Crit bike build
02-18-21, 04:10 PM
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easy answer is just go to the bike shop and bike the newest most expensive "aero" bike they have , then swap out all the parts for even more expensive parts , eat ice cream every night before bed so you hve some vegan excuses when you loose , sell the bike on facebook for half its price 2 years later after you have a kid and realize racing is stupid 
BUT on a serious note you need post more info like your budget , you ability level , skill level , racing cat , before i can consult you on building a bike , there are many options and actions you might have to take before you can get a clear answer that wont be fully opinionated
BUT on a serious note you need post more info like your budget , you ability level , skill level , racing cat , before i can consult you on building a bike , there are many options and actions you might have to take before you can get a clear answer that wont be fully opinionated
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"a little to the north, at the base of Grouse Mountain on Redonda Drive in North Vancouver, rain gauges fill much higher. The North Vancouver weather station averages 2522 mm (99 inches)"
^from one of the top results I found on google. I live 2 minutes from the base of Grouse Mountain. Additionally, I was talking about major cities (ie where most of the crit races would occur). That small town that you found on Vancouver Island would not host a crit. I apologize if these stats offend you. I brought up that stat for a talking point in contribution to the general theme of the thread (crit bike build and a number of people are discussing rim vs disc brake). I do not want to dive into a rabbit hole of geographical weather so I will redact those incorrect statistics.
^from one of the top results I found on google. I live 2 minutes from the base of Grouse Mountain. Additionally, I was talking about major cities (ie where most of the crit races would occur). That small town that you found on Vancouver Island would not host a crit. I apologize if these stats offend you. I brought up that stat for a talking point in contribution to the general theme of the thread (crit bike build and a number of people are discussing rim vs disc brake). I do not want to dive into a rabbit hole of geographical weather so I will redact those incorrect statistics.
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02-18-21, 06:19 PM
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I'm not claiming to be an expert, which is why I redacted my post since those rainfall numbers seemed to offend you. I didn't want to post any misleading info, hence the edit. ... I don't know why you're still going on about this since I explained why I took out information from my earlier post.
By the way, at least what google says (since I'm not claiming to have vetted facts), Bellingham gets 35 inches of rain every year... around 1/3 of what North Vancouver gets. Again, if this quick google search triggers you, I'll once again edit my post so there is no false information being posted.
02-18-21, 09:10 PM
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By the way, at least what google says (since I'm not claiming to have vetted facts), Bellingham gets 35 inches of rain every year... around 1/3 of what North Vancouver gets. Again, if this quick google search triggers you, I'll once again edit my post so there is no false information being posted.
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My aluminum crit bike build
My son has been racing crits 8+ years. He outgrew his Pinarello FP5 with Di2 and rim brakes he's been using for years. I looked at a lot of options for a long time, he needed a new bike last season but last season was COVID cancelled, and I finally settled on a CAAD12.
My criteria was internal Di2 routing since his FP5 was external and I did not want to go external on anything new, rim brakes was a must have since he already has a bunch of nice wheels for training and racing and I want to be able to move wheels between other bikes with rim brakes, and a carbon frame.
I was willing to do a frame only since nearly everything on the FP5 would move to the new bike. I was originally looking at some very expensive carbon frames, but I decided to save a ton of money and consider the Allez Sprint or a CAAD 12/13. Rim brakes and no ETA in sight for special orders put me squarely in the CAAD12 and a LBS actually had a new 2018 CAAD12 105 rim brake bike sitting on the rack. The only things from that 105 build that will be there when I am done will be the seat post clamp and the steering tube cap. I'll be moving the 11 speed 105 to another bike that has the FP5's 10 speed Dura Ace on it and move the Dura Ace back to the FP5 to make it the original groupset again.
