What does one use to reattach a headbadge? The same style rivet?
Right, I have the hollow copper rivets for another Raleigh project but not these. Hobbyists use them though so a trip over to Michael's and I should be able to find some and if not I've seen them on on eBay.

I'll just cut them so that a couple of mm of stem protrudes into the tube then bend them flat. That outta do it. I might put a dab of silcone between the badge and tube to make sure things don't rattle, I can't pull it as tight with the rivets without the tools designed for that.

Duct tape and bailing wire, improvisation is my life. You should see the code I write.

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When I see posts about dents I'm on edge because it's usually someone going "I saw something under a microscope, is this a deathtrap??".

Imagine my surprise to see someone with common sense! You've done a good job here.
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Never underestimate the inner MacGuyver in one’s self and of course, the universal usefulness of the lowly hammer!

(Well done sir!)
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Originally Posted by FolderBeholder
.... the universal usefulness of the lowly hammer.

Hammers + brute force = The Bigger Hammer Theory.


Applied correctly, it can be as reliable as gravity.
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nice save!

Another old frame lives to ride another day
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Thanks everone, I may post in "Before" and "After" once I get this thing refurbed and ready to go. My sister can barely hear, hasn't ridden in decades and will only ever be a casual rider. I'm replacing the friction shift Huret setup with a 6 speed Shimano SIS - otherwise it'll be gear-grind city on this. I think the bike has seen enough abuse.
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Nice job. Made a similar save on a Raleigh Pro Mk IV. Worked like a charm.
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If only this could be done on main tubes.
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Old 11-11-17, 11:37 AM
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As a followup, the finished result. It all came out okay, I think my sister will dig it.




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Verry nice finish Love those mixte frames! Great rescue!! What is the rear DR?
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