Motobecane Frame Lock Pick?
04-21-20, 06:40 AM
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Motobecane Frame Lock Pick?
I managed to get this Euro-spec Motobecane tourer/commuter last week, and I've got it stripped down to the bare frameset. One thing keeping me from going further is the rear wheel frame lock.
Anyone got experience picking these? Or perhaps a source for a key? I could slice it up with a cutoff wheel to remove it, but I really don't want to do that as it's a unique frame feature I'd like to preserve.
Anyone got experience picking these? Or perhaps a source for a key? I could slice it up with a cutoff wheel to remove it, but I really don't want to do that as it's a unique frame feature I'd like to preserve.
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04-21-20, 10:23 AM
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I found this but not sure is is same lock...... Locksmith..... and maybe some more pics? also this link maybe more for mopeds
https://www.tapatalk.com/groups/mabe...a8KSWTMszJhfM8
https://www.tapatalk.com/groups/mabe...a8KSWTMszJhfM8
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04-21-20, 11:06 AM
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I found this but not sure is is same lock...... Locksmith..... and maybe some more pics? also this link maybe more for mopeds
https://www.tapatalk.com/groups/mabe...a8KSWTMszJhfM8
https://www.tapatalk.com/groups/mabe...a8KSWTMszJhfM8
I may just have to take the frame to a locksmith if/when restrictions ease.
Or cut it off.
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Any decent locksmith could pop that in 2 seconds...
04-21-20, 12:49 PM
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Hope so! I'll probably wait until the shutdown is over before doing anything rash.
Wow that first one looks like a match, but yowza he's awfully proud of it! 
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I believe someone on BikeForums had a link to this guy.
LockPickingLawer
It got me down a rabbit hole of watching him and his buddies picking some challenging locks. Maybe this and the picture of the key from the link by Vintage_Cyclist Cyclist may be enough to get this picked.
Remember those combination locks that had 4 rings of 10 numbers. They were terrible. This doesn't look much better as far as security.
Oh, nice bike. Are you going to repaint, touch up the paint or leave it alone?
I don't blame you for wanting to keep it. I would too, even though it is not much protection. And the prices for these old locks is outrageous. Maybe someone is paying the price.
LockPickingLawer
It got me down a rabbit hole of watching him and his buddies picking some challenging locks. Maybe this and the picture of the key from the link by Vintage_Cyclist Cyclist may be enough to get this picked.
Remember those combination locks that had 4 rings of 10 numbers. They were terrible. This doesn't look much better as far as security.
Oh, nice bike. Are you going to repaint, touch up the paint or leave it alone?
I don't blame you for wanting to keep it. I would too, even though it is not much protection. And the prices for these old locks is outrageous. Maybe someone is paying the price.
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...if it kept the bike from getting stolen for forty years, might be worth it
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There's probably a key number on the bottom of the lock. There are some keys being sold on eBay (mainly in Europe). Needle in a haystack shot though.
From the above eBay listing
Hebie or Velosolex might have been the source of the lock and contracted by Motobecane. You might even be able to source a replacement lock on the web. Perhaps even replace the outer shell of a replacement lock with your Motobecane branded one.
From the above eBay listing
Hebie or Velosolex might have been the source of the lock and contracted by Motobecane. You might even be able to source a replacement lock on the web. Perhaps even replace the outer shell of a replacement lock with your Motobecane branded one.
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04-22-20, 09:02 AM
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I believe someone on BikeForums had a link to this guy.
LockPickingLawer
It got me down a rabbit hole of watching him and his buddies picking some challenging locks. Maybe this and the picture of the key from the link by Vintage_Cyclist Cyclist may be enough to get this picked.
Remember those combination locks that had 4 rings of 10 numbers. They were terrible. This doesn't look much better as far as security.
Oh, nice bike. Are you going to repaint, touch up the paint or leave it alone?
I don't blame you for wanting to keep it. I would too, even though it is not much protection. And the prices for these old locks is outrageous. Maybe someone is paying the price.
LockPickingLawer
It got me down a rabbit hole of watching him and his buddies picking some challenging locks. Maybe this and the picture of the key from the link by Vintage_Cyclist Cyclist may be enough to get this picked.
Remember those combination locks that had 4 rings of 10 numbers. They were terrible. This doesn't look much better as far as security.
Oh, nice bike. Are you going to repaint, touch up the paint or leave it alone?
I don't blame you for wanting to keep it. I would too, even though it is not much protection. And the prices for these old locks is outrageous. Maybe someone is paying the price.
There's probably a key number on the bottom of the lock. There are some keys being sold on eBay (mainly in Europe). Needle in a haystack shot though.
From the above eBay listing
Hebie or Velosolex might have been the source of the lock and contracted by Motobecane. You might even be able to source a replacement lock on the web. Perhaps even replace the outer shell of a replacement lock with your Motobecane branded one.
From the above eBay listing
Hebie or Velosolex might have been the source of the lock and contracted by Motobecane. You might even be able to source a replacement lock on the web. Perhaps even replace the outer shell of a replacement lock with your Motobecane branded one.
The biggest problem is that the lock mounting screw head is currently covered by the bolt, so removal is stymied unless it's unlocked.
EDIT: After looking more closely at the photo provided by Vintage_Cyclist, it appears the key number may actually be exposed on the underside of the protruding lock slide. I'll have to flip the frame over later to get a better look.
I should probably clarify that worst-case I can cut the small right-side portion of the slide off the lock with a small cutoff wheel, exposing the mounting screw so I can remove the lock body from the frame. I have no intention of cutting off the frame mounting boss for the lock.
My plan is to eventually powdercoat the frame in a color that closely resembles the original. Although lower-tier quality wise, it's an interesting touring frame that deserves resurrection. If only it could speak to share the travels and adventures it facilitated. Somebody along the way appreciated it enough to make some pricey upgrades!
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