Tommasini barn find? Help needed.
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Tommasini barn find? Help needed.
Hey,
I found a racing bike in my grandfather's shed. Think it's a Tommasini. I'd like to restore it but i know little about this. Will upload pics as soon as possible. But as newbie, i need 10 posts. So. Looking for experts who want to assist me.
I found a racing bike in my grandfather's shed. Think it's a Tommasini. I'd like to restore it but i know little about this. Will upload pics as soon as possible. But as newbie, i need 10 posts. So. Looking for experts who want to assist me.
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MTK,
Any markings on the seat stays, rear-drops or front drops, what do they say?
I thought that Tommasini's had a panto on the rear brake bridge and a T on the tops of the fork and a stylized T on the BB shell... but no expert on that so can't be definitive.
Tommasini expert will chime in soon there are a lot of them on this forum.
In any case lugs look good on my small screen, so for free even if not a T ride and enjoy.
Ben
Any markings on the seat stays, rear-drops or front drops, what do they say?
I thought that Tommasini's had a panto on the rear brake bridge and a T on the tops of the fork and a stylized T on the BB shell... but no expert on that so can't be definitive.
Tommasini expert will chime in soon there are a lot of them on this forum.
In any case lugs look good on my small screen, so for free even if not a T ride and enjoy.
Ben
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Looks pretty sweet to me. Legit or not it looks like a high quality frame. Hope it fits you. Is there a box of parts with it? Wheels?
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check the inside of the drive side bottom stay....not sure if it is just dirt or stray grass, but kinda looks like a crack
also looks like a repaint....see some dripping paint
good chance it is not a tommasini..... repaint and components but need real experts
but still could be a nice ride
also looks like a repaint....see some dripping paint
good chance it is not a tommasini..... repaint and components but need real experts
but still could be a nice ride
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Is there a “T” cutout on the underside of bottom bracket? That has a lot of features of a late 70’s - early 80’s Tommasini. Only question I have is the fork, which on yours doesn’t look to have any distinguishing marks. Some Tommy’s from that era, I think, will have a blank fork crown, but it is less common. Here are pics of a similar era Tommasini I have. It’s a repaint and I think the decals are from later than the ‘81 - ‘82 date of this one.
https://www.flickr.com/photos/151996...57679058778848
https://www.flickr.com/photos/151996...57679058778848
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I'm not the expert, lol, but it definitely has a certain look. Gotta love those cutouts, on the head tube lugs. 👍 Good luck, hope it's "legit". 😎
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Just want to point out that it is my size and ........
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Interestingly there was an alleged Tommasini posted here recently which has some similarities to yours: https://www.bikeforums.net/classic-v...l#post20969652
I'd also like to see under the bottom bracket shell and if the dropouts are stamped 'Gipiemme' or 'Campagnolo' or nothing.
I'd also like to see under the bottom bracket shell and if the dropouts are stamped 'Gipiemme' or 'Campagnolo' or nothing.
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Could be very early 70's Tommasini. The fork crown should have a "T" . The Asian junk parts are throwing it off as they appear to be from the mid to late 80's.
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It's definitely not early 1970s as it has the Portacatena dropout, placing it 1978 to circa 1983. Some of the early Racing models were economy frames, lacking the usual embossing and cutouts, though they typically have the chainring embossed fork crown. I can't confirm that it is a Tommasini but it is a high grade frame.
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It's definitely not early 1970s as it has the Portacatena dropout, placing it 1978 to circa 1983. Some of the early Racing models were economy frames, lacking the usual embossing and cutouts, though they typically have the chainring embossed fork crown. I can't confirm that it is a Tommasini but it is a high grade frame.
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Here is a link to the thread in C&V, for Tommasini discussions and gathering information:The Tommasini Lounge. I got a lot of good information from this thread when I built my Prestige, and @T-Mar was a great source of input as well. The business website link:Tommasini Cicli, you can use their link to ask questions about specific bikes and models, but take it with a grain of salt, also.
There is a pretty good Facebook group for Tommasini, the family participates and offers responses frequently, as it is set up and moderated by the business. Please keep us updated if you do decide to build this one up, it looks like has some good potential in it.
Bill
There is a pretty good Facebook group for Tommasini, the family participates and offers responses frequently, as it is set up and moderated by the business. Please keep us updated if you do decide to build this one up, it looks like has some good potential in it.
