Genesis Folding Bike
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I haven't added any accessories to my bike and haven't utilized any tools. I do have an old Brooks I'll throw on at some point and just bought a bell water bottle cage at wally world. Is been extremely convenient, and were I trying to make a political statement I would have bought a vintage made in USA bike. As it is I just needed something that fits in my small car and can tour my cheap bicycle trailer bought from a worse corporation, amazon.
I'm never implied that one must make a political statement. I'm simply saying that all our purchases carry consequences in our lives whether you see it or not. I'm just a firm believer in spending my money in the most local way possible and NOT financially supporting corporations that do far more harm than good. This is why I don't own a car.
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I think the point you are missing is that many people are suggesting you simply wait and be patient. So many of us want what we want right here right now. I needed/wanted a bike very badly but I saved for several months to buy the bike I wanted. In the end, I compromised and didn't spend $2,000 but I did get something I really still love and requires very little maintenance. I'm starting to think this bike will outlast me. It's true that shopping local can cost more, but there are times when I will pay a little more to be able to shop in a brick and mortar store and be able to hold the item. Sometimes, the price is just so much better online. Sometimes, there's only one place to get whatever I need. I try my best to shop local but I'm not unreasonable.
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BAM!
This bike is awesome and I didn't wait three months to buy it, nor did I overspend or compromise. Instead, I purchased it online and picked it up at my convenience at the store. All the mods I did to this bike were at my discretion and I did so because it's a HOBBY, same as my riding and my framebuilding.
I could spend thousands on a bike but I bought this instead. So what? It's my choice and my money. Period.
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Atombikes,
Looks great. I never did find a rack made for a 20" wheel bike so
just put one on that I had on hand. A little high but not really a problem.
I also let a little air out of my 100psi tires, much better.
I may even put the squishy originals back on and run them ragged.
Thanks again for a great thread!!
Looks great. I never did find a rack made for a 20" wheel bike so
just put one on that I had on hand. A little high but not really a problem.
I also let a little air out of my 100psi tires, much better.
I may even put the squishy originals back on and run them ragged.
Thanks again for a great thread!!
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Flew the Genesis to Savannah Georgia. Went over the cobble stones without any major mechanical issue. All the hinges are tight. The bike did not collapse as i rode. Steer did flex fore/aft. The gears also jumped but once i found the "sweet" setting, it stayed. I caught a lot of people attention too. Overall a functional bike that does its job and fits the bill.
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Flew the Genesis to Savannah Georgia. Went over the cobble stones without any major mechanical issue. All the hinges are tight. The bike did not collapse as i rode. Steer did flex fore/aft. The gears also jumped but once i found the "sweet" setting, it stayed. I caught a lot of people attention too. Overall a functional bike that does its job and fits the bill.
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change the bottom bracket, freewheel to 7speed and rear derailer...smoother and faster ride for a total of ding..ding..ding! $ 66.50(the price is right!). the parts remove are all working well...it's just me having fun upgrading it. no luck on the fd...need to buy the litepro mu fd adapter.
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Flew the Genesis to Savannah Georgia. Went over the cobble stones without any major mechanical issue. All the hinges are tight. The bike did not collapse as i rode. Steer did flex fore/aft. The gears also jumped but once i found the "sweet" setting, it stayed. I caught a lot of people attention too. Overall a functional bike that does its job and fits the bill.
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change the bottom bracket, freewheel to 7speed and rear derailer...smoother and faster ride for a total of ding..ding..ding! $ 66.50(the price is right!). the parts remove are all working well...it's just me having fun upgrading it. no luck on the fd...need to buy the litepro mu fd adapter.
I currently have the 52/42 chainrings on my bike (no front derailleur so always on the 52) and I thought that if I had to downshift to the 42 I could do it manually, but I must say I haven't found a hill yet on my regular rides that require that downshift. So I may remove the 42 and move the 52 to the inboard position to clean up the chainline a little.
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Nice job! I'm interested in what 7 speed shifter you chose? Also, was it necessary to change the derailler? Wouldn't the original one have worked? Did the original chain need replacing? It looks to me that it would be narrow enuf. I'm getting set to order parts. I already replaced the freewheel with the TZ20, but it would be nice boost the top speed a little. I'm not ready to muck with the chain ring yet, like Atom. Baby steps.
Nice job! I'm interested in what 7 speed shifter you chose? Also, was it necessary to change the derailler? Wouldn't the original one have worked? Did the original chain need replacing? It looks to me that it would be narrow enuf. I'm getting set to order parts. I already replaced the freewheel with the TZ20, but it would be nice boost the top speed a little. I'm not ready to muck with the chain ring yet, like Atom. Baby steps.
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By the way, since I'm a newbie here I must thank Atombikes and all of the other contributors for a great thread. I have thoroughly enjoyed following along. Of course I had to have my own Genesis. It arrived in good shape. After a few tweaks it was rolling. Since then I have replaced the seat, grips and freewheel. I added a rear rack. Now, what next?
