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Old 03-07-24, 03:27 PM
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The new Masi in person

I remember reading that this existed. I think I may have seen it on the website. But for the first time I walked into a bike shop and they’re on the rack was a brand new chrome lug MASI criterium with Campy components.






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Originally Posted by Robvolz
I remember reading that this existed. I think I may have seen it on the website. But for the first time I walked into a bike shop and they’re on the rack was a brand new chrome lug MASI criterium with Campy components.

At one point you could get one of these for $900 I think I saw, a pretty good deal, may have been closeout or maybe frame only, didn't have my size so it didn't matter.
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That chrome bottom bracket is beautiful. Thanks for sharing.
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That’s actually a pretty reasonable price built up. Especially considering the price of other “new” stuff...
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Nice! Makes me want to draft a tractor-trailer......
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Note the build date 9/2016.

this is different than others I have seen. The unpainted bottom bracket shell.
I think this was built with Potenza- a good group that never got its legs before being withdrawn.

I do laugh as Brian Baylis decades ago mentioned that Faliero dismissed out of hand Brian’s Eisentraut as it had fastback seat stays.
No Good. Bam.

must note that much later Alberto created frames with this seat stay attachment scheme.
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Are pie plates and reflectors required to sell a bike in the US?

What rims are they?
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And what hubs are they?
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They got most of the details spot on, but the 1 1/8" threadless stem kind of sticks out like a sore thumb. Why can't they run a quill stem if they are going to do retro?
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Beautiful frame.
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Originally Posted by icemilkcoffee
They got most of the details spot on, but the 1 1/8" threadless stem kind of sticks out like a sore thumb. Why can't they run a quill stem if they are going to do retro?
That and the hideous crank. The frame is a work of art that deserves better.
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Originally Posted by P!N20
Are pie plates and reflectors required to sell a bike in the US?

What rims are they?
Yes, don't know what rims.
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I'd rather have a D'Urbino Masi.
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I'd rather have a D'Urbino Masi.
Is Simone even moved in yet? And building?
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The rims were of some kind of Taiwanese variety. The hubs look like they might be sunshine. When I looked at the quick release, it had some name I had never heard of. Clearly not Italian.
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Originally Posted by repechage
Note the build date 9/2016.

this is different than others I have seen. The unpainted bottom bracket shell.
I think this was built with Potenza- a good group that never got its legs before being withdrawn.

I do laugh as Brian Baylis decades ago mentioned that Faliero dismissed out of hand Brian’s Eisentraut as it had fastback seat stays.
No Good. Bam.

must note that much later Alberto created frames with this seat stay attachment scheme.
I bought a new 1976 Trek TX900 back in 96, and it had fastback stays, and that bike had quite a bit of flex in the rear stays, but I can't be for sure if the flex was entirely the fault of the fastback design, because back in the very early 80 and back, all bikes had more flex than they did in the mid 80s when steel improved a lot, but they also got away from fastback stays, and only saw them on a few custom bikes, I can't remember seeing them on factory built bikes. But that also means I'm not sure if metallurgy improved that much to reduce the flexing and or was it due to the abondonment of the fastback stays?

I did test ride a Peugeot PS10 something like that, I think it was 83 or 84, without the fastback stays, and that darn thing was a noodle too, but it used Vitus 980 tubing if I remember correctly. I ended up buying a 1984 Trek 660 that had the 531cs because the bike shop guy told me that if I got the lighter weight 760 with 531p version I would not like the noodle feeling to it, and I did test ride a 760 and the darn thing did have a fair amount of flex, enough so that the bottom bracket moved enough to rub the chain on both sides of the front derailleur when I was climbing a grade, and the rear wheel would rub against both brake blocks, the 660 wouldn't do that. Supposedly the 531p tubing was only designed for a person under 145 if I remember correctly, not sure what the Vitus 980 was made for.
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I know some of you will say geometry, but the PS10 and the Trek 760 were darn near the same from what I can remember, but I think the bottom bracket was lower on the PS10.

I didn't buy the Peugeot so I can't recall the model exactly. I know there was P, S, and a 10, and it seems another letter was somewhere, but maybe not.
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Originally Posted by IdahoBrett
Nice! Makes me want to draft a tractor-trailer......
Meh. It's been done.
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There's a pretty blue one available in Ohio. They're asking $1200.

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Originally Posted by repechage
Is Simone even moved in yet? And building?
3-6 months is what he told me.
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Originally Posted by rekmeyata
I bought a new 1976 Trek TX900 back in 96, and it had fastback stays, and that bike had quite a bit of flex in the rear stays, but I can't be for sure if the flex was entirely the fault of the fastback design, because back in the very early 80 and back, all bikes had more flex than they did in the mid 80s when steel improved a lot, but they also got away from fastback stays, and only saw them on a few custom bikes, I can't remember seeing them on factory built bikes. But that also means I'm not sure if metallurgy improved that much to reduce the flexing and or was it due to the abondonment of the fastback stays?

I did test ride a Peugeot PS10 something like that, I think it was 83 or 84, without the fastback stays, and that darn thing was a noodle too, but it used Vitus 980 tubing if I remember correctly. I ended up buying a 1984 Trek 660 that had the 531cs because the bike shop guy told me that if I got the lighter weight 760 with 531p version I would not like the noodle feeling to it, and I did test ride a 760 and the darn thing did have a fair amount of flex, enough so that the bottom bracket moved enough to rub the chain on both sides of the front derailleur when I was climbing a grade, and the rear wheel would rub against both brake blocks, the 660 wouldn't do that. Supposedly the 531p tubing was only designed for a person under 145 if I remember correctly, not sure what the Vitus 980 was made for.
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I know some of you will say geometry, but the PS10 and the Trek 760 were darn near the same from what I can remember, but I think the bottom bracket was lower on the PS10.

I didn't buy the Peugeot so I can't recall the model exactly. I know there was P, S, and a 10, and it seems another letter was somewhere, but maybe not.
PSV-10s? I think that was Super Vitus 980.
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Very nice mix of old and new .
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Originally Posted by cb400bill
There's a pretty blue one available in Ohio. They're asking $1200.

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the bike will be to my eye here and review of the geometry in the 20-teens, decent, and of higher more trail design than the GC’s of the 70’s and even early 1980’s. mid 80’s the model was redesigned again, and even less rake or offset, you get to select the term. They will be decent bikes, maybe a bit dull, to use a word. The most recent bikes have a bit less bottom bracket drop, 2-3mm less than the 1970’s bikes.
keeping in mind that the very small and very tall frames have distortions.

these later bikes have a fork that just has lost out in the style department, the blade curve more of a dog leg vs a parabolic form. Masi was a style leader. The forks were brazed up with straight blades and the curve introduced over a custom made bending mandrel, there was some variation, this was a “by hand and eye” operation.

I do not think the attachment scheme for the seat stays would survive a blind test to attempt to isolate any one style over another.
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Originally Posted by iab
3-6 months is what he told me.
He is tolerant. It has been literally years. I would be bewildered and have found another place.
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Originally Posted by repechage
He is tolerant. It has been literally years. I would be bewildered and have found another place.
That's the question. Why not build in some garage? Who's covering the nut to pay off Alberto? But he was very optimistic, a change from his FB posts. Nice to see.
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