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Old 01-05-21, 04:00 PM
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it would be a shame to ruin a perfectly good road bike like that with a janky, bouncy, heavy kickstand. might as well put a flower basket and a banana seat on it. it was never meant to be used with a kickstand. I'll be a standard one would crush the chainstays. ask the manufacturer what they recommend if you really, really want to do that.
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Originally Posted by mack_turtle
it would be a shame to ruin a perfectly good road bike like that with a janky, bouncy, heavy kickstand. might as well put a flower basket and a banana seat on it. it was never meant to be used with a kickstand. I'll be a standard one would crush the chainstays. ask the manufacturer what they recommend if you really, really want to do that.
Yep. Look at what happened with Surly. People were crushing frames, and those are not delicate bikes. Then when Surly blogged about it some people called the company an Anti-kickstandite.
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Old 01-05-21, 04:47 PM
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I stopped at the store on my way back the other day and the young lady from the deli was having a cig break. I asked her if she would hold onto my bike for a minute and the moment she grabbed it, I walked off (to get away from the smoke more than anything). She was still holding it up when I came back even though she's finished her cig. So yeah, who needs a kickstand when you got people.
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Old 01-05-21, 05:40 PM
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Originally Posted by cyccommute
You make big fires.
Funny- I was thinking “That’s about an hour’s worth of wood at most.”
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Originally Posted by Bigbus
I stopped at the store on my way back the other day and the young lady from the deli was having a cig break. I asked her if she would hold onto my bike for a minute and the moment she grabbed it, I walked off (to get away from the smoke more than anything). She was still holding it up when I came back even though she's finished her cig. So yeah, who needs a kickstand when you got people.
Smokers are good bike holders, as they want nothing to do with aerobic exercise, and if one absconds with your bike, well, they won’t get far...

I keep my bikes upright by pedaling them. Between rides they get hung on the garage wall with the other bikes.
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Old 01-05-21, 06:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Milton Keynes
Just gotta be careful where you lean it. I was on a group ride when someone leaned their bike up against a brick pillar. The wind blew the front wheel and turned it ever so slightly, making the wheel roll and the top tube slide down the bricks as the bike fell. Put a bunch of scrapes & scratches into it.
I figured out ways to lean my bikes with reasonably good success, it's second nature now. I try to lean it where the wheels can't be pushed around, still don't always succeed. I also carry a cable lockin my seat bag and if I'm really in doubt I find something to lock it to.
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Old 01-05-21, 07:20 PM
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I keep at least one Velcro strap on the stem and can use it to temporarily clamp a brake lever. Bikes are way more stable to lean with a wheel locked.

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Originally Posted by AdkMtnMonster
Funny- I was thinking “That’s about an hour’s worth of wood at most.”
Maybe the photo is deceiving. There were only about 7-8 pieces in each bundle. I rode about a mile with them, and they were secured with only medium bungees and compression straps. Fires were nice on chilly Easter weekend nights. Cape Henlopen State Park in DE. Neat place. Repurposed military base that was originally created to guard the Delaware Bay from Nazi invasion. It was later donated to the state and transformed into the park.
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Originally Posted by mack_turtle
it would be a shame to ruin a perfectly good road bike like that with a janky, bouncy, heavy kickstand. might as well put a flower basket and a banana seat on it. it was never meant to be used with a kickstand. I'll be a standard one would crush the chainstays. ask the manufacturer what they recommend if you really, really want to do that.
I am all about a wald basket. and I have totally had flowers in one a few times.
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Old 01-06-21, 08:00 AM
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I think typically if the bike is designed to have a kickstand, there is a little gusset welded in there between the chainstays to beef up the area.
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Old 01-06-21, 08:23 AM
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Originally Posted by Reflector Guy
I think typically if the bike is designed to have a kickstand, there is a little gusset welded in there between the chainstays to beef up the area.
Neither of my 2 bikes have that.
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Old 01-06-21, 08:58 AM
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Originally Posted by GlennR
Neither of my 2 bikes have that.
Hmmmm, it could go either way then...
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Old 01-06-21, 09:08 AM
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Originally Posted by Dhos1
Just checked this. No this isn't a joke. I realize I could buy one, but there is a reason they don't come with them so I was curious as to what everyone is using. And I understand if you are on a long ride with no kickstand, then you can lay it down or against a tree or whatever is soft. I mean more like for storage in the garage. This is my fault for phrasing the question poorly. I was never owned a bike without a kickstand...then see other people riding and they have none. So that begged the question what are you holding you prized possession up with. You are damn sure not laying it down in the garage.
No you don’t lay it down in the garage. You hang it from a hook.