Bill
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Dropouts are stamped Campagnolo.
Bottom bracket looks like one from Kevindale's list. Uploaded pics in my album, but cannot post them yet.
Being a newbie sucks.
Maybe one of you guys can post themfor me.
Have looked at all the threads you suggested.
Restoration is high likely.
Should i replace the Japanese parts(Sugino, diacompe) with Campa parts?
How big are my odds to find a Tommasini fork?
Thx for all the advice.
Bottom bracket looks like one from Kevindale's list. Uploaded pics in my album, but cannot post them yet.
Being a newbie sucks.
Maybe one of you guys can post themfor me.
Have looked at all the threads you suggested.
Restoration is high likely.
Should i replace the Japanese parts(Sugino, diacompe) with Campa parts?
How big are my odds to find a Tommasini fork?
Thx for all the advice.
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Dropouts are stamped Campagnolo.
Bottom bracket looks like one from Kevindale's list. Uploaded pics in my album, but cannot post them yet.
Being a newbie sucks.
Maybe one of you guys can post themfor me.
Have looked at all the threads you suggested.
Restoration is high likely.
Should i replace the (Asian) parts(Sugino, diacompe) with Campa parts?
How big are my odds to find a Tommasini fork?
Thx for all the advice.
Bottom bracket looks like one from Kevindale's list. Uploaded pics in my album, but cannot post them yet.
Being a newbie sucks.
Maybe one of you guys can post themfor me.
Have looked at all the threads you suggested.
Restoration is high likely.
Should i replace the (Asian) parts(Sugino, diacompe) with Campa parts?
How big are my odds to find a Tommasini fork?
Thx for all the advice.
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Zeus British thread headset...? Interesting.
Campagnolo drop outs. Has the cut out lugs but not the engraving.
Looks like a fun bike to restore, though.
Campagnolo drop outs. Has the cut out lugs but not the engraving.
Looks like a fun bike to restore, though.
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Zeus headset. The plot thickens...
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Given the additional picture showing the bottom bracket shell treatment, I have no reason to believe this is not a legitimate Tommasini.
The lack of embossing, particularly on the fork crown, suggests that this could be a tretubi version of the Racing model. I'm not aware of Tommasini having produced any frames below this level (i.e. Aelle or Zeta) but it would be interesting to know the seat post diameter and whether the bottom inside of the fork's steerer tube has the five helical ridges indicative of a Columbus steerer. This would aid in determining the frame's tubing configuration, given that there was some variation in the Racing models.
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Thanks, T-mar.
That's awesome news. I'm certainly going to restore it now.
I've uploaded close-ups of the right rear drop out. Added pics of the front and rear derailleur. Pics of seat stem and front fork and steering tube are on the way. But having some trouble getting them off. So that will take some more time.
I'm going to try to change everything back to Campa. Thinking of sandblasting and powdercoating the frame, but not yet sure it's the best way to go.
That's awesome news. I'm certainly going to restore it now.
I've uploaded close-ups of the right rear drop out. Added pics of the front and rear derailleur. Pics of seat stem and front fork and steering tube are on the way. But having some trouble getting them off. So that will take some more time.
I'm going to try to change everything back to Campa. Thinking of sandblasting and powdercoating the frame, but not yet sure it's the best way to go.
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Thank-you for the additional pictures. They confirm a Portacatena dropout, which corroborates the 1978 to circa 1983 date. The rear derailleur is a slightly later, lower mid-range, Campagnolo Triomphe. It was probably built from a frame. I'm looking forward to info on seat post diameter and the presence or absence of helical ridges inside the bottom of the steerer tube. Regarding a repaint, I would give it a good cleaning and re-assess before I made a decision. There's a lot to said for retaining OEM paint and decals, especially on a bicycle like a Tommasini, even if they are far from pristine. Picture assist...
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Thanks for the info.
Do you have any idea where to get a Tommasini fork? Preferably in Europe.
I'm from Belgium.
The rest of the stuff i can find easily.
I'm currently negotiating on Campa brakes, headset and Nuevo Record derailleur.
Do you have any idea where to get a Tommasini fork? Preferably in Europe.
I'm from Belgium.
The rest of the stuff i can find easily.
I'm currently negotiating on Campa brakes, headset and Nuevo Record derailleur.