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Old 06-11-20, 12:53 PM
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Shimano 600 8 speed rear hub - Possible to swap out hub body for 7 speed?

As the title states, I have an older Shimano 600 tri color 8 speed rear hub. I have 7 speed group laying around and don't want to mess with spacers too much. Would it be possible to swap out the current 8 speed hub body for a 7 speed hub body (also Shimano) that I have laying around from that era?

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It's one 4.5mm spacer, so that's not a big deal.
A 7 speed "should" swap.
If your current FH is removable with a 10mm hex wrench......

You'll want to make up the difference in spacing between the 2 FH bodies by adding an equal amount to the NDS. Somewhere around 3-4mm.
Dish the wheel to center. This is EASILY done. Just tighten the NDS spokes evenly until you get it. probably less than 1 turn, so go in smaller steps.
This step results in a more symmetrical, stronger wheel.
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It's a LOT easier to just toss a spacer on before installing the cassette. What kind of shifters do you have? If they are downtube, you can run a 7-speed cassette "plus one" extra cog in the back. The shifter will accommodate this if you set the derailer correctly.

With that said, if you want a slightly stronger rear wheel, it's easy to swap bodies. It's best if you have the right-side cone/washer/locknut that goes with the body because they're not all the same and might not play well if you try to mix and match.
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Got it. thank you for the responses. I have down tube 7 speed shifters (older Shimano ones). The hub isn't laced to a wheel, so I don't think i have to worry about dishing the wheel properly after a swap.

Probably easier just throwing a spacer on OR running an 8 speed cassette and seeing if the 7 speed downtube shifter can work with this... below is a pic of the downtube shifters I have. Also the derailleur. https://imgur.com/a/9grA0UQ

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Originally Posted by 996
I have down tube 7 speed shifters (older Shimano ones). The hub isn't laced to a wheel, so I don't think i have to worry about dishing the wheel properly after a swap.

Probably easier just throwing a spacer on OR running an 8 speed cassette and seeing if the 7 speed downtube shifter can work with this...
Just keep in mind that you won't be able to remove the body until the hub is built into a wheel. You'll need the leverage of the wheel to loosen the 10mm Allen bolt. Unless you stick it in a vise or something, but it's easy to put major gouges in it that way.

An 8-speed cassette may work ok but the spacing is slightly different and the indexing might run rough at the ends of the cassette. If you want perfect shifting, just get a 7-speed cassette and add an extra cog at the back. Or space an 8-speed cassette with 7-speed spacers. It's best to measure the spacers and make sure the extra thickness is coming from them and not the cogs. But mixing Shimano/Shimano is usually safe.
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Appreciate the input. Noted and will probably stick with an 8 speed and maybe find some new shifters which shouldn't be too hard.

Thanks!
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Just to back up a bit. Does your 8 speed hub fit your bike? Going from 7 speed to 8 speed requires a dropout width of 130mm. Depending on the bike, you can probably spread the frame (rear triangle). This typically not a big deal.

Bit all honesty, messing with $5 4.5mm spacer is going to so much easier than messing with finding 8 speed downtube shifters. Sunrace are pure junk, for $35 you can try Microshift, $50+ will get you a Shimano, and $100 will get you a set of tri-color shifters.

It’s your call.

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8-speed downtube shifters are somewhat rare but still find-able. By the time 8-speed came around most bikes were switching to STI (brifters.)

One of the other workarounds is probably easier, but do what you wish.
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Originally Posted by 996
Appreciate the input. Noted and will probably stick with an 8 speed and maybe find some new shifters which shouldn't be too hard.

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If you're going to get new shifters, it'd be an opportune time to make the jump to 9 speed. More cog combinations available.
Shifters & cassette are only slightly more than 8 speed.
You will need a 9 speed chain.
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If it was my bike, and I had a 7-speed free hub body, and I wanted to keep the bike 7-speed for any reason, I'd swap out the free hub bodies and readjust the axle spacers and dish. It just looks more elegant.
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