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Some cyclists and arrogance

Old 05-18-20, 12:21 PM
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Originally Posted by carminepraha View Post
yup, i had NO IDEA they existed. i've learned so much here. amazing
OK, I'll play, just for the heck of it.

OP: please tell me what realm of human endeavor (vocation, avocation, religion, philosophy, etc.) is free from people who display arrogance?
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Old 05-18-20, 12:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Bah Humbug View Post
Do we think this thread went about as the OP wanted?
You sound happy.
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Old 05-18-20, 12:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Russ Roth View Post
There's also the MUP roadies who really have a complete attitude over anyone who might be in the way or that they have to slow down for or who aren't perfectly on their side; I know there's proper etiquette but don't expect it from a 7yo who's parent is trying to deal with a 5yo with training wheels, it's multi-use for a reason, slow down and go around and move on without a nasty comment.
Obviously they are just poseurs. Everyone knows it's tacky to ride on the MUP. I read it right here on the forum!
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Old 05-18-20, 12:26 PM
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Originally Posted by bruce19 View Post
Ignore them. Ride your ride.
wow. best answer by far! thx
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Old 05-18-20, 12:36 PM
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Originally Posted by bruce19 View Post
Ignore them. Ride your ride.
And then the ignored riders will take to the forums complaining about her/him being arrogant and the circle will be complete.
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Old 05-18-20, 12:59 PM
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And then the ignored riders will take to the forums complaining about her/him being arrogant and the circle will be complete.
Ignoring them is like them having Alzheimer's. They won't know.
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Old 05-18-20, 01:07 PM
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I was ignored once.
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Old 05-18-20, 01:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Sy Reene View Post
Exactly.. some high quality movies have explored this phenomenon of elitist *******s in sport.. "Caddyshack" (Golf), "Dodgeball: A True Underdog Story", "The Karate Kid", "Point Break" (Surfing), "The Big Lebowski" (bowling). It's nothing new.
You missed the best one, Cool Runnings.

Originally Posted by BNSF View Post
Obviously they are just poseurs. Everyone knows it's tacky to ride on the MUP. I read it right here on the forum!
Wait, when I'm out there with the kids am I also a poseur or is it only if I ride the road bike there without the kids?
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Old 05-18-20, 01:41 PM
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Everybody on a bicycle is my best friend because I may need their help, and would willingly give them mine, at some point in the ride. The only ones that are not my friends are groups that present health risks by riding in tight pacelines.

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Old 05-18-20, 02:30 PM
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I don't often waive to others unless they waive to me first, but if we are close enough to make eye contact I do nod. However, if I'm trying to take QOM on one of my favorite Strava segments then I may not even see you at all as all of my concentration is on my breathing (stupid asthma).
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Old 05-18-20, 03:21 PM
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My mom used to tell me when I complained about the "other" kids in school growing up (only black kid in my class thru grade 6) that I have no control over how someone responds to me because their response is based on how they are feeling about themselves. She was a very smart lady.
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Old 05-18-20, 04:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Robert A View Post
Everybody on a bicycle is my best friend because I may need their help, and would willingly give them mine,
The other day I was passing a guy who had stopped in the shade and I was tired but I slowed and asked if he was OK. He said something that I couldn't understand but it sounded positive so I kept going. After a minute I started thinking about it but decided to keep going. My brain stops working when I get tired.
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Old 05-18-20, 04:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Trevtassie View Post
It's funny, I only look at touring cyclists as serious cyclists. Racers are just hobbyists.
Serious, non-snarky question: what makes touring more serious than racing?
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Old 05-18-20, 04:44 PM
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Originally Posted by caloso View Post
Serious, non-snarky question: what makes touring more serious than racing?
I'd also like to know. I'd get it if he said 'commuters' instead of touring though.
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Old 05-18-20, 05:37 PM
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Originally Posted by carminepraha View Post
wow. best answer by far! thx
Couldn’t figure that out on your own?

