To paint or not to paint... the frame.
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To paint or not to paint... the frame.
Bought 2 bikes for $20 that were in rough shape (because I was bored). One is a 1992 nishiki fusion mountain bike. The other a 1996 Jamis Earth Cruiser. I have the Jamis bike about done. Was able to save all of the original components except I had to get a new front wheel, and the obvious new chain, cables, etc. The frame is in good shape, I cleaned everything up etc.
Problem is that nothing is shiny anymore, I don't want to spend time polishing. The frame paint was an ugly green, and now a dull ugly green with a few small spots it got rusted to metal. I'm fine leaving it, the paint isn't that bad. I did put a coat of clear lacquer on that helped. My wife says to paint it, but I don't want to lose the decals (which are almost gone, but still legible).
Should I paint it or not?
Problem is that nothing is shiny anymore, I don't want to spend time polishing. The frame paint was an ugly green, and now a dull ugly green with a few small spots it got rusted to metal. I'm fine leaving it, the paint isn't that bad. I did put a coat of clear lacquer on that helped. My wife says to paint it, but I don't want to lose the decals (which are almost gone, but still legible).
Should I paint it or not?
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I would strip and paint -- but with a caveat .
I do not recall the thread but one of the posters on here built up a bike for his teenage daughter . HE refurbished everything, but the original paint on the bike was nothing special and for that matter neither was the bike. The guy went off on painting it kind of a Miami Vice 80'
s theme with bright colors, stenciled off floral patterns, and I believe a checkerboard section
HE took a sturdy and functional , but kinda boring, machine and made it a bit more fun and had a blast doing it with his daughter
You could do the same with your wife and this bike if she is up to a project with you
I do not recall the thread but one of the posters on here built up a bike for his teenage daughter . HE refurbished everything, but the original paint on the bike was nothing special and for that matter neither was the bike. The guy went off on painting it kind of a Miami Vice 80'
s theme with bright colors, stenciled off floral patterns, and I believe a checkerboard section
HE took a sturdy and functional , but kinda boring, machine and made it a bit more fun and had a blast doing it with his daughter
You could do the same with your wife and this bike if she is up to a project with you
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I would strip and paint -- but with a caveat .
I do not recall the thread but one of the posters on here built up a bike for his teenage daughter . HE refurbished everything, but the original paint on the bike was nothing special and for that matter neither was the bike. The guy went off on painting it kind of a Miami Vice 80'
s theme with bright colors, stenciled off floral patterns, and I believe a checkerboard section
HE took a sturdy and functional , but kinda boring, machine and made it a bit more fun and had a blast doing it with his daughter
You could do the same with your wife and this bike if she is up to a project with you
I do not recall the thread but one of the posters on here built up a bike for his teenage daughter . HE refurbished everything, but the original paint on the bike was nothing special and for that matter neither was the bike. The guy went off on painting it kind of a Miami Vice 80'
s theme with bright colors, stenciled off floral patterns, and I believe a checkerboard section
HE took a sturdy and functional , but kinda boring, machine and made it a bit more fun and had a blast doing it with his daughter
You could do the same with your wife and this bike if she is up to a project with you
Thanks!
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I never paint, EVER. I will touch up, I will treat (remove) rust. Nope, not going to paint.
Now if I had the urge to paint, I would get it powder coated instead.
Doing painting right is A LOT of work, and not cheap either.
Now if I had the urge to paint, I would get it powder coated instead.
Doing painting right is A LOT of work, and not cheap either.
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Painting the frame/fork set on a vintage bicycle costs plenty, if you do it yourself and a heck of a lot more if you have the bike painted. And either method, usually lowers the value of the bike. This frame/fork set is hand painted, with rattle cans, by me and the cost to get to this stage of painting is, roughly...
color blue x 2 cans = $32.00 CND
clear top coat x 2 cans = $32.00
primer x 2 cans = $32.00
W&D sand paper = $10.00
Total is $106.00 CND (roughly $76.00 US) for paint just to get to here...
Now, if art is to be part of the repaint work, tack on another $50.00 to $100.00. This sheet set me back $126.00 CND ($01.00 US) bringing the total for paint up to about $232.00 CND ($166.00 US) ...
Now, ask yourself if the new paint and art will blend in with the component group and the patina it sports. Fresh paint next to rusty this and that does not look good.
And, can you do the work yourself? If not, add lots and lots of bucks to the cost. And, if you do do the paint work yourself, it will take a long time to harden, depending on the type of paint. The blue and gold frame above has been drying for a year (usually I leave a job to dry for three months before assembling the components to the frame).
So, think carefully before you sand away and spray away. Just an old fella's opinion, of course.
color blue x 2 cans = $32.00 CND
clear top coat x 2 cans = $32.00
primer x 2 cans = $32.00
W&D sand paper = $10.00
Total is $106.00 CND (roughly $76.00 US) for paint just to get to here...
Now, if art is to be part of the repaint work, tack on another $50.00 to $100.00. This sheet set me back $126.00 CND ($01.00 US) bringing the total for paint up to about $232.00 CND ($166.00 US) ...
Now, ask yourself if the new paint and art will blend in with the component group and the patina it sports. Fresh paint next to rusty this and that does not look good.
And, can you do the work yourself? If not, add lots and lots of bucks to the cost. And, if you do do the paint work yourself, it will take a long time to harden, depending on the type of paint. The blue and gold frame above has been drying for a year (usually I leave a job to dry for three months before assembling the components to the frame).
