Limmer Boot Grease on a Brooks
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Me neither, and I completely agree about boots versus bikes. My point is, not everything good for boots or outdoors leather garments is necessarily good for bike saddles. However they are not all fatally harmful to the saddle, for some purposes.
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Road Fan , Selle Anatomica doesn't recommend using anything to soften their leather. They sell an acrylic waterproofing to apply to the underside of their saddles, and IIRC, the tops are meant to shed water.
I used Obenauf's Heavy Duty LP for my boots on a few Brooks saddles with good results. Just SA sealant on those saddles.
I used Obenauf's Heavy Duty LP for my boots on a few Brooks saddles with good results. Just SA sealant on those saddles.
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Agreed on the formulation, that being said, and I agree that as with many things you proceed at your own peril.
From my own process which is using an alternative very sparingly that has so far proven out, the Langlitz dressing has had great results across the board, old, really old, used and very used, new and almost new have done just fine so far and I also contend that it has sped up break-in as well, again with no ill effects or sagging so far. Some of them are 7, 8, 9 years along so I am convinced that they will be fine.
Agreed on the formulation, that being said, and I agree that as with many things you proceed at your own peril.
From my own process which is using an alternative very sparingly that has so far proven out, the Langlitz dressing has had great results across the board, old, really old, used and very used, new and almost new have done just fine so far and I also contend that it has sped up break-in as well, again with no ill effects or sagging so far. Some of them are 7, 8, 9 years along so I am convinced that they will be fine.
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Agreed on the formulation, that being said, and I agree that as with many things you proceed at your own peril.
From my own process which is using an alternative very sparingly that has so far proven out, the Langlitz dressing has had great results across the board, old, really old, used and very used, new and almost new have done just fine so far and I also contend that it has sped up break-in as well, again with no ill effects or sagging so far. Some of them are 7, 8, 9 years along so I am convinced that they will be fine.
Agreed on the formulation, that being said, and I agree that as with many things you proceed at your own peril.
From my own process which is using an alternative very sparingly that has so far proven out, the Langlitz dressing has had great results across the board, old, really old, used and very used, new and almost new have done just fine so far and I also contend that it has sped up break-in as well, again with no ill effects or sagging so far. Some of them are 7, 8, 9 years along so I am convinced that they will be fine.
I agree, if they still are fine they will most likely go on for a while. My best Brooksies from the past have been lost in silly selling and theft in a few cases, but I have a decent set of saddles now.
The idea of proceeding at your own peril seems to be built in at Brooks, as well, since they always recommend using their dressing sparingly. So slathering on a Brooks is proceeding on one's own peril, as you say. My own metrics are: the saddle needs oil more than it needs silicone, I don't want it too smelly, and I'd rather depend on a shower cap and fenders for heavy rain protection, than on saddle goop that goes beyond the thin coating level. So, Snowseal has too much of a chemical smell, old Proofide (I think this is age rather than composition) can smell rancid, Feibing's Snow-Proof Weatherproofing has some mink oil but feels and smells good, and while Obenauf's is suggested for some measure of water proofing, it feels and looks good on some objects I've applied it to. I've been Proofiding toe straps for years, and have used Obe. on them this year. We'll see, as you say!
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I've once used some boot wax on the BOTTOM of my Brooks Pro (NikWax?). I have used only Proofhide on the top. The saddle is 45 years old and is better than new.
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Also agree on the toe straps, as well as preserving them, it helps them thread through pedals with sharp castings, especially MKS Sylvan's that are my go to.
Also agree on the toe straps, as well as preserving them, it helps them thread through pedals with sharp castings, especially MKS Sylvan's that are my go to.
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Also agree on the toe straps, as well as preserving them, it helps them thread through pedals with sharp castings, especially MKS Sylvan's that are my go to.
Also agree on the toe straps, as well as preserving them, it helps them thread through pedals with sharp castings, especially MKS Sylvan's that are my go to.
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I used SnoSeal on my brand new B17 and it's sagged far more than I believe it should have-
I've been unhappy with every application of SnoSeal that I've used it on.
I've been unhappy with every application of SnoSeal that I've used it on.
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They are one of the best values in cycling IMO, great price, looks and tough as nails.
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Just to stir the pot, there's always Lexol. It has enabled me to resuscitate a couple of hopelessly dry old saddles.
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Have you thought about asking the manufacturer of the leather treatment you want to use if it is:
(a) appropriate to use on a wet moulded, tensioned vegetable-tanned bike saddle and
(b) if they are prepared to guarantee that their leather treatment will perform to the same standard as Brooks Proofide?
I would be most interested in the answers you receive.
(a) appropriate to use on a wet moulded, tensioned vegetable-tanned bike saddle and
(b) if they are prepared to guarantee that their leather treatment will perform to the same standard as Brooks Proofide?
I would be most interested in the answers you receive.