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Thinking of doing the unthinkable - getting rid of a 1 month old CAAD 10

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Old 04-01-11, 12:45 PM
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Thinking of doing the unthinkable - getting rid of a 1 month old CAAD 10

I have ridden this CAAD 10 on the trainer for a few hours and on the road for about 80 miles and have noticed an issue. Curious if anyone else has this problem.

My thigh hits the cable and cable stop on the top tube. (I might have noticed this if I had taken a long test ride or something, but the opportunity wasn't there.) I've never had this issue on any other bike. It looks as though the cable stop (if that is the correct phrase) is further out to the side than on other bikes I have had. Has anyone else noticed this? I find it very annoying. I noticed it because my thigh seemed to be making impact with the top tube at the top of the pedal stroke, and upon further review, it is hitting the cable stop and occasionally the cable itself. I just can't past it.

Has anyone else encountered this issue?

When I bought the bike the salesman told me that if I didn't like it I could just bring it back and he would give me a refund. I am going down that route now. If they don't, I will probably be putting it up for sale here, on E-bay or on CL.
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Old 04-01-11, 12:46 PM
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Sounds like a fit issue. Change the saddle, saddle height, crank arm length, etc. That should never be an issue.
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Wait, did I just get April Fooled?
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Originally Posted by Accordion
Sounds like a fit issue. Change the saddle, saddle height, crank arm length, etc. That should never be an issue.
After buying it I actually got a fitting on it from someone else. This is post-fitting. I just don't think this bike and I were made for each other.
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Old 04-01-11, 12:53 PM
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Wait, did I just get April Fooled?
Nope, strange as it sounds.
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That sounds very odd. I would try playing around with your fit. You don't want to F up a good fit, but I'm thinking something sounds a bit off.

One thought is increase your Q factor (the width between your feet) This is as easy as sliding your cleats inward on your shoes. This should make youe knees track wider.

Another thought is to look at the fore aft position of your saddle. Perhaps you need to be further back? Also look and see if you seat height is correct.
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Take it to the dealer and compare it's position to other CAAD10 frames. Maybe you have one that has that boss out of position?
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Originally Posted by merlinextraligh
That sounds very odd. I would try playing around with your fit. You don't want to F up a good fit, but I'm thinking something sounds a bit off.

One thought is increase your Q factor (the width between your feet) This is as easy as sliding your cleats inward on your shoes. This should make youe knees track wider.

Another thought is to look at the fore aft position of your saddle. Perhaps you need to be further back? Also look and see if you seat height is correct.
Everything on the fit works. In fact, it is the same fit as I have on other bikes. It's really just odd. It might come down to a question of pedaling style. I do note that all of my other bikes have had sloping top tubes, and this is really the first with one that is straight.

I think your Q factor solution might work, but why would I be interested in increasing the Q factor when the goal is generally to reduce it? Moreover, it's not like I need this bike. I bought it for a spare and there is no real reason to F with a good thing in order to get past this.

All in all I really like the bike, but this bugs me.

Maybe I should post a question about this on the Cult thread to see if anyone else has the issue...
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Originally Posted by mvnsnd
Take it to the dealer and compare it's position to other CAAD10 frames. Maybe you have one that has that boss out of position?
Maybe... good point.
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Assuming this isn't about April 1, I don't see an issue with the bike. I also have the CAAD10. If you look straight down at the top tube, you can't see the wire. This means that if you are touching the wire during pedaling, you must be rubbing off or hitting the top tube. Wire or no wire, that doesn't make sense. Try adjusting your cleats. There are also rubber O-rings on the wire to keep it away from the frame. It could be that you're touching these, in which case I would move them away from where your leg is closest to the frame.

PS: You could also test ride a couple of other CAAD10s (same size and adjustments) to make sure that you don't have a weld problem with your bike.
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Originally Posted by Excelsius
Assuming this isn't about April 1, I don't see an issue with the bike. I also have the CAAD10. If you look straight down at the top tube, you can't see the wire. This means that if you are touching the wire during pedaling, you must be rubbing off or hitting the top tube. Wire or no wire, that doesn't make sense. Try adjusting your cleats. There are also rubber O-rings on the wire to keep it away from the frame. It could be that you're touching these, in which case I would move them away from where your leg is closest to the frame.

