BENOTTO CELO-CINTA: Got tips for wrapping transparent bar tape?
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BENOTTO CELO-CINTA: Got tips for wrapping transparent bar tape?
I love my LBS for keeping this stuff on the shelves for so many years even though they tell me that absolutely no one had ever actually bought it...
Until today that is...
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I’ve ridden with it, so I know what to expect there, but I’ve never wrapped with it...
Typing the instrucciones into Google translator basically informs me to:
’Wrap the bars tight. Heat the lead end (w/ flame), and apply pressure to adhere.’
Ok. Simple enough in concept, but for those of you who have dealt with this classic tape before, what tips can you share that might ensure a clean looking successful wrap job?
I’d like to wrap from the bar ends up, and I’m hoping I can avoid having to tie the tape off. Should I expect the heat treatment be sufficient to hold the termination point? If not, I suppose a fine monofilament would work as an incognito finish.
And lastly, what should I be aware of in general in regards to wrapping celo-cinto?
The bike still needs to be built, but when the time finally comes to wrap these bars, I know I’ll greatly appreciate your shared experience here. Thanks all!
Until today that is...
— — —
I’ve ridden with it, so I know what to expect there, but I’ve never wrapped with it...
Typing the instrucciones into Google translator basically informs me to:
’Wrap the bars tight. Heat the lead end (w/ flame), and apply pressure to adhere.’
Ok. Simple enough in concept, but for those of you who have dealt with this classic tape before, what tips can you share that might ensure a clean looking successful wrap job?
I’d like to wrap from the bar ends up, and I’m hoping I can avoid having to tie the tape off. Should I expect the heat treatment be sufficient to hold the termination point? If not, I suppose a fine monofilament would work as an incognito finish.
And lastly, what should I be aware of in general in regards to wrapping celo-cinto?
The bike still needs to be built, but when the time finally comes to wrap these bars, I know I’ll greatly appreciate your shared experience here. Thanks all!
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My advice is buy 2 sets of that tape .... just in case you mess up , even if you don't you will have more of it and it is beautiful. I have used the heat method , but to be honest as crazy as it sounds my mini glue gun worked wonders and clean up was easy just use it sparingly . I am interested to hear what others have done .
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My advice is buy 2 sets of that tape .... just in case you mess up , even if you don't you will have more of it and it is beautiful. I have used the heat method , but to be honest as crazy as it sounds my mini glue gun worked wonders and clean up was easy just use it sparingly . I am interested to hear what others have done .
If it doesn't work, you have ribbon for birthday gifts...
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Does that mean the tape isn’t as forgiving as other types? I could easily imagine a certain amount of stretch or deformity takes place once it’s wrapped tight. If so, it would seem that a “re-do” might not come out very well.
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The way I used to do it when I worked in a bike shop was to wrap from the top down. (I'd cut a small length off to cover the brake-lever clamp first which would make the roll that much shorter). I'd put a small piece of scotch-type tape on the start end on top of the bar to keep it from sliding and wrap very tightly. Tuck what's left into the bar and cap it or plug it. (Looks like yours come with both?). I found that the smoother wraps like this one didn't have too much of a shingling-direction issue compared to cork tape, for example. Be careful, though; if you think you want to overlap a lot, give the brake-clamp snippet a miss - but it does look better if it is covered - in my opinion.
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I've wrapped it both ways: up and down. The melting the end thing does work, but you might want to reinforce it by wicking in a drop of superthin superglue. Don't get to vigorous with the flame or you will light the stuff. Scotch tape works fine, if you really need termination.
For my own bike BITD, I'd wrap this stuff top down. Most people did it that way during the great Benotto Cello tape craze, as that was still the common way to wrap. Bottom to top was a bit foreign and European or something...
For my own bike BITD, I'd wrap this stuff top down. Most people did it that way during the great Benotto Cello tape craze, as that was still the common way to wrap. Bottom to top was a bit foreign and European or something...
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I’ve wrapped from top down once, but that was with cotton tape. The thick overlapping edges tended to curl forward under weight.
I suppose that as thin as the celo tape is, this shouldn’t be a worry as long as the wrap is good and tight?
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And the celo tape held in place well?
I’ve wrapped from top down once, but that was with cotton tape. The thick overlapping edges tended to curl forward under weight.
I suppose that as thin as the celo tape is, this shouldn’t be a worry as long as the wrap is good and tight?
I’ve wrapped from top down once, but that was with cotton tape. The thick overlapping edges tended to curl forward under weight.
I suppose that as thin as the celo tape is, this shouldn’t be a worry as long as the wrap is good and tight?
As far as the heat thing, I never bothered - I just wrapped it about 1/2" longer at the end of the bar, folded it inside and installed the bar end caps. Works like a charm. Stretch it a bit when mounting.
Here's what my recent use of Benotto tape looked like after completion:
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Try placing one end of the tape on the right side bar top, with the rest of the tape roll pointing forward and to the left at an angle. Use scotch tape to tape that end to the bar. Then fold the tape over the part you just taped down, so the tape roll is now pointing forward and to the right. Now wrap. The taped end is hidden under the rest of the tape.
