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Tubeless truth for road tires = big risk on bumps

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Old 04-21-19, 08:00 AM
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Originally Posted by ThermionicScott
It would need to be taken with a grain of salt, given the rebranding by team sponsors:
I'm talking about a list of the actual tires used, not claimed to be used. The G-One Speed is pretty easy to identify.
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Originally Posted by noodle soup
Yes it does happen occasionally, but it's nowhere near as common as you claim.
Whatever.. I volunteer at a high-volume big-city bike Co-op. I spent an hour yesterday trying to salvage clincher wheel in which the rim hooks were damaged from an obvious impact. I see this stuff every week. If the wheel hadn't been high-end, it would have been chopped up to salvage the hub.

We have a couple of 50-pound bins of decent hubs (mostly rears) in which the rim was toast.

Regardless - back to the point: the only credible scenario for a pro rider being on clinchers/tubeless in actual race conditions is that their tire and wheel sponsors do not have tubular options. Well, the team should have picked better sponsors - but that's water under the bridge.

The sponsors should allow 'rebranding' in order to give their riders any chance of success. As long as the sponsors labels are predominantly featured, your average weekend -warrior dentist doesn't care about this stuff. Or the underlying fact that pros don't ride clinchers.
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Old 04-21-19, 01:50 PM
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Originally Posted by maartendc

In any case, you cannot draw meaningful information from this, because none of us ride 54 km of cobbles on a weekly basis.
Come and ride on some of the roads in India
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Originally Posted by Dean V
As has been pointed out, tubulars can pinch flat, just not as easily as clinchers.
I wonder if the difference in views is based on what is considered a pinch flat or not.

https://www.westernbikeworks.com/tubular-tires-article
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Originally Posted by Dave Mayer
Whatever.. I volunteer at a high-volume big-city bike Co-op. I spent an hour yesterday trying to salvage clincher wheel in which the rim hooks were damaged from an obvious impact. I see this stuff every week. If the wheel hadn't been high-end, it would have been chopped up to salvage the hub.
So only the bead hooks were damaged(no flat spot on the rim)?

I'm just not seeing this frequently these days, and I see plenty of flat-spotted wheels.
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Originally Posted by JohnJ80
Here's a great article on what it took to get carbon wheels working for riding the cobbles. Two big things - tires of proper width and proper inflation made a big difference. I would guess this was a big part of it maybe most of it presuming the "engine" was up to speed.

https://blog.silca.cc/road-to-roubai...lete-story-1-0
That link is very good. Josh Poertner writes well and always has something to say. Quite a bit more info there than in this thread.

One thing to bear in mind while reading the article is that while Poertner/Silca/Zipp is very thorough, the status quo ante in the background is chaotic and random and superstitious. I say all the time, including on this forum, don't believe your pressure gauge. Read how far they went before controlling that variable. And what the input was that made them think of it.
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Originally Posted by Dave Mayer
Whatever.. I volunteer at a high-volume big-city bike Co-op. I spent an hour yesterday trying to salvage clincher wheel in which the rim hooks were damaged from an obvious impact. I see this stuff every week. If the wheel hadn't been high-end, it would have been chopped up to salvage the hub.

We have a couple of 50-pound bins of decent hubs (mostly rears) in which the rim was toast.

Regardless - back to the point: the only credible scenario for a pro rider being on clinchers/tubeless in actual race conditions is that their tire and wheel sponsors do not have tubular options. Well, the team should have picked better sponsors - but that's water under the bridge.

The sponsors should allow 'rebranding' in order to give their riders any chance of success. As long as the sponsors labels are predominantly featured, your average weekend -warrior dentist doesn't care about this stuff. Or the underlying fact that pros don't ride clinchers.
We are talking about carbon rims here, correct ?
Been a while since Pros' have raced on Alu rims
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Originally Posted by RedBullFiXX
We are talking about carbon rims here, correct ?
Been a while since Pros' have raced on Alu rims
It's been a while since he's been on modern components.
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