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you wouldn’t actually need to do anything if you use a 120mm hub. I have a 126 conversion and it takes literally no extra effort to simply hand tighten the nuts down and take in the 3mm per side. I mean, there’s nothing wrong with dropping some cash on a couple of spacers, but it’s completely unnecessary.
I don't remember the 3mm axle spacers being serious cash.
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I did that for a while after first building up my FG conversion. It does work, but it's always nice when your hub is the same width as the dropouts, so that the wheel holds itself in place while you make adjustments and tighten the nuts.
I don't remember the 3mm axle spacers being serious cash.
I don't remember the 3mm axle spacers being serious cash.
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https://velo-orange.com/collections/...-wheelset-700c
I use velo-orange hubs myself and the rear one is nice because it has a longer axle and comes with spacers to accommodate 120mm, 126mm or 130mm frames. The threading is also a tad wider so you can stick a 1mm spacer (also included) behind the sprocket to really dial in that chain line (I have a thread about this from back when I was doing it myself that you can look at for pictures and helpful advice from guys who are much more knowlegeble than me! Its called "Is this unsafe?")
These wheels seem pretty perfect for your build if you ask me! (Unless you want black... they only come in silver)
Looking forward to seing this finished build!
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I did that for a while after first building up my FG conversion. It does work, but it's always nice when your hub is the same width as the dropouts, so that the wheel holds itself in place while you make adjustments and tighten the nuts.
I don't remember the 3mm axle spacers being serious cash.
I don't remember the 3mm axle spacers being serious cash.
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I didn’t mention it because I was trying to save anyone any money. I just thought it important that for those who may not know, to clarify that you don’t have to have them. I never have an issue with the wheel moving freely, unless I want it to. Depends on how far you back the nuts off. I also use modified dropout adjustment screws as set stops. so setting my wheel back and adjusting tension is so simple, I could no joke, probably do it with my eyes closed. But that’s the difference right there. Every time I set my wheel back in, it’s not a ‘start from scratch’ scenario for chain tension. My wheel slots back in the same position, and I have the same tension, every time. I just have to remember to set my crank position beforehand. For my setup, having spacers would literally only change how far I back the nuts off.
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Here's a wheelset to look at if you're interested!
https://velo-orange.com/collections/...-wheelset-700c
I use velo-orange hubs myself and the rear one is nice because it has a longer axle and comes with spacers to accommodate 120mm, 126mm or 130mm frames. The threading is also a tad wider so you can stick a 1mm spacer (also included) behind the sprocket to really dial in that chain line (I have a thread about this from back when I was doing it myself that you can look at for pictures and helpful advice from guys who are much more knowlegeble than me! Its called "Is this unsafe?")
These wheels seem pretty perfect for your build if you ask me! (Unless you want black... they only come in silver)
Looking forward to seing this finished build!
https://velo-orange.com/collections/...-wheelset-700c
I use velo-orange hubs myself and the rear one is nice because it has a longer axle and comes with spacers to accommodate 120mm, 126mm or 130mm frames. The threading is also a tad wider so you can stick a 1mm spacer (also included) behind the sprocket to really dial in that chain line (I have a thread about this from back when I was doing it myself that you can look at for pictures and helpful advice from guys who are much more knowlegeble than me! Its called "Is this unsafe?")
These wheels seem pretty perfect for your build if you ask me! (Unless you want black... they only come in silver)
Looking forward to seing this finished build!
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i do like those wheels, they look really nice. unfortunately they look to be sold out. also, i think i want a little deeper v. i'm gonna try to go for 38-50mm. i just like the look of them for some reason. i'll probably go with silver. bikesdirect has a set of track wheels for $69. i may just get those for now and upgrade later if they suck.
When I first started riding I bought an absolute crap blue 6ku wheelset because I liked the color and the deep v style. Honestly, as heavy as they were, they were still wheels and they did what they were supposed to do. They got me through like 2 years without much maintenance and still acted like a wheel. I was pretty stoked on the look of them too for a while but as I entered the upgrades rabbit hole my tastes started to favor higher quality and durability over flashyness. (Part of me still kinda likes the colorful deep v look though)
Here's my two cents, get what will make you ride. If you want to save some money and upgrade later that's totally fine, you don't always have to get the most legit parts first, especially of youre still kinda feeling out the hobby. If you think deep vs are cool, get them because you are gonna ride a bike you think is cool more than a bike youre lukewarm about. However, if you are the type of guy with money to burn (hey some people have it and I dont judge) I'd recommend something better than a $70 wheelset, that's pretty bottom of the barrel. You will notice the difference, even just starting out, between a bargain basement wheelset and one that costs like 300 or 400 bucks.
otherwise, keep us updated. And I want to see some pictures when this is finished!
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you're right. i think i'm trying to rush putting it together. patience is a virtue they say...
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anyone got any suggestions for a lower-end but solid wheelset for my build?
