Road tubeless?
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Road tubeless?
Hi everyone-
I have a 2016 Domane and it has the Bontrager Paradigm comp TRL wheels. I can just barely get a Hutchison tire on it (running it with tube) so I'm curious A) is there a fast tire that is easier to get on these rims or B) should I just run them tubeless? Anyhow, I would love to know if anyone has any recommendations.
Thank you!
I have a 2016 Domane and it has the Bontrager Paradigm comp TRL wheels. I can just barely get a Hutchison tire on it (running it with tube) so I'm curious A) is there a fast tire that is easier to get on these rims or B) should I just run them tubeless? Anyhow, I would love to know if anyone has any recommendations.
Thank you!
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Getting a tire on easily is more a matter of learning to do it. You have to keep the bead of the side you are working on down in the spoke channel when things start to get tough briefly. Or you can get some well built tire levers I've never had to use. Others will be along soon with recommendations for them.
Even with tubeless, you will have the effort of getting the tire on the rim if you do ever have to change them. And I've heard that they are even worse for getting on. So possibly that won't bode well for changing them easily roadside and in a hurry to get back with the group. But I've no experience with real tubeless tires on a real tubeless rim.
Even with tubeless, you will have the effort of getting the tire on the rim if you do ever have to change them. And I've heard that they are even worse for getting on. So possibly that won't bode well for changing them easily roadside and in a hurry to get back with the group. But I've no experience with real tubeless tires on a real tubeless rim.
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I will tell you this: I have Hutchinson Fusion5 tires on 3 of my bikes, 2 of them are tube type and one has Fusion5 All season tubeless. The tubeless wheels were by far the easiest to mount. Mind you, I have been running road tubeless for getting close to 10 years, so I know all the tricks to mounting them and my wheels (Campagnolo Shamal 2Way fit) are amongst the easiest to work with
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Some tubeless-ready rims are so tight that a conventional rim strip puts them over the top on tightness - using a tubeless rim strip like Stan's might help.
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Getting a tire on easily is more a matter of learning to do it. You have to keep the bead of the side you are working on down in the spoke channel when things start to get tough briefly. Or you can get some well built tire levers I've never had to use. Others will be along soon with recommendations for them.
Even with tubeless, you will have the effort of getting the tire on the rim if you do ever have to change them. And I've heard that they are even worse for getting on. So possibly that won't bode well for changing them easily roadside and in a hurry to get back with the group. But I've no experience with real tubeless tires on a real tubeless rim.
Even with tubeless, you will have the effort of getting the tire on the rim if you do ever have to change them. And I've heard that they are even worse for getting on. So possibly that won't bode well for changing them easily roadside and in a hurry to get back with the group. But I've no experience with real tubeless tires on a real tubeless rim.
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Tubeless feels a little bit nicer than a tube, but it's not as dramatic as some press makes it out to be. You can potentially run lower pressures with much less risk of pinch flatting. Depending on what causes punctures in your area, sealant is likely to seal nearly all punctures you experience. If you get a large puncture it can be messy and you still need a tube. Sealant needs to be added every 4-6 months or so, although you can do this simply by removing the valve core and squirting some in.
I'm a fan, but I tend not to recommend it for people who let their bikes sit for longer periods of time and who dislike maintenance. One of the major advantages for me (aside from literally never having a non-sealing flat on any tubeless setup, knock on wood) is that you can run much lighter construction tires and rely more on the sealant to seal punctures.
I would never recommend buying road tubeless tires and using them regularly without a tube because they are harder to install and remove. This will be a bit better without the tube but the tolerances need to be fairly tight and honestly fitment between various tires and rims is still poorer than it should be, so some combinations can really suck.
I'm a fan, but I tend not to recommend it for people who let their bikes sit for longer periods of time and who dislike maintenance. One of the major advantages for me (aside from literally never having a non-sealing flat on any tubeless setup, knock on wood) is that you can run much lighter construction tires and rely more on the sealant to seal punctures.
I would never recommend buying road tubeless tires and using them regularly without a tube because they are harder to install and remove. This will be a bit better without the tube but the tolerances need to be fairly tight and honestly fitment between various tires and rims is still poorer than it should be, so some combinations can really suck.
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I will tell you this: I have Hutchinson Fusion5 tires on 3 of my bikes, 2 of them are tube type and one has Fusion5 All season tubeless. The tubeless wheels were by far the easiest to mount. Mind you, I have been running road tubeless for getting close to 10 years, so I know all the tricks to mounting them and my wheels (Campagnolo Shamal 2Way fit) are amongst the easiest to work with
I have been using the Fusion 5's for quite a while. I have them on two bikes now, both clinchers. I have no issues getting them mounted on the rims, or getting them off. I have used 25 and 28mm's. They are one of my favorite tires.
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