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I always wrapped bottom up in the olden days, and lit a match to stick the end. The hot glue is probably a good solution.
Wrapped some 44 width Noodles recently and barely had enough length - and that’s with minimal overlap. I did that wrap top down and used Velox plugs.
Wrapped some 44 width Noodles recently and barely had enough length - and that’s with minimal overlap. I did that wrap top down and used Velox plugs.
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I used the stuff religiously bitd, and wrapped from the top down, affixed with cellophane tape and reinforced with electrical tape as finishing tape. Yes, the edges on the upper part of the bend will curl over time if you use the top/bottom method, but guess what? If you wrap bottom/top, the tape will curl from use on the bottom part of the bar. I guess it all depends where you want the curling to occur
As far as the heat thing, I never bothered - I just wrapped it about 1/2" longer at the end of the bar, folded it inside and installed the bar end caps. Works like a charm. Stretch it a bit when mounting.
Here's what my recent use of Benotto tape looked like after completion:
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As far as the heat thing, I never bothered - I just wrapped it about 1/2" longer at the end of the bar, folded it inside and installed the bar end caps. Works like a charm. Stretch it a bit when mounting.
Here's what my recent use of Benotto tape looked like after completion:
DD
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Do you use Benotto only for a period correct vintage 70s (edit: 80s?) bike?
Anyone using Benotto tape on a more modern bike, e.g. a retro roadie or a all-neu ride?
Anyone using Benotto tape on a more modern bike, e.g. a retro roadie or a all-neu ride?
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And the celo tape held in place well?
I’ve wrapped from top down once, but that was with cotton tape. The thick overlapping edges tended to curl forward under weight.
I suppose that as thin as the celo tape is, this shouldn’t be a worry as long as the wrap is good and tight?
I’ve wrapped from top down once, but that was with cotton tape. The thick overlapping edges tended to curl forward under weight.
I suppose that as thin as the celo tape is, this shouldn’t be a worry as long as the wrap is good and tight?
Top down works better for me, but I'm not on the hoods all the time either. IIRC cello tape doesn't have much tendency to curl. BITD I was racing juniors, which sort of combined raw aggression with poor judgement, and the tape would usually get crashed out before wearing out.
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About 20% of my collection has Benotto tape and I also do top-down without any weird curling. As others have said, stretch it a bit or it'll scoot around. The only real tip I can give to anyone working with this stuff is that you can somewhat control the shade you end up with by painting the bars before you wrap. This probably won't affect you since you're doing dark blue, but lighter colors like yellow and white tend to come out a bit dingy since the darker bar material shows through a bit. I just did a set yellow a few days ago and with a coat of yellow paint on the bars it turned out quite a bit brighter than my initial 6" test wrap did. What I look for is color variation between the single-layer areas and the overlapped areas - if the overlaps are a different color and that's the color you want, find some paint.
I was under the impression that Benotto was more of an early-'80s phenomenon and that most people rode cotton in the '70s, but I'd be happy to be corrected.
I was under the impression that Benotto was more of an early-'80s phenomenon and that most people rode cotton in the '70s, but I'd be happy to be corrected.
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This happened at almost the same time as skin shorts. Early skin shorts were very shiny compared to modern shorts. Everyone and their bikes were shiny for a couple years.
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As for stretching, doing it by feel worked fine for me like cotton and "cork" tape, and it stays in place surprisingly well. You can fool around with it a bit without problems, until you are satisfied.
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Top down is the only way for this tape or any thin one layer tape IMO.
Oh- and like the above, polish bars to a high shine or paint them.
Oh- and like the above, polish bars to a high shine or paint them.
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It is translucent. Clean up the handlebars a bit before wrapping. You could go all the way to a high polish as FBOATSB suggests, but at least get them clean and uniform.
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How much did they charge, and what colors do they have...(or alternatively, what is the name of the "local" shop?)
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In my experience, Benotto (and similar tapes) don't play nice with aero cable routing. If you try to move the cable into a specific position(usually up the bars), the tape loosens. It is the ultimate in cleanliness and durability though. Grippy in my perpetually sweaty hands.
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Your tape looks well preserved. Install w/o heat.
If you find it brittle, well, IME, heat or flame will not help.
If you still wish to use brittle tape, then you could tape the ends as I did on this stiff vinyl 'tape'. The vinyl required a wide strip to hold in place securely, with ribbon yours could be more elegant. Black hockey stick tape.
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If you find it brittle, well, IME, heat or flame will not help.
If you still wish to use brittle tape, then you could tape the ends as I did on this stiff vinyl 'tape'. The vinyl required a wide strip to hold in place securely, with ribbon yours could be more elegant. Black hockey stick tape.
pic to follow.
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Also, for anyone thinking of trying to do a harlequin pattern with Benotto, give up now and save yourself some time. I spent over two hours trying to do a red/yellow pattern last week and would have gotten a better result if I'd just punched myself in the face for the same amount of time. It might be possible with some spray adhesive on the bars, but that seems like the recipe for another type of disaster altogether.