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You need to clarify “lower end”. Are you talking price? Quality? Both? What kind of general budget are you looking at? Are there any specific wants or needs from your wheels? Kind of hard to offer help with such a general description that will mean different things to different people. Typically anything under say $300 is going to be a machine built wheel, which isn’t bad but certainly could be ‘lower end’. I would at all honesty, avoid anything less than $200. Save the extra pennies and buy a better wheelset from the start. The wabi ‘sub-15’ I believe is now like $350 for the set, but it’s still highly recommended. There are a number of good choices at velomine.com as well in the 2-300 dollar category. Aesthetics matter, yes, but so does performance. There already a bunch of good advice about this in the thread. So you need to decide what you’re willing to spend first, then set out personal desires regarding looks, performance, specs, etc. Then from there try and find a wheel set that best matches those in the price range you’ve set.
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I guess my question is more what are you getting when you bump from a $70 set vs $200 set vs $300+? I really would prefer to stay closer to under $200, but I also want a quality wheelset. I don't want to just get a cheap set just to be done, but I also don't want to have to save my pennies until next year to get a wheelset. I'm also not opposed to buying used, so I really just would like some recommendations if going with a used better wheelset would be better than a brand new entry level wheelset.
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I guess my question is more what are you getting when you bump from a $70 set vs $200 set vs $300+? I really would prefer to stay closer to under $200, but I also want a quality wheelset. I don't want to just get a cheap set just to be done, but I also don't want to have to save my pennies until next year to get a wheelset. I'm also not opposed to buying used, so I really just would like some recommendations if going with a used better wheelset would be better than a brand new entry level wheelset.
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Better quality components. At that price range, any wheel you buy new, is undoubtedly going to be machine built. Which means the overall build quality of the wheel, not its conponenta, will likely be the same. If you’re looking to spend less than 200, simply put, you likely won’t get Avery good wheelset. The lower you go, the more likely you are to end up with issues. Hub service issues, basic qc issues with the individual parts, and you’ll probably find that they not only not offer a good ride quality, but could actually give bad ride quality. None of this is an absolute guarantee, it’s just that the cheaper you go, the more the wheel was specifically built to be, well, cheap, if you get my drift. There’s nothing wrong with wanting and affordable wheelset, but your wheels are extremely important. Not something you want to take a chance on, in my opinion. Could end up costing you way more in the long run, and not just monetarily. I, and I think most other cyclists would agree that typically anything below 200 bucks, is likely not worth it. That just my advice as a fellow cyclist, offering his time. What you decide to buy, is your choice. Makes no difference to me.
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start here. There’s several dozen wheelsets of all types within the 2-300 range. Everything they offer are reliable components. You literally couldn’t go wrong with any of them. Find a set that interests you in that range and go for it. Velomine is a trustworthy company.
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Something that I'm surprised I haven't seen mentioned yet (Probably because very few people here came from the BMX world), is a half link chain.
You should be fine as there are TONS of conversion kits out on the market now, but one thing that might let you get that perfect gearing, or spare you from buying some crazy derailluer tensioner looking thing is a halflink chain.
It will allow you to pick a chain length at the half link instead of the full link.
One half link:
https://www.amazon.com/KMC-Half-Link.../dp/B00288K96C
Full chain:
https://www.danscomp.com/products/46...k_2_Chain.html
You should be fine as there are TONS of conversion kits out on the market now, but one thing that might let you get that perfect gearing, or spare you from buying some crazy derailluer tensioner looking thing is a halflink chain.
It will allow you to pick a chain length at the half link instead of the full link.
One half link:
https://www.amazon.com/KMC-Half-Link.../dp/B00288K96C
Full chain:
https://www.danscomp.com/products/46...k_2_Chain.html
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Something that I'm surprised I haven't seen mentioned yet (Probably because very few people here came from the BMX world), is a half link chain.
You should be fine as there are TONS of conversion kits out on the market now, but one thing that might let you get that perfect gearing, or spare you from buying some crazy derailluer tensioner looking thing is a halflink chain.
It will allow you to pick a chain length at the half link instead of the full link.
One half link:
https://www.amazon.com/KMC-Half-Link.../dp/B00288K96C
Full chain:
https://www.danscomp.com/products/46...k_2_Chain.html
You should be fine as there are TONS of conversion kits out on the market now, but one thing that might let you get that perfect gearing, or spare you from buying some crazy derailluer tensioner looking thing is a halflink chain.
It will allow you to pick a chain length at the half link instead of the full link.
One half link:
https://www.amazon.com/KMC-Half-Link.../dp/B00288K96C
Full chain:
https://www.danscomp.com/products/46...k_2_Chain.html
Velocity A23 Track Bike Fixed Gear Singlespeed Wheels DT Comp [741227] - $189.00 Velomine.com : Worldwide Bicycle Shop, fixed gear track bike wheelsets campagnolo super record vintage bike
Having said that...