Untitled by Stuart Black, on FlickrUntitled by Stuart Black, on Flickr

If you don’t want to hang them, you can buy (or make) a wheel holder but hanging them has a smaller foot print. I have 11 bikes hanging on that wall and can still park a car in there.
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Old 01-06-21, 09:19 AM
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Originally Posted by indyfabz
Maybe the photo is deceiving. There were only about 7-8 pieces in each bundle. I rode about a mile with them, and they were secured with only medium bungees and compression straps. Fires were nice on chilly Easter weekend nights. Cape Henlopen State Park in DE. Neat place. Repurposed military base that was originally created to guard the Delaware Bay from Nazi invasion. It was later donated to the state and transformed into the park.
Just to be clear, I yankin’ your chain. I don’t really make fires all that often whether when camping with a car, backpacking, or bicycle touring. The main reason is that I don’t want to deal with putting a fire out at night before I go to bed nor do I want to deal with making sure I have put out a fire when I leave a campsite in the morning. Many fires have started here in the west due to unattended campfires. I often have barely enough water for me and I don’t want to spare any for a fire.
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Originally Posted by ClydeClydeson
Bike snobs don't like kickstands, except for maybe on dedicated touring or city bikes.

They are not too expensive, though. As mentioned above, be careful if getting one that clamps on a frame tube - it can damage a lightweight frame. If the dropouts on the frame are flat you can get one that is held in place by the rear axle. This can be a bit of a nuisance on a QR wheel but it definitely won't damage the frame.
I built what can best be described as a "city" bike out of an old Centurion Lemans last summer. I left the kickstand on and have since added a basket; then again, this bike violates many norms.

I will admit, with a 4lb sack of sugar and 6 pack of beer in the basket, the steering gets a little sketchy!

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Originally Posted by Dhos1
Just checked this. No this isn't a joke. I realize I could buy one, but there is a reason they don't come with them so I was curious as to what everyone is using. And I understand if you are on a long ride with no kickstand, then you can lay it down or against a tree or whatever is soft. I mean more like for storage in the garage. This is my fault for phrasing the question poorly. I was never owned a bike without a kickstand...then see other people riding and they have none. So that begged the question what are you holding you prized possession up with. You are damn sure not laying it down in the garage.
Yeah, don't put a kickstand on that! Simplest thing to do might be to get a couple of these - do a search for bike trainer wheel riser
For in the garage/outside parking so stuff doesn't fall over, we have a small rack like THIS


Or for check out this list for larger-scale ideas: https://bicycletouringpro.com/bike-racks-for-garage/
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I used a rear chainstay kick stand. I can't "stand" to lay my bike on the ground or against things.
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Old 01-10-21, 04:33 PM
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Originally Posted by DeadGrandpa
Hey now!!! The OP evidently wants a doohickey that keeps his ride vertical when stationary. The "lean it against something" and the "buy a heavy metal bolt-on" options were obvious, and I'm disappointed in those who could think of nothing better.

My lightweight, high tech suggestion is the Click Stand. I use it when I'm touring, but not when doing the regular riding I do. For regular rides I just lean it against something. I'm not affiliated with Click Stand. I just like the product.
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I have “Click-Stands” on a couple of my bikes. They only do two things: 1) keeps the front wheel aligned with frame and 2) keeps the front wheel from turning! You still have to lean the bike against something .
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I have bikes with no kickstands. Also have a couple with kickstands

Just put this one on my ebike. Works fantastic

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...?ie=UTF8&psc=1

In case you haven't notice kickstands are an admission of a limp dick on this site.