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Nice job! I'm interested in what 7 speed shifter you chose? Also, was it necessary to change the derailler? Wouldn't the original one have worked? Did the original chain need replacing? It looks to me that it would be narrow enuf. I'm getting set to order parts. I already replaced the freewheel with the TZ20, but it would be nice boost the top speed a little. I'm not ready to muck with the chain ring yet, like Atom. Baby steps.
Nice job! I'm interested in what 7 speed shifter you chose? Also, was it necessary to change the derailler? Wouldn't the original one have worked? Did the original chain need replacing? It looks to me that it would be narrow enuf. I'm getting set to order parts. I already replaced the freewheel with the TZ20, but it would be nice boost the top speed a little. I'm not ready to muck with the chain ring yet, like Atom. Baby steps.
The pic I posted above is using the stock KMC chain, but I did remove a link and use a "Missing Link" in it's place to be able to easily remove and replace the chain. In it's current state, the chain is probably 2 or so links too short with the 52t chainring, but no one's complaining (everything still works fine). The same chain will work fine with 6,7, or 8 spds. Moving to a 9 spd cluster would mean changing out the chain because of the width of the spacing between cogs.
If you want to replace the rear derailleur, splitting the chain will make that job WAY easier.
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thanks for the info. I thought I could increase top speed by going to the hg37 freewheel, like Roving70. It has the 13 tooth cog. I believe the existing derailleur should adjust for the 7 speed freewheel. I would need a 7 speed shifter.
thanks for the info. I thought I could increase top speed by going to the hg37 freewheel, like Roving70. It has the 13 tooth cog. I believe the existing derailleur should adjust for the 7 speed freewheel. I would need a 7 speed shifter.
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Hey Olderfart
I ordered the same freewheel as you and added the Shimano Acera SL-M310 Rapid Fire Shifter, Right (Black, 7-Speed).
I have an extra (better) derailleur in my bone pile I may put on.
I may be older than you so you best stand upwind.
I ordered the same freewheel as you and added the Shimano Acera SL-M310 Rapid Fire Shifter, Right (Black, 7-Speed).
I have an extra (better) derailleur in my bone pile I may put on.
I may be older than you so you best stand upwind.
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Sounds like a good plan. I haven't ordered anything yet, so may wait to see how yours goes if you are close. I jumped too soon on the shimano 6 speed freewheel, then immediately thought I should have gone for the 7 speed with the 13 tooth wheel. All part of the fun, I guess. I usually only try to go downwind. Oh well.
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Roving70
Nice job! I'm interested in what 7 speed shifter you chose? Also, was it necessary to change the derailler? Wouldn't the original one have worked? Did the original chain need replacing? It looks to me that it would be narrow enuf. I'm getting set to order parts. I already replaced the freewheel with the TZ20, but it would be nice boost the top speed a little. I'm not ready to muck with the chain ring yet, like Atom. Baby steps.
Nice job! I'm interested in what 7 speed shifter you chose? Also, was it necessary to change the derailler? Wouldn't the original one have worked? Did the original chain need replacing? It looks to me that it would be narrow enuf. I'm getting set to order parts. I already replaced the freewheel with the TZ20, but it would be nice boost the top speed a little. I'm not ready to muck with the chain ring yet, like Atom. Baby steps.
i returned my 6 speed shimano tourney sl-tx30 and replace it with 7 speed. old derailer works fine but long cage and wont match my cranks. did not change the chain just split it like atombike said...it'll be easier to replace the derailer.
enjoy upgrading!
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just got avid fr5 brake lever 2 finger and slim line kool stop bpad with it.
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atombikes...Can you post a picture of the bike folded with the bullhorns? Just ordered this bike yesterday and I'm full of ideas. Thanks!
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BAM!
This bike is awesome and I didn't wait three months to buy it, nor did I overspend or compromise. Instead, I purchased it online and picked it up at my convenience at the store. All the mods I did to this bike were at my discretion and I did so because it's a HOBBY, same as my riding and my framebuilding.
I could spend thousands on a bike but I bought this instead. So what? It's my choice and my money. Period.
By the way, I respect the whole framebuilding thing. I work in auto body, heavy collision, restoration, rust repair, etc so I respect a fellow welder. If I had access to a TIG, I'd probably give framebuilding a shot, myself. Maybe walmart will have a Lincoln Electric or Miller TIG on sale soon.
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jimboach...please stop. It's one to voice concerns about the mechanical aspect of this bike, but please leave your political views out of this thread. Discuss that in the off topic forums. This is about the bike.
And I thought atombikes had posted my folded picture request...no, it was a post about politics Great bike atom and thanks for sharing and helping me make my purchase.
And I thought atombikes had posted my folded picture request...no, it was a post about politics Great bike atom and thanks for sharing and helping me make my purchase.
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If I rotate the handlebars I can leave them in the stem. But it's not a quick fold because the handlebar clamp is not quick release.
I think using ergo bar ends would yield the same type of hand position as the bullhorns, without the interference. I will probably swap out the bullhorns this winter.
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