jonwvara 

The OP is to be congratulated for doggedly pressing forward in spite of stiff headwinds.

But what does "not ture" mean? Also, what's a "comapny? I'm getting a little confused.

seypat

xiaoman1 

It can be...it's only missing punctuation, a statement to a person.... Tuesday, weld.
Best, Ben

jonwvara 

Also, is it possible to sign up for the control group in this experiment? I would prefer to receive the placebo, if that's an option.

Oldairhead 

If you just shoot him an email I'm sure that he will correct that!

clubman 

No vaccine for you....next!

nlerner

Maybe you are getting the placebo. It’s a random blind trial.

xiaoman1 

Or maybe it was called something else....in the future, we should operationalize all terms in order to lessen the opportunity for any misunderstanding....who's on 1st or is 1st now 2nd?
Best, Ben

pastorbobnlnh 

​​​​​​My wife just watched a video on Facebook where many different international physicians state, "There is no pandemic and the vaccines are not safe."

Certainly Facebook can't be wrong? Do I just throw away my face covering and call everyone back to worship this Sunday?

cudak888 

Call the IRB. This study is busy shooting the Belmont Report with an automatic rifle. "Do no harm" my foot.

Citations please! Where did you get your sources, oh wise H-Mur?

No. That's what the OP did.

-Kurt

Fahrenheit531 

At this point the OP can choke on the posts. I'm intrigued by the evolving false quotations of Johnny Rotten, however.
Which is probably the "experiment."

cb400bill

Throw, not through.

Drillium Dude 

He had a famous brother, too, whom was honored by naming a class of US Navy frigate after him:

Oliver Hazard Perry (August 23, 1785 – August 23, 1819) was an American naval commander, born in South Kingstown, Rhode Island. As the best-known and most prominent member of the Perry family naval dynasty, he was the son of Sarah Wallace Alexander and United States Navy Captain Christopher Raymond Perry, and older brother of Commodore Matthew C. Perry.

Perry served in the West Indies during the Quasi War of 1798–1800 against France, in the Mediterranean during the Barbary Wars of 1801–1815, and in the Caribbean fighting piracy and the slave trade, but is most noted for his heroic role in the War of 1812 during the 1813 Battle of Lake Erie.[1] During the war against Britain, Perry supervised the building of a fleet at Erie, Pennsylvania. He earned the title "Hero of Lake Erie" for leading American forces in a decisive naval victory at the Battle of Lake Erie, receiving a Congressional Gold Medal and the Thanks of Congress.[2][3] His leadership materially aided the successful outcomes of all nine Lake Erie military campaign victories, and the victory was a turning point in the battle for the west in the war.[3] He is remembered for the words on his battle flag, "Don't Give Up the Ship", which was a tribute to the dying command of his colleague Captain James Lawrence of USS Chesapeake. He is also known for his message to General William Henry Harrison which reads in part, "We have met the enemy and they are ours; ..."

Perry became embroiled in a long-standing and bitter controversy with the commander of USS Niagara, Captain Jesse Elliott, over their conduct in the Battle of Lake Erie, and both were the subject of official charges. In 1815, he successfully commanded Java in the Mediterranean during the Second Barbary War. So seminal was his career that he was lionized in the press (being the subject of scores of books and articles).[4] He has been frequently memorialized, and many places, ships and persons have been named in his honor.

But wait - there's more:

The Oliver Hazard Perry class is a class of guided-missile frigates named after the U.S. Commodore Oliver Hazard Perry, the hero of the naval Battle of Lake Erie. Also known as the Perry or FFG-7 (commonly "fig seven") class, the warships were designed in the United States in the mid-1970s as general-purpose escort vessels inexpensive enough to be bought in large numbers to replace World War II-era destroyers and complement 1960s-era Knox-class frigates. In Admiral Elmo Zumwalt's "high low fleet plan", the FFG-7s were the low capability ships with the Spruance-class destroyers serving as the high capability ships. Intended to protect amphibious landing forces, supply and replenishment groups, and merchant convoys from aircraft and submarines, they were also later part of battleship-centred surface action groups and aircraft carrier battle groups/strike groups.[1] Fifty-five ships were built in the United States: 51 for the United States Navy and four for the Royal Australian Navy (RAN). In addition, eight were built in Taiwan, six in Spain, and two in Australia for their navies. Former U.S. Navy warships of this class have been sold or donated to the navies of Bahrain, Egypt, Poland, Pakistan, Taiwan, and Turkey.

The first of the 51 U.S. Navy built Oliver Hazard Perry frigates entered into service in 1977, and the last remaining in active service, USS Simpson, was decommissioned on 29 September 2015.[2] The retired vessels were either mothballed or transferred to other navies for continued service. Some of the U.S. Navy's frigates, such as USS Duncan (14.6 years in service) had fairly short careers, while a few lasted as long as 30+ years in active U.S. service, with some lasting even longer after being sold or donated to other navies.