BUT I have an ebike so no respect here to begin with....
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Originally Posted by Pop N Wood
In case you haven't notice kickstands are an admission of a limp dick on this site.
My wife's bike has a kickstand while mine doesn't and she has no complaints




Her's also has a spoke protector and valve caps that indicate the tire pressure... and a handle bar bag... and a ultra wide padded Cloud 9 "seat".

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Originally Posted by indyfabz
Oh, to have a garage.

My more frequently used commuter/tourer leans against a wall in my house. My road bike can be stored on a floor to ceiling mount that accommodates two bikes.

A friend has hooks screwed into the ceiling of her garage to hang her bikes upside down by the wheels.
The moral protestations about kickstands are just one of the amusing quirks of cycling culture -- an antidote lest we ever take ourselves too seriously.

I remember when I was in middle school, one day the message came from somewhere, that we had to strip our bikes of every single attachment. Off came our fenders, baskets, kickstands, and so forth. Attachments were suddenly anathema. Some kid would try to remove the built-in Schwinn kickstand, and end up either injuring themselves or being left with a stand that was still attached but had to be held up by a piece of string. Ah, the days of my youth.

Oddly enough, the garage is the place where kick stands seem to be the most useful. There are enough bikes with kickstands that the ones without can be kept out of the way, held up by stands that I made out of plywood. Outside of the house, one can always find a wall, tree, mud pit, grassy knoll, or stonework cistern out in the middle of nowhere. Or, you can also declare that your bike would never be left by itself for more than 50 seconds, thus obviating the need for parking it.
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Originally Posted by sovende
I have “Click-Stands” on a couple of my bikes. They only do two things: 1) keeps the front wheel aligned with frame and 2) keeps the front wheel from turning! You still have to lean the bike against something .
Apparently, you're doing something different from what I do. The included bungees allow me to set the brakes, front and rear, and the Click Stand staff holds the bike at near vertical. Nothing else is needed. Works every time, even when the bike is loaded with a single wheel trailer attached, no problem at all.

Edit: I think we're talking about two different products. The Click Stand I use does not affect the front wheel except to keep it from rolling.

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There was a product called a Flick Stand, which was a little wire leg that would stabilize the front wheel, and would fold out of the way when not in use. I still have the one that I got for my first decent bike in the early 80s. Just locking the front wheel was enough to keep a bike from going caddywampus when leaned against something. It was handy.
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Originally Posted by Gresp15C
The moral protestations about kickstands are just one of the amusing quirks of cycling culture -- an antidote lest we ever take ourselves too seriously.

I remember when I was in middle school, one day the message came from somewhere, that we had to strip our bikes of every single attachment. Off came our fenders, baskets, kickstands, and so forth. Attachments were suddenly anathema. Some kid would try to remove the built-in Schwinn kickstand, and end up either injuring themselves or being left with a stand that was still attached but had to be held up by a piece of string. Ah, the days of my youth.

Oddly enough, the garage is the place where kick stands seem to be the most useful. There are enough bikes with kickstands that the ones without can be kept out of the way, held up by stands that I made out of plywood. Outside of the house, one can always find a wall, tree, mud pit, grassy knoll, or stonework cistern out in the middle of nowhere. Or, you can also declare that your bike would never be left by itself for more than 50 seconds, thus obviating the need for parking it.
I tour with camping. I’d be pretty tired if I didn’t leave my bike alone for more than 50 seconds. Picnic tables, trees and even the ground work fine, and I don’t have to tote them every day. And I certainly don’t want or need one on the custom ti road bike. I couldn’t care less what others do.
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Originally Posted by cyccommute
You make big fires.
Small fire is Ranger policy.

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