I'm not sure that somebody's discussion about what may or may not make some budget wheelsets worth more or less than others tells you anything unless you tell him, or us, what you need besides "best for the money"...
I looked back in this thread, and maybe I missed it - but I didn't see any mention whether you need, or want, or can fit - wide or narrow rims and rubber on whatever it is you are are doing? Or whether you want lighter and racier, or sturdier wheels?
Have fun - good luck...
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Hahaha - so for $33.95 you get a lifetime supply of $3-4 halflinks
55 bucks less & 100+g claimed less weight:
Velocity A23 Track Bike Fixed Gear Singlespeed Wheels DT Comp [741227] - $189.00 Velomine.com : Worldwide Bicycle Shop, fixed gear track bike wheelsets campagnolo super record vintage bike
Having said that...
I'm not sure that somebody's discussion about what may or may not make some budget wheelsets worth more or less than others tells you anything unless you tell him, or us, what you need besides "best for the money"...
I looked back in this thread, and maybe I missed it - but I didn't see any mention whether you need, or want, or can fit - wide or narrow rims and rubber on whatever it is you are are doing? Or whether you want lighter and racier, or sturdier wheels?
Have fun - good luck...
55 bucks less & 100+g claimed less weight:
Velocity A23 Track Bike Fixed Gear Singlespeed Wheels DT Comp [741227] - $189.00 Velomine.com : Worldwide Bicycle Shop, fixed gear track bike wheelsets campagnolo super record vintage bike
Having said that...
I'm not sure that somebody's discussion about what may or may not make some budget wheelsets worth more or less than others tells you anything unless you tell him, or us, what you need besides "best for the money"...
I looked back in this thread, and maybe I missed it - but I didn't see any mention whether you need, or want, or can fit - wide or narrow rims and rubber on whatever it is you are are doing? Or whether you want lighter and racier, or sturdier wheels?
Have fun - good luck...
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I finally got to take my bike to a co-op and a guy with some more know-how than myself fixed my chainline. I'm now at 42mm for the chainline! Still haven't bought my wheels yet! Come on, go on sale already!
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I just finished building by ss. It's not a fixie but I got heaps of experience.
Frame is the most important. Choose your frame wisely, it needs to have horizontal dropouts instead of vertical. It's doable with vertical dropouts but it's going to cost you more.
Tyre clearance: What sort of commute you do every day? What tyre size will fit into the frame?
What is your goal when building a fixie? What is your commute route as you will need to choose the right gear ratio for your bike
Chain: Do you consider using standard chain or half-link chain?
Budget: How much do you want to spend on the project, what parts and tools you have available?
Frame is the most important. Choose your frame wisely, it needs to have horizontal dropouts instead of vertical. It's doable with vertical dropouts but it's going to cost you more.
Tyre clearance: What sort of commute you do every day? What tyre size will fit into the frame?
What is your goal when building a fixie? What is your commute route as you will need to choose the right gear ratio for your bike
Chain: Do you consider using standard chain or half-link chain?
Budget: How much do you want to spend on the project, what parts and tools you have available?
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Hi guys, fun thread.
Thought I might be able to contribute to the discussion as I am currently working on three different fixie builds.
The first is a kilo tt frame I am building up for the ball and chain as a replacement for her regular commuter which is in need of some attention. Paid a hundred bucks for the frame and fork, brand new with cheesey stock headset installed. NOS iro cranks were seventy five dollars. FSA Gimondi bottom bracket was twenty. New Oury grips were fifteen dollars.
Stem, handlebars, brakes and brake levers, as well as pedals came out of the parts bin.
The wheelset is an Alex r500 pulled off of a Windsor Clockwork I paid 189 or 169 bucks for some years back. It seemed a good deal for the price, so I thought, “why not?”
I now can tell you why not but that’d be a whole ‘nother thread lol.
Might need to buy new housing and cables. But think that’s it so far. Will update as I go, though.
Thought I might be able to contribute to the discussion as I am currently working on three different fixie builds.
The first is a kilo tt frame I am building up for the ball and chain as a replacement for her regular commuter which is in need of some attention. Paid a hundred bucks for the frame and fork, brand new with cheesey stock headset installed. NOS iro cranks were seventy five dollars. FSA Gimondi bottom bracket was twenty. New Oury grips were fifteen dollars.
Stem, handlebars, brakes and brake levers, as well as pedals came out of the parts bin.
The wheelset is an Alex r500 pulled off of a Windsor Clockwork I paid 189 or 169 bucks for some years back. It seemed a good deal for the price, so I thought, “why not?”
I now can tell you why not but that’d be a whole ‘nother thread lol.
Might need to buy new housing and cables. But think that’s it so far. Will update as I go, though.
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The other two builds will revolve around a bare frame KHS winner and a bare frame Volume cutter.
I’m actually thinking of having them painted or powder-coated. The paint job on both are wrecked. Will also update.
I’m actually thinking of having them painted or powder-coated. The paint job on both are wrecked. Will also update.
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