I was originally looking at a new Pinarello F10 frame discounted to $3k from $6k or so, but the size he needed sold out before I decided to pull the trigger. As for crashing and breaking carbon, for his FP5 I bought a spare FP5 carbon fork and seat post just in case, but he never broke them. As for the carbon frame, one of his team sponsors is a carbon repair specialist, so I wasn't too worried about that on the FP5. An F10 getting cracked, that might be a different story.
After some wheeling and dealing and selling a CAAD12 I bought from a guy that was a size too big, my out of pocket on the brand new CAAD12 was about $850. It will have Zipp 404s, Ultegra Di2 and some other upgrades when it is finished and should be a great crit bike. If he crashes it, I'm pretty sure I can get the frame replaced under warranty since I know the owner of the bike shop and I'm sure he would be a good advocate for me. Since the Di2 I'm using is Ultegra 6870, I won't hit the UCI 15lb mark but this crit bike build should be in the 16.x lbs range when it is finished. There are many CAAD12 builds in the sub 13lb range. The right aluminum bike can be as stiff and light as all but the very best carbon bikes. In many cases lighter and stiffer.
As for shifting in crits, based on the data I've logged over the years, 800-1000 shifts per hour is not uncommon depending on the course. I love being able to see what gears he was in at any point in a race or ride. This was especially helpful when he was younger. Di2+D-Fly for the win!
Anyway, that is what I did for a new aluminum crit bike. The main reason for the CAAD12 vs CAAD13 in my case was the rim brakes. The CAAD13s in discs are not hard to get right now. New rim brake anything is like spotting a unicorn these days.
My criteria was internal Di2 routing since his FP5 was external and I did not want to go external on anything new, rim brakes was a must have since he already has a bunch of nice wheels for training and racing and I want to be able to move wheels between other bikes with rim brakes, and a carbon frame.
I was willing to do a frame only since nearly everything on the FP5 would move to the new bike. I was originally looking at some very expensive carbon frames, but I decided to save a ton of money and consider the Allez Sprint or a CAAD 12/13. Rim brakes and no ETA in sight for special orders put me squarely in the CAAD12 and a LBS actually had a new 2018 CAAD12 105 rim brake bike sitting on the rack. The only things from that 105 build that will be there when I am done will be the seat post clamp and the steering tube cap. I'll be moving the 11 speed 105 to another bike that has the FP5's 10 speed Dura Ace on it and move the Dura Ace back to the FP5 to make it the original groupset again.
I was originally looking at a new Pinarello F10 frame discounted to $3k from $6k or so, but the size he needed sold out before I decided to pull the trigger. As for crashing and breaking carbon, for his FP5 I bought a spare FP5 carbon fork and seat post just in case, but he never broke them. As for the carbon frame, one of his team sponsors is a carbon repair specialist, so I wasn't too worried about that on the FP5. An F10 getting cracked, that might be a different story.
After some wheeling and dealing and selling a CAAD12 I bought from a guy that was a size too big, my out of pocket on the brand new CAAD12 was about $850. It will have Zipp 404s, Ultegra Di2 and some other upgrades when it is finished and should be a great crit bike. If he crashes it, I'm pretty sure I can get the frame replaced under warranty since I know the owner of the bike shop and I'm sure he would be a good advocate for me. Since the Di2 I'm using is Ultegra 6870, I won't hit the UCI 15lb mark but this crit bike build should be in the 16.x lbs range when it is finished. There are many CAAD12 builds in the sub 13lb range. The right aluminum bike can be as stiff and light as all but the very best carbon bikes. In many cases lighter and stiffer.
As for shifting in crits, based on the data I've logged over the years, 800-1000 shifts per hour is not uncommon depending on the course. I love being able to see what gears he was in at any point in a race or ride. This was especially helpful when he was younger. Di2+D-Fly for the win!
Anyway, that is what I did for a new aluminum crit bike. The main reason for the CAAD12 vs CAAD13 in my case was the rim brakes. The CAAD13s in discs are not hard to get right now. New rim brake anything is like spotting a unicorn these days.