So, think carefully before you sand away and spray away. Just an old fella's opinion, of course.
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Painting the frame/fork set on a vintage bicycle costs plenty, if you do it yourself and a heck of a lot more if you have the bike painted. And either method, usually lowers the value of the bike. This frame/fork set is hand painted, with rattle cans, by me and the cost to get to this stage of painting is, roughly...
color blue x 2 cans = $32.00 CND
clear top coat x 2 cans = $32.00
primer x 2 cans = $32.00
W&D sand paper = $10.00
Total is $106.00 CND (roughly $76.00 US) for paint just to get to here...
Now, if art is to be part of the repaint work, tack on another $50.00 to $100.00. This sheet set me back $126.00 CND ($01.00 US) bringing the total for paint up to about $232.00 CND ($166.00 US) ...
Now, ask yourself if the new paint and art will blend in with the component group and the patina it sports. Fresh paint next to rusty this and that does not look good.
And, can you do the work yourself? If not, add lots and lots of bucks to the cost. And, if you do do the paint work yourself, it will take a long time to harden, depending on the type of paint. The blue and gold frame above has been drying for a year (usually I leave a job to dry for three months before assembling the components to the frame).
So, think carefully before you sand away and spray away. Just an old fella's opinion, of course.
color blue x 2 cans = $32.00 CND
clear top coat x 2 cans = $32.00
primer x 2 cans = $32.00
W&D sand paper = $10.00
Total is $106.00 CND (roughly $76.00 US) for paint just to get to here...
Now, if art is to be part of the repaint work, tack on another $50.00 to $100.00. This sheet set me back $126.00 CND ($01.00 US) bringing the total for paint up to about $232.00 CND ($166.00 US) ...
Now, ask yourself if the new paint and art will blend in with the component group and the patina it sports. Fresh paint next to rusty this and that does not look good.
And, can you do the work yourself? If not, add lots and lots of bucks to the cost. And, if you do do the paint work yourself, it will take a long time to harden, depending on the type of paint. The blue and gold frame above has been drying for a year (usually I leave a job to dry for three months before assembling the components to the frame).
So, think carefully before you sand away and spray away. Just an old fella's opinion, of course.
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Do you thin out your paint? Use a primer?
I've rattle canned a few frames, seems wasteful and messy doing coat after coat, plus the end result looks awful in most cases when viewed up close. Would like to use a brush next time. Can be done indoors, cheaper, no waste, not as much of a mess.
I've rattle canned a few frames, seems wasteful and messy doing coat after coat, plus the end result looks awful in most cases when viewed up close. Would like to use a brush next time. Can be done indoors, cheaper, no waste, not as much of a mess.
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Do you thin out your paint? Use a primer?
I've rattle canned a few frames, seems wasteful and messy doing coat after coat, plus the end result looks awful in most cases when viewed up close. Would like to use a brush next time. Can be done indoors, cheaper, no waste, not as much of a mess.
I've rattle canned a few frames, seems wasteful and messy doing coat after coat, plus the end result looks awful in most cases when viewed up close. Would like to use a brush next time. Can be done indoors, cheaper, no waste, not as much of a mess.
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Hey Randy, what type of paint did you use?
At first, to help with the mess and cost issues, I brushed my work on. Sadly, primer, and color and a second color do not all come in one can. My costs, then would be about ten dollars a can for each, plus a good brush, plus thinner for cleaning the good brush - point is, the costs add up and more so with rattle can.
Then I tried spray Rustoleum or similar products, in rattle can. Not all that happy with the lengthy drying tim So, for the Rabeneick, I tried Canadian Tire's Duplicolor in lacquer.
What you see is the color coats (blue and gold) all covered with several coats, thin coats, of clear. The clear covers the chrome lugs and socks, also. I will finish it offm with art, when I get back to the cottage and then, after a bit of drying time (lacquer sets up pretty fast, compared to the other stuff I used), I will carefully sand and rub the final clear coat with rubbing compound. The results should be pretty good. My big issue now, is...
How does an old man, with poor eyesight, line the chrome lugs and sock tops..? Here is where the paint job is at now. The paint is not rubbed out so looks a bit dull. I did a test rub a small hard to see area out and was most impressed. Hope this works out...
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...I've discovered that painting bikes is a good way to cut back on the number of bikes I buy.
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One thing to be wary of when using Duplicolor, is batch color inconsistency.
I had painstakingly stripped every speck of paint off the frame of my Paramount, and went through 2 cans and countless coats of their yellow, and got a run right at the end of the last can, so sanded down the run and bought another can of the exact same color. Color was WAY off the third can, it was a completely different shade, kind of a milky yellow. Weeks of work ruined, and I had to start all over again.
Perfect match??? So what if it isn't? I get my $6.99 back? Never again, but YMMV.
I had painstakingly stripped every speck of paint off the frame of my Paramount, and went through 2 cans and countless coats of their yellow, and got a run right at the end of the last can, so sanded down the run and bought another can of the exact same color. Color was WAY off the third can, it was a completely different shade, kind of a milky yellow. Weeks of work ruined, and I had to start all over again.
Perfect match??? So what if it isn't? I get my $6.99 back? Never again, but YMMV.
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One thing to be wary of when using Duplicolor, is batch color inconsistency.
Leaving Winnipeg tomorrow morning at the crack of whenever Mrs. Me says so. With luck, will be hauling the bikes out of the cottage, just before dark tomorrow evening.
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