Sad.
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Old 05-18-20, 05:48 PM
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Originally Posted by guadzilla View Post
(As an aside - i do not wave when i ride. I'd like to think that i am a pretty easy-going person off the bike, but I am not particularly big on inane small-talk or its equivalent, and waving to strangers falls in that category for me - at most, i will acknowledge another rider if i pass them with thumbs up. But i dont really believe that just because another guy is on a bike, he and i are part of some brotherhood and so need to bond. Arrogance? No. More like indifference.)
100% yes.
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Old 05-18-20, 06:22 PM
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Originally Posted by caloso View Post
Serious, non-snarky question: what makes touring more serious than racing?
As someone who tours, I ask the same question. While I have never raced, I’ve watched enough racing live and on TV to figure out that you cannot pull over and chill whenever you want to if you want to stay competitive.
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Old 05-18-20, 06:34 PM
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Originally Posted by shelbyfv View Post
Same old, same old. Their bike cost more, they must be an ass. I've learned that what we in the US call "reverse snobbery" is called "inverse snobbery" in the UK. Still pondering which term is most descriptive.
I'm quite an Anglophile, but I think the US has this one. I think of inverse like this: the inverse of 3 is 1/3. Inverse snobbery would then be 1/snobbery, or just a fraction that gets closer and closer to zero the higher the original snobbery value. In a sense, "inverse snobbery" would be humility, or egalitarianism, or something else.

I've run into arrogant cyclists, but to be honest I don't think the cycling world of real people is overrepresented in this regard than the general population. For every dude who shows up to a group ride extremely pleased with himself because he imagines that his bike is more expensive than everyone else's, there are probably hundreds of folks who do the exact same with their cars, their gated housing communities, their cameras, their gaming computers, or any other hobby or money-pit we all like to gather around and empty our wallets. Most of the folks who I've met in group rides are very friendly, and I've enjoyed riding with them a lot. I can hardly wait for the Covid to fade away so the bike shops can start doing their group rides again.

He who is without sin, let him first cast a stone. Confession time: if I'm honest, I do sometimes feel a twinge of smugness when I blow by non-cyclist folks out toodling along on their random bikes. And by "random bikes" I just mean what most non-cyclists would think of as a bike. I wave to them all, of course, and they wave back.
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Old 05-18-20, 06:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Robert A View Post
Everybody on a bicycle is my best friend because I may need their help, and would willingly give them mine, at some point in the ride. The only ones that are not my friends are groups that present health risks by riding in tight pacelines.
Shots fired! Shots fired!
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Old 05-18-20, 06:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Sy Reene View Post
I'd also like to know. I'd get it if he said 'commuters' instead of touring though.
You are probably right. Either way, the bike is a means to an end....
Anyway, I was stirring the pot to see if I got a bite from some serious riders...
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Ladies and Gents we have a winner

Too funny

Originally Posted by Tacoenthusiast View Post
Show us on the doll where the mean arrogant cyclist touched you
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Seems that on average cyclists are overly concerned about how they are perceived. I suppose it natural given the exposure.
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Old 05-18-20, 08:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Tacoenthusiast View Post
Show us on the doll where the mean arrogant cyclist touched you
Pics or it didn't happen....

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Originally Posted by Digger Goreman View Post
I wave/nod/generally smile at everyone on a bike. Yeah, the lycra-clad, carbon riding athletes rarely return the favor.... I just figure they are "in the zone", and just keep pedaling.
I am lycra-clad and very friendly. I won't even bully you for sounding like a out of touch journalist writing a story about lycra-clad cyclists. "Lycra-clad" is almost as smearing as "Lance wanna be". But I'll forgive you for the bit about carbon fiber, we all know what jerks those folks are.

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So this thread was on my mind today as i went out for my ride. Had a bunch of VO2 max intervals and then a long steady Z3 effort. In the recovery between the VO2 efforts, I saw a cyclist coming the other way. I nodded at him. The nod was returned. We both went our separate ways.

It wasnt as rewarding an experience as I thought it would be - frankly, I feel let down.
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