I sincerely hope there were no inaccuracies or outright lies in those two Wikipedia snips.

DD

bark_eater 

I will shamefully admit that I didn't read every whitism in this thread, but sort of wonder what would be in the " C+V Book of Truth" if it was derived from some web crawling AI algorithm.

xiaoman1 

Throw, through or threw...let's call the hole (whole) thing off,
and now back to your local broadcasting network.
Or as a once-famous/infamous politician would say...OPPS!
Best, Ben

Oldairhead 

I dunno, maybe it's just me but I don't know anyone who attended a concert at Winterland who called it a ballroom. That label was "tongue in cheek" for those who didn't actually go inside. If you went to a concert there you know what I mean!

Patti Smith, 1978

3alarmer 

.
...the Takata airbag controversy has shaken my faith in all things Japanese. Before that, I was a blissfully ignorant believer.

Chuck M 

My browser has a back button.

FBOATSB

Watashi ga shiritai no wa, nipponsei no jitensha de shiriaru bangō o kezuru koto de nan-guramu setsuyaku dekiru ka to iu kotodesu. Sō suru koto de kūriki-jō no riten ga arimasu ka? So****e, watashi wa gūguru hon'yaku ni tai****e sekinin o oimasen.

repechage

The censors don't like romaji.

jonwvara 

Yeah, I've been trying for year to sneak in the word "Matsu****a."

Hummer

"The objective of this catalogue is to give our foreign customers a glimpse of Japan's Bicycle Industry."
from insert page in Japan's Bicycle Guide 1951.


The JBG volumes were produced annually starting with Volume 1 in 1951.
These guides include a parts catalogue and were a means by which customers could order bicycles, bicycle parts and accessories from Japan's Bicycle Industry.

The format and organization of the of the volumes over the years.

For those of you who are not familiar with these guides, I will try to give you a flavour. 1952 organization of the guide - from the dust cover.

Forward, How to use the Guide, Index of contents.

Representative Cycle Trade Marks.

Complete Catalogue - Illustrations and Specifications

60 Exporters' names and addresses p151

394 Manufacturers' names and addresses p159

Activities of the Bicycle Business Organizations in Japan

30 Exports' advertisements p201

144 Manufacturers' advertisements p217


In the first five volumes there was an attempt to introduce manufacturing companies and export companies, with lists of exporters and manufactures.

In volume 6, there are no more lists of manufacturers and exporters.

H. Tano and Company are present in the JBG volumes, on the exporter list, while the list existed in the early volumes, and in advertisements.
1951 advertisement says "Exporters and Manufacturers"
1952 advertisement says "Exporters and Manufacturers of Bicycles, Parts and Accessories, Established 1905."
1956 advertisement: Specialists in Bicycles & Sewing machines

The first List of Exporters did not include the topic "Lines of Business"
1955 list of exporters:
H. Tano & Co., Ltd.
Brand: "Milton", "Merdeka", "Garuda"
Line of Business: Bicycles, bicycle parts and accessories,
sewing machines & spare parts, Hard wares
porcelain wares, vacuum flasks.




In the 1970s, H. Tano and Company is exporting bicycles to Western States Imports.

1971 and 1972 advertisements are the same except different colours.

Cycle and Motor-cycle parts and accessories

Registered trademarks in Japan and Indonesia

1976 advertisement says nothing about what the company does, but displays a Centurion Super LeMans bicycle.



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Members of today's studio audience will receive a new imagination.

Fahrenheit531 

So this thread could actually have been:

"Hey I found this really neat book, and while H. Tano and Company have been mentioned as possible manufacturers for Centurion previously it appears this was not the case."

texaspandj

For a long time one "Orthodoxy" was that the Centurion Ironman expert was the same frame as the Centurion Ironman Master. It was repeated over and over. However we now know they differ in several ways. Just someone saying they were different wouldn't cut it if someone held in as high regard as Tmar had said they were the same frame. However, we now know they are different because it's actually physically visible.
Hummer was questioning Tmar stellar work on Centurion serial numbers. Tmar having laid the ground work, Hummer thought/thinks the serial numbers dates are off a bit. His version varies ONLY slightly (as it piggybacks off of Tmar serial number deciphetring) and is the one I use.

Which is worse? Having expectations of someone, comparing yourself to others, or having a big ego? These questions have nothing to do with this thread, but hey, it's 2020 .

imakecircles

If the OP might be interested in further research and reading on the topic, I'd suggest "The Structure of Scientific Revolution" by Thomas Kuhn. Kuhn presents the groundbreaking (at the time) thesis that scientific knowledge is less the accumulation of facts over time, than a series of revolutions in which successive orthodoxies are challenged/laughed at/resisted/and finally accepted as new truths by newer ideas that explain the world better.