PS: You could also test ride a couple of other CAAD10s (same size and adjustments) to make sure that you don't have a weld problem with your bike.
When you look down the top tube, do you see the cable stop sticking out? Mine may have been put on wrong because I can see the cable stop and a decent bit of the cable itself. I had been hitting the o-ring, but moved that out of the way. As for the top tube, my legs get pretty close to it while I pedal.

I'm starting to think this may be an issue with just this one frame.
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If it's a 58, send it to me.

But seriously, what you're describing sounds like a fit issue. My knees dive in slightly when my shoes are not set up properly. With 2 shims and eSoles are added, my knees track up and down properly. I'd suggest looking for a good bike fit specialist in your area and make sure they do your feet as well.

Send the CAAD to me.
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Originally Posted by mvMcfly
If it's a 58, send it to me.

But seriously, what you're describing sounds like a fit issue. My knees dive in slightly when my shoes are not set up properly. With 2 shims and eSoles are added, my knees track up and down properly. I'd suggest looking for a good bike fit specialist in your area and make sure they do your feet as well.

Send the CAAD to me.
I'll have to take a look at that, but this would be a new fit issue that I have not had on a bike before.

It's a 56, but for the right price, I'll send it to anyone who wants it.
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Originally Posted by island rider
I think your Q factor solution might work, but why would I be interested in increasing the Q factor when the goal is generally to reduce it?
I don't know of any goal to reduce Q factor. The goal should be to get a fit that works for you. If your setup is causing your knee to track into the Top tube, something's not working.

And Q factor can be too narrow. They were developing a narrow bike for Lance Armstrong, that was going to be "the s**t that kills." But it turned out with the narrower Q factor he produced less power and that was the end of that project.
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Originally Posted by merlinextraligh
I don't know of any goal to reduce Q factor. The goal should be to get a fit that works for you. If your setup is causing your knee to track into the Top tube, something's not working.

And Q factor can be too narrow. They were developing a narrow bike for Lance Armstrong, that was going to be "the s**t that kills." But it turned out with the narrower Q factor he produced less power and that was the end of that project.
That's exactly what I was referring to. I also recall that manufacturers look to a reduced Q factor as a good thing on a bike. But, I do also recall the end of that multi-million dollar project...
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How about some pictures so we can see the offending stop and its position from the above the top tube?
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Originally Posted by island rider
I'll have to take a look at that, but this would be a new fit issue that I have not had on a bike before.

It's a 56, but for the right price, I'll send it to anyone who wants it.
I have about 12 bucks left. Sound good?

Can you post any pics of the issue? No one should be unhappy with a bf approved caad.
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You need to go on a diet???
Put a very thin spacer between pedal and crankarm . . .
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Just FYI, I had this exact same problem when I test rode a Caad10. I figured it was just because I didn't have shoes/clipless pedals on. My knees have always barely touched the top tube on my old bike, so it wouldn't surprise me if they did on the Caad as well. Glad I didn't get that bike, that would have been annoying!
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Trade it in for a used 2006 Trek Madone
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Originally Posted by island rider
When you look down the top tube, do you see the cable stop sticking out? Mine may have been put on wrong because I can see the cable stop and a decent bit of the cable itself. I had been hitting the o-ring, but moved that out of the way. As for the top tube, my legs get pretty close to it while I pedal.

I'm starting to think this may be an issue with just this one frame.
I can only see the very tips of the stops. I can't see the wire nor the O-rings. Make sure you're looking staring down - put the top tubes between your legs and align the stem with the tire/hub. I can later take a picture of it if you really need it.

Test riding other CAAD10s could be the easiest way to find out if there are any problems with the bike.
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Heres my 56. There is no way I think I could hit the cable. The stop might stick out past the top tube 1mm.
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Your thighs are too chubbeeeeee
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Originally Posted by island rider
I'll have to take a look at that, but this would be a new fit issue that I have not had on a bike before.

It's a 56, but for the right price, I'll send it to anyone who wants it.
If it's the Rival model and you're gonna be in DC anytime soon, I'll trade you my 2010 CAAD9 for it. The top tube is a good bit narrower.
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Hmmm. did Cannondale have a bad batch of bikes, or is this some sort of April fools joke? Very similar thread on the clyde forum yesterday. I still can't see how someone could have this problem, unless they have a really odd setup or some sort of knee problem.

https://www.bikeforums.net/showthread...-inside-of-leg.
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