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Old 09-14-19, 11:17 AM
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Just to test the concept, I took a coping saw to whatever it is that old clip-boards are made of using a paper template I made from the original inserts. I took them on a 10 mile test ride this morning and it is a dramatic difference. I don't know how long they'll last, but it was a cheap experiment. I can look for some sturdier material now that I know it works the way I want it to. Thanks for all of the suggestions!
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I would personally try something like this
https://www.performancehealth.com/mi...nting-material

Mold it to the inside of your shoe or an insole you like the shape of.
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Originally Posted by terrymorse
How much are you willing to spend on a stiff insole?

If the answer is “plenty”, then consider the Solestar BLK. Carbon fiber from heel to toe.

Review here
Wow. More than I ever knew I wanted to know about insoles. Thanks for the link.
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A new stiff insole will significantly change how they feel. Like a totally different pair of shoes. For that reason -since they will feel like a different pair of shoes- I think it is time to move on to some actual new shoes. Those Avocets had a good run.

Loads of cool options out there that have a C&V vibe.
Holdsworth, Vittoria, Dromarti, Giro, SVB, DeMarchi, Quocc, Bontrager....
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i use this.

Ccut with sharp scissors. Works perfectly.
https://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0?m...2F264341918904
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You should have bought new shoes Decades ago. Come on man...
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Originally Posted by Manny66
You should have bought new shoes Decades ago. Come on man...
Buy?... New?... With money?!
I'm glad I didn't ask if anyone knew of a seamstress who might be able to repair my "classic" Rhode Gear gloves!!
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Old 09-15-19, 04:26 PM
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I'm another one who doesn't like to chuck something just because it's old when spending a few dollars will give it a lot more life. I'm thinking about getting some 1/8" ( 3mm) marine plywood to make a couple of stiffeners for some shoes I have.

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Old School

An old but good way of solving this problem is with thin sheets of metal. (Cut to size.) I would then wrap it in Duct Tape to prevent the metal insoles from cutting into the shoes.
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Update

Originally Posted by Bianchi84
Just to test the concept, I took a coping saw to whatever it is that old clip-boards are made of using a paper template I made from the original inserts. I took them on a 10 mile test ride this morning and it is a dramatic difference. I don't know how long they'll last, but it was a cheap experiment. I can look for some sturdier material now that I know it works the way I want it to. Thanks for all of the suggestions!
The right-side of my make-shift inserts finally failed yesterday; it cracked where I'm guessing the most pressure and flex occurs at the ball of the foot. It lasted for almost a year. Was it worth the effort? No cramping for a year (maybe coincidence?) - worth it. Longevity of solution - probably not.

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I wonder if gatorfoam might work? It can be cut to shape and is fairly rigid and durable stuff.
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Originally Posted by Bianchi84
The right-side of my make-shift inserts finally failed yesterday; it cracked where I'm guessing the most pressure and flex occurs at the ball of the foot. It lasted for almost a year. Was it worth the effort? No cramping for a year (maybe coincidence?) - worth it. Longevity of solution - probably not.


Ive finally run into Your situation, but my old SIDI Titaniums arent available anywhere. Looks like Im going to take a page out of your book and do something similar, Im going to try Aluminum sheet though.
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Old 07-19-20, 05:26 PM
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O wear custom hard orthotics in my street shoes. I have an old pair that I use in my cycling shoes.

seems like an expensive solution, to get a new pair just for cycling.
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1/8" marine grade plywood cut to shape and varnished?

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Anyone try the folowing:
moldable plastic= https://www.thibra.com/product-info.html
carbon= https://www.amazon.com/dp/B088KM5GY9...2s9dHJ1ZQ&th=1

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Ball peen hammer.
Thin sheet metal.
Tin snips.

1. Have someone beat the bottom of your feet with the hammer. No longer a riding issue.
2. Cut and beat the sheet metal to fit, once your feet heal from the hammering.
3. Now that a couple of weeks have passed, try the sheet metal insoles.
4. Once the sheet metal insoles finally cut their way through the sides of the shoes....
5. ….you can go shoe shopping. My ex thought it was a regular activity.
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I love those shoes! Used them for commuting and the mountain bike. They improve your horsepower with the steel shank, can get a bit uncomfortable if doing a ten mile hike so always carry a pump and a tube. And maybe a patch kit.

this is what i had. they had grooves on the bottom that would grab your cages. nowadays everything has cleat holes which i do not need.
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Originally Posted by cjenrick
I love those shoes! Used them for commuting and the mountain bike. They improve your horsepower with the steel shank, can get a bit uncomfortable if doing a ten mile hike so always carry a pump and a tube. And maybe a patch kit.

this is what i had. they had grooves on the bottom that would grab your cages. nowadays everything has cleat holes which i do not need.
I really don't see anyone making shoes like the Avocets any more; that's why they'll probably have to pry them from my cold, dead feet!
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Originally Posted by cjenrick

this is what i had. they had grooves on the bottom that would grab your cages. nowadays everything has cleat holes which i do not need.
The grooves are good if your foot is square to the pedal. I prefer the bottom of the Nike Velo & the Specialized 3400 where there is a void and the pedal cage would go against the back edge of the void.

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